[Rumour] LeBrun: As of right now, sounds like Andersson only wants to sign extension with VGK

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

I think we'll get better value for him at the deadline anyways, he didn't have a great year due to injury

He needs to open up to more teams. Unfortunately the Flames are too damn nice to do the right thing here and be more cutthroat. You are only going to get rental prices even from Vegas at this point so it's a lose no matter what but you can hurt the player for his future earnings. Either open up to more teams or stay home come training camp.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

So the solution is to simply trade every player this team has that is two years out from UFA no matter what? Do you think Andersson went to Conroy last summer and said he was only interested in going to Vegas? Things change daily in the NHL. Conroy has had to deal with an immense pile of #### since becoming GM, and to me is navigating through it extremely well.

It's easy to be an armchair GM with no skin in the game and criticize decisions as new information comes to light.

Why not three years? And everybody at 50% retention.

We don’t even need to have any players we’ll just be a team comprised entirely of futures.

[agulati]

Adrian Kempe needs to get on the phone to sell Andersson on LA, if the LA offer is supposed to be that good.

I wonder if our insiders have more details on the supposed offer

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

So the solution is to simply trade every player this team has that is two years out from UFA no matter what? Do you think Andersson went to Conroy last summer and said he was only interested in going to Vegas? Things change daily in the NHL. Conroy has had to deal with an immense pile of #### since becoming GM, and to me is navigating through it extremely well.

It's easy to be an armchair GM with no skin in the game and criticize decisions as new information comes to light.

Trading him last summer would've helped the team in more ways than one, and there was not much of a reason to not trade him. No hindsight needed.

[Super-Rye]

Every ****in time.

If this is true then it's time to start hard balling these guys. Trade Anderson to the team that isn't Vegas that offers the biggest package and move on.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

The return of getting him for one year versus getting him for two years is not that substantial. I don’t know why people are freaking out about this.

Extension conversation doesn’t occur with 2 years remaining.

Evidently, it is with 1. Thats the material difference, and shouldn’t be surprising after the Hanifin (many others) example.

It’s limiting suitors, and reducing return, as the negotiation becomes real, tomorrow.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Why not three years? And everybody at 50% retention.

We don’t even need to have any players we’ll just be a team comprised entirely of futures.

Every situation is unique and many people here were banging the table to trade Andersson last offseason because it was obvious that was the right move.

The team was rebuilding and indicated they weren't looking to contend.

Andersson's next contract was going to be for his 30-37 year old seasons.

Flames already had Weegar locked up long term, Brzustewicz was acquired, and they took Parekh 9th overall.

In order to maximize the return it was clear that trading him with 2 years with 50% retention would have brought back a haul.

But Flames did Flames things and didn't want to sell off more pieces after already moving Markstrom and Mangiapane.

Extension shouldn't even be part of the discussion now, just tell teams he wants to test free agency and sell him to the highest bidder that's happy to take the risk.

Dont play into his hands by being the nice guys and move him to Vegas.

[GullFoss]

The team has levers it can pull as well. For example, the Flames consider trading him to a destination he would never re-sign and force him to move twice in 12 months. It also risks him having to move before the season start, feel unsettled for an entire year, make it difficult to build relationships with players on new team, which risks him having a poor season and then having less suitors in UFA.

A threat like that - leaked through the media - gets the player to compromise because it's a scenario that's a lot less palatable than having to play his last season in Calgary and then get traded at the deadline.

[JTech780]

Let's see who misses out on Ekblad in free agency, and have them circle back on Andersson as a target.

Vegas should be a no go, they don't have anything of value. 2027 1st is about it. Not interested in Connelly, Dorofeyev isn't going to come close to putting up 35 goals again so I am not buying high on him.

Those three assets are the best Vegas can do, I think another team can beat that with no extension for Andersson.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I wouldn't mind a deal focused on future picks. Play the long game. At some point Vegas will get bad right? RIGHT?

[Red Potato Standing By]

Originally Posted by Flames_F.T.W

They should have traded Andersson last summer so we didn't end up in this situation. Did Andersson's expiring contract sneak up on them? Did they not realize he was turning 29 and no longer fit this team's age window? Did they not realize he was going to want a substantial raise? These are all things many of us have pointed out for a while and management should have been proactive about. Simple as that

Are you a hundred percent sure they didn’t investigate trading him last summer and the returns weren’t what they were looking for?

[AC]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

You just put it to Rasmus that you will trade him as a rental and he loses the extra two years he would have been able to sign for if he worked with you as a sign and trade. See if that changes his mind a bit.

This is absolutely the leverage the Flames should use. Andersson loses 2 prime years of negotiation if he isn't willing to expand his list of teams.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Groot

Screw you Andersson if this is true. If so and I'm Conroy, I'm sending him to Buffalo for whatever, he can play out his contract in that dumpster fire and hope Vegas still wants him as a UFA after a dreadful contract year.

I mean... most of the talk in this thread is getting silly. But if you wanted to really stick it to Andersson, trading him to Buffalo is not the option. Buffalo would play him with Dahlin, which would boost his stats for his next contract.

Instead, trade him to San Jose where he would have no one to play with, his stats would tank and his next contract would be 6 years at a much lower AAV.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Why not three years? And everybody at 50% retention.

We don’t even need to have any players we’ll just be a team comprised entirely of futures.

lol. I hope the next time the Flames enter the rebuild cycle they are more proactive. Keeping Andersson did not jive well with what else they did that summer. They kept a tonne of cap space and did nothing to be competitive. They didn’t need a bunch of hindsight to realize that.
Hanifin, Lindholm, and Zadorov were different. It makes sense they wanted to try again.

[Hockey-and_stuff]

Conroy stumping for his guys and talking loyalty and everyone wants to play for the least loyal team in the league.

Loyalty gets you nothing. They hung on to him out of loyalty to the players and wanting to give them the best shot at playoffs and this is the thanks they get.

Conroy has been burned twice now. The entire FO needs to learn a lesson here. It cannot happen again.

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[bluejays]

This is likely leaked by Andersson, but I can't help but also wonder about Vegas given their track record. Post draft I was saying "no worries, there's still time", but after this report it seems like Andersson's team is now taking a more aggressive stance. So much for being a leader and helping out your team. It kills team leverage to leak to info. How do you not impact your relationship when this nonsense happens. We seen the impact it had with the Hanifin deal. He cannot start the seson on the team. Screw him.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Wolven

I mean... most of the talk in this thread is getting silly. But if you wanted to really stick it to Andersson, trading him to Buffalo is not the option. Buffalo would play him with Dahlin, which would boost his stats for his next contract.

Instead, trade him to San Jose where he would have no one to play with, his stats would tank and his next contract would be 6 years at a much lower AAV.

Also he does have limited NTC protection and Buffalo is probably on that list.

[Calgary Highlander]

If he's on the team to start the season, he should not be seeing any PP time.

Weegar on the first unit, Parekh on the second.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I wouldn't mind a deal focused on future picks. Play the long game. At some point Vegas will get bad right? RIGHT?

Vegas will definitely be bad at some point. Having two of their 1st round picks would be good. Not sure what the prospect pool is like for them.

[Enoch Root]

If I'm Conroy, I'm telling Andersson that Vegas is off the table and he has 2 choices: give us an expanded list, or we trade you as a rental and you can sign with Vegas for 6 years.