05-23-2025, 03:06 AM
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#81
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Franchise Player
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I don't even care who wins this poll, all I know is Risebrough was undoubtedly the worst GM as far as being a good human, a total self centered asshat goof. when I say I actually thought about punching him in the head one time I'm not kidding.
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05-23-2025, 05:27 AM
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#82
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by Hackey
Feaster. Guy had no business managing an NHL team.
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Yeah but he still managed not to #### up the team as badly as Risebrough and Button
And probably Treliving too the way he left the team
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05-23-2025, 09:10 AM
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#83
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Normally, my desk
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
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What a great website. When you go through any GM of any team at any time, it's crazy how many trades are really nothing trades. Conroy doesn't have the volume of others, but his trade history is very impressive so far compared to a lot.
For worst GM, I have to say Risebrough 
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05-23-2025, 09:20 AM
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#84
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by activeStick
Sutter is a bit of a mystery. Some of his moves would indicate how bad he was as a talent evaluator, as you mentioned, while other moves like acquiring Nilson, Simon and Niemenen (not even including Kiprusoff here) were knocks out of the park. Just weird.
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My take at the time was the Sutter was initially very effective with players he knew from his time coaching in SJ. He went to that well a number of times IIRC. Kipper being the prime example.
As time passed, his personal familiarity with players outside the org declined, and his late acquisitions of old guys (Nolan, Amonte) was the direct result of him remembering them from their primes.
Then of course he got fleeced by Burke in the Phaneuf trade and everyone with PTSD from the Gilmour deal saw exactly where we were headed.
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05-23-2025, 09:27 AM
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#85
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First Line Centre
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I wonder if Doug Risebrough would be better thought of if his offer sheet in 92 to Teemu Selanne had been accepted.
https://thehockeywriters.com/flames-...-offer-sheets/
Probably.
There was an old Elston cartoon of "The Flames "Wouldda, Couldda, Shouldda Line" with Hull - Gilmour - Selanne skating out...
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05-23-2025, 09:29 AM
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#86
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Lifetime Suspension
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Not sure how Nilson is a home run he scored 14 goals over 3 seasons. Nemo never played for us after the playoffs.
His best moves IMO Tanguay, Juice and JayBo.
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05-23-2025, 09:33 AM
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#87
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Langkow for Gauthier and Saprykin is one of the best trades the franchise has ever made. Especially in the post Fletcher era...which also tells you how things have been.
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05-23-2025, 09:57 AM
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#88
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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Originally Posted by LIP MAN
We go to the same gym. He’s a nice enough guy and man does he rock that elipicical hahah
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Haha yeah, it's literally the only thing I've ever seen him do there. And watching him do it, he seems to be world champion at it...why do anything else?
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05-23-2025, 10:01 AM
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#89
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Lifetime Suspension
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The irony of Button being scouted by people at the gym.
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05-23-2025, 10:07 AM
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#90
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Not sure how Nilson is a home run he scored 14 goals over 3 seasons. Nemo never played for us after the playoffs.
His best moves IMO Tanguay, Juice and JayBo.
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Cammaleri was a good trade.
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05-23-2025, 11:21 AM
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#91
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Originally Posted by SutterBrother
My take at the time was the Sutter was initially very effective with players he knew from his time coaching in SJ. He went to that well a number of times IIRC. Kipper being the prime example.
As time passed, his personal familiarity with players outside the org declined, and his late acquisitions of old guys (Nolan, Amonte) was the direct result of him remembering them from their primes.
Then of course he got fleeced by Burke in the Phaneuf trade and everyone with PTSD from the Gilmour deal saw exactly where we were headed.
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That Phaneuf trade was also him basically trying to save his brother Brent by retooling an underperforming team mid-season. That did work, Darryl took most of the blame.
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05-23-2025, 11:30 AM
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#92
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by SutterBrother
My take at the time was the Sutter was initially very effective with players he knew from his time coaching in SJ. He went to that well a number of times IIRC. Kipper being the prime example.
As time passed, his personal familiarity with players outside the org declined, and his late acquisitions of old guys (Nolan, Amonte) was the direct result of him remembering them from their primes.
Then of course he got fleeced by Burke in the Phaneuf trade and everyone with PTSD from the Gilmour deal saw exactly where we were headed.
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Seems to be the Oilers present pattern.
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05-23-2025, 11:43 AM
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#93
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Trading Phaneuf, was actually a pretty schrewd idea. He did pick the right time to move him as his value honestly was not higher after the deal. The return that he got...well that's a different story.
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05-23-2025, 12:07 PM
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#94
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2024
Location: Victoria, BC
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Didn't Sutter only notify like two other GMs that Phaneuf was even available or am I remembering that wrong?
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05-23-2025, 12:23 PM
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#95
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
The thread title should have been “who’s the 2nd worst GM”, because there is really no contest for THE worst.
For that, I think Jay Feaster: in his short 3-drafts time here, was awful. Trading Iginla and Boumeester was handled badly, was not needed and not called for (both players wanted to stay here). Drafting Baertshi, Jankowski, Poirier and Klimchuk in the three first rounds was absolutely atrocious. Yes, he lucked out with Johnny and, arguably, with Monahan (although, there were much better players drawn after Monahan - Ristolainen, Morissey, Horvat, Theodore). Just hate Feaster’s tenure here.
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Truly awful drafting has entered the chat.
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05-23-2025, 12:23 PM
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#96
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Yeah but he still managed not to #### up the team as badly as Risebrough and Button
And probably Treliving too the way he left the team
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Wasn't there a thread on how great Tre was when he was here and every trade was lauded as magic?
A lot of people on here that claim to know everything were chugging/pouring the Kool-Aid when the trades occurred.
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05-23-2025, 01:48 PM
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#97
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Sainters7
Yep exactly. Wild they went to the Stanley Cup Final 1-2 years after jettisoning all that talent, no thanks to him.
He actually works out at my gym, I see him semi-regularly. I'll never say anything obviously, but I've fantasized about screaming at him about it before...
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If you see him semi-regulary....you know you could just approach him, strike up a conversation and ask him about it. have a nice and civil conversation. I've met him and he's an awesome human being. I do think though that he does look back at that time with regrets as he never got an opportunity as a GM again. He went on to have a successful career nonetheless.
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05-23-2025, 02:15 PM
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#98
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Not sure how Nilson is a home run he scored 14 goals over 3 seasons. Nemo never played for us after the playoffs.
His best moves IMO Tanguay, Juice and JayBo.
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He wasn't a 1st round pick and an NHL player because of his offensive prowess.
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05-23-2025, 02:33 PM
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#99
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Finger Cookin
Truly awful drafting has entered the chat.
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Oh god, that is bad. Brett Sutter was probably the best player drafted in those years. The nepo pick turned out to be the right one.
OT, but remember when JD Watt demanded a trade from the organization as if the Flames were the ones holding him back?
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05-23-2025, 02:36 PM
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#100
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Oh god, that is bad. Brett Sutter was probably the best player drafted in those years. The nepo pick turned out to be the right one.
OT, but remember when JD Watt demanded a trade from the organization as if the Flames were the ones holding him back?
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IIRC Daryl had no idea they were drafting him. The scouting staff surprised him.
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