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Old 07-30-2019, 12:55 PM   #1001
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CSEC said no to Woolley's request for an extension.

Delaying the approval will kill the deal.

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BREAKING: There will be no time extension for more public consultations. The arena vote timing was agreed upon in a tri-party agreement, the city manager has informed council #yyccc in a letter.


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Old 07-30-2019, 01:00 PM   #1002
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Indeed. Enough of Wooley's grandstanding.
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:05 PM   #1003
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this might be the first council meeting I've ever watched....
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:07 PM   #1004
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farrell not in attendance?

Never mind just late
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:10 PM   #1005
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Get this thing done already. It's been 12 years and we haven't even reached the starting line yet.
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Is it the size of the market that we're concerned about though? The Flames have no problem selling tickets last I checked and this is one of the healthiest markets in the league. Just because these places are larger (despite the fact that this stadium in London is not the "one" place to watch football), doesn't mean that we have no option other than public funding.

And this morning, hearing from Brett Wilson just makes me realise the sales pitch that we're getting here. Now the new event center is going to be worth $1.5bn in 35 years and the city gets that today for the low low price of $275m It's incredible really how generous these people are to the city. We all know, if that was actually the case and actually an amazing deal, private money dive in an invest the cash. It's not though, so they aren't.
With that kind of return Brett should finance it himself!


EDIT:That's about 5% growth over 35 years. Not great, but not bad. Unfortunately it ignores the fact that, like the Saddledome, that's not how it works.

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With that kind of return Brett should finance it himself!


EDIT:That's about 5% growth over 35 years. Not great, but not bad. Unfortunately it ignores the fact that, like the Saddledome, that's not how it works.
Yeah exactly. We know that in 35 years the team will be begging for upgrades and more public money, or a new arena again. The new place is effectively worth zero at that point. And frankly they know that...it's just a sales pitch (that has somehow worked).
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:17 PM   #1008
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Wooley now looking for a fire alarm to pull, or maybe having a fake medical incident to stall the vote even further?
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:17 PM   #1009
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wonder how she is voting...

hmmm....


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Council member Diane Colley-Urquhart is wearing a #Flames-branded fleece as council listens to a presentation on the arena deal.
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:21 PM   #1010
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wonder how she is voting...

hmmm....


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god I cant stand DCU. I wish she didn't have such a lock on the SW.

Honestly that's pretty pathetic. just vote you don't have to be a flag waver for CSEC
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:21 PM   #1011
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It's actually worse.

https://www.coppernblue.com/2015/7/2...s-rexall-place

There's no reason for us to expect much different, but maybe the Flames don't run as wild since the economy here still hasn't recovered. It's doubtful though.
A bit of a perfect storm as the building timeline coincides with the peak of McDavid hype and it didn't last long as a lot of fans didn't renew this season.
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:23 PM   #1012
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wonder how she is voting...

hmmm....


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lol
I mean, it may have been a coincidence?
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:25 PM   #1013
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lol
I mean, it may have been a coincidence?
laundry day and it just happened to be the only clean thing left in the closet?
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:25 PM   #1014
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I just discovered this, but MSG is exempt from property tax, around $40MM a year. This was put in place in 1982 when the Rangers and Knicks threatened to leave. The more you know......Vote this thing in and let's move on.
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:25 PM   #1015
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A bit of a perfect storm as the building timeline coincides with the peak of McDavid hype and it didn't last long as a lot of fans didn't renew this season.
You'll notice they haven't actually cut their prices in response. The Flames increases will start at 20% and depending on what happens the year before could grow to be just as big as Edmonton's.
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:25 PM   #1016
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How long is this thing going to go? I would have thought all this information would have been presented already?

Boring.
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:28 PM   #1017
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With that kind of return Brett should finance it himself!


EDIT:That's about 5% growth over 35 years. Not great, but not bad. Unfortunately it ignores the fact that, like the Saddledome, that's not how it works.

Brett doing a good job of putting the "twit" in Twitter at the moment.



https://twitter.com/user/status/1155846712306458624


https://twitter.com/user/status/1155865262022725633
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laundry day and it just happened to be the only clean thing left in the closet?
We've all been there!
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:31 PM   #1019
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does Brett Wilson have an ownership in Flames? Doesn't he own a % of Predators?

Land around the new arena?

Why is he yapping about this
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:31 PM   #1020
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Why do renderings have to be so ####ty? Have some clean pics of the exterior from several angles without 1000 people all over the place.
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