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Old 05-07-2024, 12:30 PM   #81
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Pretty ridiculous how some teams get all the fortune.

NJ has moved up three times in the past 7 drafts.. getting Hughes, Hischier, and Nemec.

Screw them.
Plus they moved up a lot of spots in 2011 even though they were only 8th last.
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Old 05-07-2024, 12:35 PM   #82
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Are the Blackhawks still eligible to win the draft?
I though that there was a new rule that prevented a team from winning the first overall two/three/four years in a row.
Edit: Please ignore all of this. Teams can win twice in the 5 years, not once.

CHI won the lotto last season, therefore they can't move up again for the next 5 seasons. I just realized, however, that the rule isn't that they can't win the lottery, only that they can't benefit from winning the lottery.

So... a very likely scenario is that CHI wins one of the two lottos and, although they can't benefit from it, they still screw someone else out of winning it.

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Old 05-07-2024, 12:36 PM   #83
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CHI won the lotto last season, therefore they can't move up again for the next 5 seasons. I just realized, however, that the rule isn't that they can't win the lottery, only that they can't benefit from winning the lottery.

So... a very likely scenario is that CHI wins one of the two lottos and, although they can't benefit from it, they still screw someone else out of winning it.
Can't they win two times in a 5 year span?
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Old 05-07-2024, 12:37 PM   #84
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Can't they win two times in a 5 year span?
Why yes, yes they can. I even looked up the rule prior to my post, but I always thought it was only once in 5 years so I completely glossed over that part.

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(3) Limit on Teams Winning a Lottery Draw

No single team will be able to advance in the Draft order by reason of winning a Lottery Draw more than two (2) times in any five (5) year period. This limitation will not affect a Club’s ability to retain its presumptive Draft position in any Draft Lottery, nor would it preclude the possibility of the Club moving down in Draft Order to the extent other Clubs advance by reason of winning the Lottery Draws. For purposes of clarity, the limitation would attach to the team, not the specific pick.

By way of example, if a Club were to win the first Lottery Draw as the 7th Worst-Finishing Club in Year 1 (thereby earning the First Overall Selection in the succeeding Draft), and the second Lottery Draw as the 13th Worst-Finishing Club in Year 3 (thereby earning the Third Overall Selection in the succeeding Draft), that Club would no longer be eligible to benefit by winning a Lottery Draw in either of Year 4 or Year 5, and would not be able to benefit again by winning the Draft Lottery (or either of the Draft Lottery Draws) until Year 6 at the earliest.

Edit: There's also this part too... which I didn't realize. Although the above limit began with the 2022 season, it is not retroactive... so even if CHI had moved up in the couple years prior to this rule kicking in, it wouldn't matter as it's only forward-facing.

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Given the unique characteristics of this season, including a shortened Regular Season schedule (56 games), as well as Club schedules that are comprised exclusively of intra-Division games, some of these changes will be “phased-in” (as opposed to an immediate implementation), on the following schedule:

(1) The reduction in the number of Draft Lottery Draws from three to two is being implemented for the 2021 Draft Lottery (and beyond).

(2) The limitation on “move up” and the limitation on benefiting from Draft Lottery “wins” over a five-year period is being implemented for the 2022 Draft Lottery (and beyond). The limitation on benefiting from Draft Lottery “wins” will be forward-looking only and will not be retroactive. Therefore, no Club will be able to move-up in the Draft Order by reason of winning a Lottery Draw any more than two (2) times during the period of 2022 through 2026.

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Old 05-07-2024, 12:39 PM   #85
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Old 05-07-2024, 12:40 PM   #86
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That would be way more fun but I doubt we see the ping pong ball machine actually drawing on live TV. There's tons of risk for the league in case of malfunction and the auditors would have many concerns.
How would it be any different than lottery draws. I am pretty sure they still do that. That technology seems pretty full proof.
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My luck has been absolutely abysmal lately. I'm due for something good to happen.
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Old 05-07-2024, 12:43 PM   #88
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Per NHL.com, the Flames' combinations for those who want to sweat this live:

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Old 05-07-2024, 12:48 PM   #89
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The Calgary Flames have won the draft lottery and will select 1st overall in the 2024 draft.
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The Calgary Flames have won the draft lottery and will select 1st overall in the 2024 draft.
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Old 05-07-2024, 12:56 PM   #92
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The Calgary Flames have won the draft lottery and will pick 1st overall in the 2024 NHL Draft. The Edmonton Oilers will lose in 4 games to the Vancouver Canucks. Might as well go full bore.
Vancouver then loses in 4 to Dallas in the conference finals.
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Old 05-07-2024, 12:57 PM   #93
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J Fresh should do a combined ranking, IMO we should shoot up to 4th because of the relative lack of dislike towards our win compared to Columbus and the Ducks.
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The Calgary Flames have won the draft lottery and will pick 1st overall in the 2024 NHL Draft.
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Old 05-07-2024, 01:03 PM   #95
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"The #10 overall selection in the 2024 NHL Draft belongs to the New Jersey Devils."

"The #9 overall selection in the 2024 NHL Draft belongs to... the Seattle Kraken."

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The Calgary Flames have won the draft lottery and will pick 1st overall in the 2024 NHL Draft.
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They have to make a 30-minute show out of this and people are going to complain it's taking too long.
Wait until you see how much time they spend talking about McDavid.
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