lose ≠ loose

[Frank the Tank]

Ummm, might not want all that swearing in there..^^^^^^

[SaskaBushFire]

Those comics are clutch

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by Frank the Tank

Ummm, might not want all that swearing in there..^^^^^^

Fixed

Forgot aboot that.

[photon]

Originally Posted by SaskaBushFire

"P|_|/\/C+u4t10n iz 4 c0urt3sy |)3s1g/\/3d 2 h3lp r34d3rz 2 und3rst4nd A s+0ry \/\/1th0|_|t st|_|mb!1/\/g"

By changing the letters or how it is typed, does this make the quote any less true? Does it make it any less insightful? Is it still adding to the arguement? Then what is the big deal?

Think about it.

Presentation is important. Would you write that way on a resume? Or maybe I should write all my posts in a code, and the reader has to decrypt them? The message is still the same.

It's all about context, in an irc channel typing that way is fine since only other people who really think you are 1337 to type that way will want to bother reading it.

If someone wants their ideas to be read and understood, you'd think they'd want to make it as easy as possible for the other person...

[rockstar]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Grammer this day's are going out the window. Witch is a rampant problem alot of people are making.

God I hope you were just being clever!

Originally Posted by FireFly

"Punctuation is a courtesy designed to help readers to understand a story without stumbling." By ignoring punctuation and proper grammar, you are being discourteous. You're right, it isn't real life. However by being discourteous to strangers, you're giving off a valuable first impression that cannot be retracted... and the first impression is that you're an idiot.

I should clarify. I'm not perfect either, but I try to ensure my posts are well thought out and readers can comprehend them. I don't expect perfection, I expect effort. It's not that difficult.

Damn, that's sexy.


Maybe I should contribute. My recent pet peeve, and this drives me NUTS, is when people type: definately. God, I hate this. It's DEFINITELY.

Definate? No. Infinate? No! Come on, everyone! (Well, not everyone)

[SaskaBushFire]

Originally Posted by photon

Presentation is important. Would you write that way on a resume? Or maybe I should write all my posts in a code, and the reader has to decrypt them? The message is still the same.

It's all about context, in an irc channel typing that way is fine since only other people who really think you are 1337 to type that way will want to bother reading it.

If someone wants their ideas to be read and understood, you'd think they'd want to make it as easy as possible for the other person...

What I posted is an extremity, but my point is that I don't think it really matters if someone uses perfect grammar. There are quite a few posters on this board who don't know what perfect grammar is, myself included. Trust me, you think you know but you don't. All I am saying is that if someone makes a post like "i think the oilers powerplay is struggling because there are not enough peple on that team who can propely qarterback it" Is that really a huge deal? A few spelling errors, a few grammatical errors, the overall point is there and everyone can comment.

Nobody is perfect and just remember when you start nit picking peoples posts it puts a big target on your own.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by SaskaBushFire

Idiot is a very harsh word and should not be thrown around lightly. If someone was to call me an idiot I would want proof and then I would want them to back it up.

"P|_|/\/C+u4t10n iz 4 c0urt3sy |)3s1g/\/3d 2 h3lp r34d3rz 2 und3rst4nd A s+0ry \/\/1th0|_|t st|_|mb!1/\/g"

By changing the letters or how it is typed, does this make the quote any less true? Does it make it any less insightful? Is it still adding to the arguement? Then what is the big deal?

Think about it.

I have thought about it. If it hurts my brain to try and comprehend what you've written, I won't read it. As such, it doesn't contribute anything to the argument as it all gets skipped over. In addition, there are many cases where a comma or colon placed different can change the entire meaning behind a sentence. For example;

Eats, shoots and leaves.
Eats shoots and leaves.

Four words that mean two different things because of one simple comma.

As for idiot being a harsh word; perhaps more people need to be talked to in a harsh manner. There are people all over the world who just don't realize how stupid they are. Someone needs to tell them.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by SaskaBushFire

What I posted is an extremity, but my point is that I don't think it really matters if someone uses perfect grammar. There are quite a few posters on this board who don't know what perfect grammar is, myself included. Trust me, you think you know but you don't. All I am saying is that if someone makes a post like "i think the oilers powerplay is struggling because there are not enough peple on that team who can propely qarterback it" Is that really a huge deal? A few spelling errors, a few grammatical errors, the overall point is there and everyone can comment.

Nobody is perfect and just remember when you start nit picking peoples posts it puts a big target on your own.

That example isn't bad. A couple spelling mistakes, a missed comma isn't going to kill the idea. But using the incorrect versions of words, or the apostrophe in the wrong place changes the meaning of the word entirely. When you type "peple" it is easy to knwo what is meant. But "your" is possessive - "your house" , "your car" - and "you're" is "you are" - "you're tall", "you're wrong". When someone writes "Your right" are they talking about my right to post, or should they be saying "you are right"?

If I stop reading to figure out what is really meant within the context, the idea trying to be communicated can be lost.

You are trying to get your point across; why make that difficult for me to understand?

No one is expecting perfection (I would hate to have all my posts checked), but the common repetitive errors that make posts difficult to read really should be addressed.

It isn't to make the writer's life more difficult; it is to make the communication of ideas easier.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by FireFly

I have thought about it. If it hurts my brain to try and comprehend what you've written, I won't read it. As such, it doesn't contribute anything to the argument as it all gets skipped over. In addition, there are many cases where a comma or colon placed different can change the entire meaning behind a sentence. For example;

Eats, shoots and leaves.
Eats shoots and leaves.

Four words that mean two different things because of one simple comma.

As for idiot being a harsh word; perhaps more people need to be talked to in a harsh manner. There are people all over the world who just don't realize how stupid they are. Someone needs to tell them.

I have that book but I haven't had a chance to read it yet.

[Antithesis]

I don't understand what the problem is with a bunch of people getting together discussing their grammatical pet peeves. You don't usually see people going into non-grammar related threads and harassing poor unsuspecting "just in too much of a rush to bother doing it right" people. No need to get your panties in a twist.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by FireFly

Eats, shoots and leaves.
Eats shoots and leaves.

For a moment I thought you were going to tell us the joke about the Panda bear and the hooker.

[Rubber Ducky]

I read this thread with a smile, and then went to jackfm.ca to enter the secret word of the day.

I had a good chuckle when I saw this message -

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[SaskaBushFire]

Originally Posted by FireFly

As for idiot being a harsh word; perhaps more people need to be talked to in a harsh manner. There are people all over the world who just don't realize how stupid they are. Someone needs to tell them.

This is strictly opinion based so I am done trying to argue it, I have made my point, you have made yours and we disagree. No point in beating the dead horse.

I could also say this, there are people all over the world who don't realise how impertinent they are. Someone needs to tell them.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by SaskaBushFire

This is strictly opinion based so I am done trying to argue it, I have made my point, you have made yours and we disagree. No point in beating the dead horse.

I could also say this, there are people all over the world who don't realise how impertinent they are. Someone needs to tell them.

And some of us already know. My sister tells me all the time how irritating it is.

[Shawnski]

Originally Posted by SaskaBushFire

I could also say this, there are people all over the world who don't realise how impertinent they are. Someone needs to tell them.

I am glad you realize that....



Sorry, the shot was there for the taking!

As for this thread, other than the never ending paragraphs and those posters that refuse to use capitals to start their sentences, I think most of the standard issues are covered quite well. Funny thread!

[Jayems]

Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, olny taht the frist and lsat ltteres are at the rghit pcleas. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not raed ervey lteter by ilstef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

[Superfraggle]

Originally Posted by Shawnski

I am glad you realize that....



Sorry, the shot was there for the taking!

As for this thread, other than the never ending paragraphs and those posters that refuse to use capitals to start their sentences, I think most of the standard issues are covered quite well. Funny thread!

Actually, that one was ok. It's a "z" in American, but can be either in Canadian. I once had a prof who made us put an "s" instead of a "z" pretty much any time a word ends with "ize"

http://www.englishclub.com/writing/s...an-english.htm

[SaskaBushFire]

Originally Posted by Superfraggle

Actually, that one was ok. It's a "z" in American, but can be either in Canadian. I once had a prof who made us put an "s" instead of a "z" pretty much any time a word ends with "ize"

http://www.englishclub.com/writing/s...an-english.htm

Exactly.

[Top Shelf]

Originally Posted by Burninator

More fun punctuation comics!

Another one (with swearing).

Penny-Arcade

Wow I almost died after reading that, now that is funny!

[Shawnski]

Originally Posted by Superfraggle

Actually, that one was ok. It's a "z" in American, but can be either in Canadian. I once had a prof who made us put an "s" instead of a "z" pretty much any time a word ends with "ize"

http://www.englishclub.com/writing/s...an-english.htm

OK, that one is new to this old fart of 40+ years. I never, ever, used "ise" in any word that I grew up knowing as "ize" (or "yze"), like formalize, normalize, fraternize, organize, analyze, etc.

I have noticed that both are recognized (there we go again...) in the British English dictionaries, but the "ize" is distinctly American English.

Since we are neither British nor American, I suggest we from this point forward abandon both ships and use "ixe". I realixe that this might be an issue with some people, however, in order not to jeopardixe the situation into being a full fledged CP jihad, it is a suitable compromixe.