2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Flame On]

Has there been something from the Andersson camp? Sorry I didn't see where this turned towards more of a request by him/his people...

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Flame On

Has there been something from the Andersson camp? Sorry I didn't see where this turned towards more of a request by him/his people...

Post 9936 in the thread

[Flame On]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Post 9936 in the thread

Thanks! And also, uh oh, a Royale post, he must be as good as out the door mentally then. Really liked Ras and worry about the team really going rock bottom and then pulling a Buffalo, but oh well. More picks I guess.

[Snuffleupagus]

Dallas is having trouble signing Harley and seemingly won't budge on a long term large contract ask which they can't do.

Andersson ++ for Harley?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Calgary isn’t in a position be adding to players and bringing back 1 player.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Dallas is having trouble signing Harley and seemingly won't budge on a long term large contract ask which they can't do.

Andersson ++ for Harley?

I'm skeptical that Harley is as good as his numbers this past season suggest; he's never really had elite production in any lower level.
I can understand Dallas being hesitant to back up the truck for a long-term deal, and I definitely don't think he's worth Andersson ++

[Harry Lime]

Tampa does make the most sense considering the structure of their roster. I would do it for Huuhtanen (solid RW prospect) Duke (bulldog type C propsect) and an unprotected 2026 1st.

That leaves Tampa with their top two prospects in the system (geekie and howard), and gives them a missing 1RD.

For Calgary, those are two solid prospects who would be top 10 in the Flames system. The highlight would be the unprotected 1st. You never know what could happen on two years, and three shots at McKenna (along with the Vegas pick we own) would be huge.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

I'm skeptical that Harley is as good as his numbers this past season suggest; he's never really had elite production in any lower level.
I can understand Dallas being hesitant to back up the truck for a long-term deal, and I definitely don't think he's worth Andersson ++

Harley just turned 23, 6'4, incredible skater, very intelligent and plays in both ends of the rink. I think he'll be better than Hanifin if he's not already.

[FlamesAddiction]

For me, it would depend on what the "+" was that would be added, and whether Harley would sign a long term contract in Calgary. I wouldn't make the trade if he just insisted on being walked to early free agency.

I'm not saying to stay completely away from American players, but you need to take more precautions with them.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Calgary isn’t in a position be adding to players and bringing back 1 player.

Huh? Why not? If that one player is worth it then flames are absolutely in the position to add to a player for a better younger player. Weird take.

[dammage79]

Some believe the proper returns for vets should be only picks and prospects. No roster players regardless of age.

That's all fine and dandy to believe that, this is a rebuild, but acquiring anyone under the age of 24 should be open for conversation. They still have to ice a team and build some sort of stability moving forward.

[Paulie Walnuts]

We have played zero games since our rebuild started. We already have a lot of D prospects in the system and some really good ones.

This isn’t the time to add draft picks and likely high ones to bring in a player.

It’s the time to accumulate as many picks and prospects as possible. The only player we should even entertain trading a 1st for would be a 22 and under #1C and they don’t get traded.

[browna]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Some believe the proper returns for vets should be only picks and prospects. No roster players regardless of age.

That's all fine and dandy to believe that, this is a rebuild, but acquiring anyone under the age of 24 should be open for conversation. They still have to ice a team and build some sort of stability moving forward.

Stability, continuity and, as many here don't want to hear, assurances for the veterans.

The way the Flames treat the likes of Kadri, Coleman, Weeger, Huberdeau with the team they ice around them in the next couple years will go a long way in how well the Flames are able to attract top players in the future to play with the magic beans that hopefully will sprout.

Waiting this out for the new rink and then having said sprouted magic beans plus suddenly adding all these players that want to come to play with the beans and the energy around the new rink, doesn't just happen. If the Flames just lay down wait for that to happen and waste the next 3 seasons of those players, it will look terrible on the organization as far as trying to attract the stable veterans and leaders they need to supplement the young players.

The Flames need the veteran presence for the sprouting and eventually sprouted magic beans.

Therefore, just laying down won't happen, for now and for the future in how they have the ability to construct a well balanced roster.

Last year was the clear out year, it was the free pass given to Conroy.

This year things will have to show some improvement in some areas. Questionable goaltending may sewer the chances but if (big if) Vladar and Wolf do terrible in the first month, they as players won't last the year.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I’m sorry to show improvement? The team absolutely needs to finish bottom 5 maybe worse.

We lack and have lacked the biggest piece to a winning hockey team a #1C.

The players aren’t dumb. They saw Mangioane get dumped for a 2nd. The starting goalie shopping for a 3rd pair D and a draft picks.

It’s their job to go out and compete and they will. That’s the culture part. Go out and work hard and try. These guys are pros they will try to win, but that’s about it.

Zero reinforcements are coming to nudge them to a useless 20th place finish.

[dammage79]

Sigh. You still need to build a team around the youth you're acquiring. Nobody is saying they're building a playoff team. But if you can get good young pieces that can play now it's not going to ruin rebuilding plans. It's a part of the rebuild.

Meh, I can't really focus too much on semantics about hockey right now. Doesn't really feel important given the week we've been through.

[Paulie Walnuts]

We have no core to build around.

We also can’t trade picks and players. If it’s a lateral move sure, but not ++.

Also have to be careful handing out large contracts. That’s the team is committed to the 1 and 2 year deals.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I don’t have details yet, but there’s apparently smoke around Rasmus wanting out.
Again I cannot confirm via my source but there’s definitely significant interest.

I personally feel like he starts the year in CGY at the very least, but the rumblings indicate it could be on the horizon? Not sure personally how I feel about it, I’d assume we could get quiet a good package.

I guess if you were a vet why would you want to stay. Unless you were in your thirties making a ton of cash.

Even at that point why not do it on a good team.

[My2Cents]

I think its fine to get some under 25 (23?) players. We need a nice balance of contract statuses, including UFA's to keep flipping for picks. If we want to open that cup window at some point we need some decent longer term contracts at a lower cap hit (signed before they popped).

That being said I completely agree we are at the absolute start of the rebuild. Starting throwing as much stuff at the wall as possible and hope a few things stick. We can trade for more established players later. Get the picks, draft high potential (you can go riskier because we have so many picks) and try to get a core. Plus, soon as we are good it will be much easier to sign younger players and UFA's.

This is going to be a long and painful rebuild, so brace yourself.

Edit: But let me clarify, this rebuild should be a ton of fun. Not in winning games, but expectations should be low so stress should be low as well as fun to watch players grow before our eyes. I'm super excited for what is probably the brightest future we have had in a long long long time.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by My2Cents

I think its fine to get some under 25 (23?) players. We need a nice balance of contract statuses, including UFA's to keep flipping for picks. If we want to open that cup window at some point we need some decent longer term contracts at a lower cap hit (signed before they popped).

That being said I completely agree we are at the absolute start of the rebuild. Starting throwing as much stuff at the wall as possible and hope a few things stick. We can trade for more established players later. Get the picks, draft high potential (you can go riskier because we have so many picks) and try to get a core. Plus, soon as we are good it will be much easier to sign younger players and UFA's.

This is going to be a long and painful rebuild, so brace yourself.

Edit: But let me clarify, this rebuild should be a ton of fun. Not in winning games, but expectations should be low so stress should be low as well as fun to watch players grow before our eyes. I'm super excited for what is probably the brightest future we have had in a long long long time.

I think attendance might be low too

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Redrum

Maybe seeing Calgary isn't handing out retirement contracts like candy anymore, at least not right now. So it kinda makes sense.

Hopefully never again. Conroy has been pretty close to lights out as GM so far.

Originally Posted by activeStick

This is a massive bummer for me. Sigh.

There is nothing happening here in the next two years, so why not leverage this fantastic contract for more prospects and picks? Take a look at stemit's list, you'd be mad about any of those?