[Trade] M. Pettersson + D O'Connor from PIT to VAN for Heinen, Desharnais, Fernstrom, NYR 1st

[Buff]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

Trade 2026 1st++ to Dallas for Matthias Emilio Pettersen? Gotta get all of the Pettersson/Pettersens.

All your Petterssons/sens are belong to them!

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Boeser
Pettersson
Suter
Raty (RFA)
O'Connor

They don't have that much space - they have $25M (I believe), but have to sign 9 guys, including the above.

I would think Boeser and Pettersson would eat at least $14-15M of it.

Basically they will be able to bring everyone back, and round out the roster with a few low-cost players.

So they will continue to stay the same or get worse by signing their UFAs to raises, with a completely empty pipeline.

Paying to dump this years free agent signings sounds the exact same that they did to get OEL.

It’s funny they traded with Pittsburgh as they seem to be run the exact same way as them. Just continuously wrong choices.

[TheScorpion]

That's a fake Seravalli quote

[Blaster86]

This one sparks joy.

[stemit14]

If the flames can’t get the McKenna pick in 2026 (ideally via Vegas collapsing and winning the lottery), my next choice would be for New York to finish bottom 12 this year so the pick gets deferred to next year… and Pittsburgh ends up getting the first overall pick. Vancouver will have given McKenna away for a 3rd pairing defencman and a 3rd line winger.

Don’t care if Pittsburgh’s been spoiled with stars already… it would be hilarious for that to happen to the Canucks.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

This one sparks joy.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by stemit14

If the flames can’t get the McKenna pick in 2026 (ideally via Vegas collapsing and winning the lottery), my next choice would be for New York to finish bottom 12 this year so the pick gets deferred to next year… and Pittsburgh ends up getting the first overall pick. Vancouver will have given McKenna away for a 3rd pairing defencman and a 3rd line winger.

Don’t care if Pittsburgh’s been spoiled with stars already… it would be hilarious for that to happen to the Canucks.

It would be funny but he's simply not a 3rd pairing D.

[WCW Nitro]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

This is absolutely terrible for Vancouver.

How somebody like Rutherford is still employed in this league is beyond me. One of the very worst managers in league history.

Uhm, he's won 3 Cups.

[tony-soprano]

Originally Posted by WCW Nitro

Uhm, he's won 3 Cups.

Didn’t he basically inherit those teams and then leave them with no futures?

[devo22]

The 06 Canes, he did build ... the Pens teams, he inherited Crosby, Malkin and so on.

[WCW Nitro]

Originally Posted by tony-soprano

Didn’t he basically inherit those teams and then leave them with no futures?

He did inherit Crosby and Malkin, but if it was so easy to win with them the previous guy wouldn't have gotten fired and would have won more than one Cup. Rutherford made some key moves like bringing in Kessel, Hornqvist etc.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Allvin done lost his mind. Pretty great day to be a Flames fan, watching the team chasing competing with us for a playoff spot sewer their team in a single day.

Who knows if the team is better off or not after removing distractions and underperforming expensive players, but the reality is this: It's all on Petterson now. He's going to have to be the guy that leads the Canucks to success. I have my doubts that he's capable of that.

It's gonna be an ugly next few years in Vancouver. Feels Goodman.

[devo22]

they are just pissing away assets, it's incredible. They moved a bunch of futures for Zadorov and Lindholm, only to have them walk as UFAs ... now they move for another pending UFA in M. Pettersson. Better make sure to sign him this time.

From the last two drafts, all they have left from the first three rounds are Willander and Mynio. Who are decent, don't get me wrong, but they've pissed away all those other picks. A first and a third (Brzustewicz) for Lindholm (walked as a UFA), a second for Stillman (then flipped for Josh Bloom, who currently is in the ECHL). Now another third (Fernstrom) in this deal. They've given up a good chunk of their prospect pool and have very, very little to show for it.

[SuperMatt18]

TBH if this wasn't Vancouver making this trade right after making an underwhelming trade to get rid of Miller it wouldn't be that bad.

They dump the Desharnais and Heinen deals as they haven't really worked out for them and which have one more year left on them ($4.25M combined)

Bring in a legitimate top 4 dman (who is a bit underrated) in Pettersson and a bottom 6 guy that I kind of like in O'Connor.
https://x.com/jfreshhockey/status/18...077159981?s=46

And it really costs a 1st to do those things, that's not the worst. I thought that with a lack of dmen on the market this year Pettersson might get a 1st on his own.

But the optics of the whole thing really make this a head scratcher for Vancouver since they seem set on trying to make a push this year.

I guess if they re-sign M. Pettersson it maybe okay but giving up a potential protected first next year is risky.

[Andrew]

When your hand gets forced i don't think Alvin did as bad as some say.

Tochet and rutherford know the players. That adds value and hope for fit. Even not direct coaching i am sure they watch their ex team
Miller needed to go. It went public much like tre was forced.

Chytil I think could break out he is basically 3rd line in van. Concussions yes but he skilled and fast.

[Flamesfan05]

Unlike the Miller trade, this one will help them now

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

This feels like is Vancouver's version of the Phaneuf to Toronto trade...

Desperate move to try and make the playoffs by trading quality for a bunch of depth pieces.

This is a great analogy. Flames had sky high expectations that year and started fine but a skid lead to rumors of issues in the room and then 15 years ago to the day of these Canuck trades Sutter makes 2 horrendous moves that the team would not recover from for 5 years which was a complete rebuild of all players except Gio and Backs

[SuperMatt18]

Trading Pettersson would have been Vancouvers version of the Phaneuf trade.

In the end Miller is 32...Phaneuf was 24, so trading Pettersson for a bunch of "pieces" would have been more like the Phaneuf deal.

Similar situation but it almost feels a bit like the opposite. Flames traded the 24 year old that wasn't living up to a big contract and kept the 30 and 32 year olds in Regehr and Iginla.

Canucks traded the 32 year old, but are keeping the 26 year old not living up to the huge contract.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Trading Pettersson would have been Vancouvers version of the Phaneuf trade.

In the end Miller is 32...Phaneuf was 24, so trading Pettersson for a bunch of "pieces" would have been more like the Phaneuf deal.

Similar situation but it almost feels a bit like the opposite. Flames traded the 24 year old that wasn't living up to a big contract and kept the 30 and 32 year olds in Regehr and Iginla.

Canucks traded the 32 year old, but are keeping the 26 year old not living up to the huge contract.

Age wise yes but Miller and Phaneuf had reputations that they rubbed teammates the wrong way. The similarity is more so the team making 2 trades on Jan 31 in a season filled with expectations and they appear to be heading of a cliff and the trade pieces acquired are not giving anyone hope the team is in a better place. The Jokinen deal is similar to the second deal in the sense it is a bit of a head scratcher but there are a lot of differences in the pieces but a somewhat shocking deal that doesn’t really make Van any better imo

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Unlike the Miller trade, this one will help them now

It damn well better, since they're giving up a 1st-round pick.