[PGT] Avs 3, Flames 1

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

Only got to watch the third. Despite the loss, I had a smile on my face seeing this team pin the avalanche back and have them on their heels for most of the period.

They have noticeably improved over the last 10 games.

[cannon7]

Hoping Vladar is being packaged with someone in a trade soon so that Wolf can step in. Watching the Flames limit the Avs to 24 shots and still have a .875SV% is just not good enough.

[howard_the_duck]

PP QB is a glaring hole, rightly pointed out by Millen on the broadcast. Andersson is so deliberate moving the puck, IMO the pp struggles begin with him.

Hope in our trade returns we are targeting C and D prospects. Team has lacked a proper #1D since Gio left.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

PP QB is a glaring hole, rightly pointed out by Millen on the broadcast. Andersson is so deliberate moving the puck, IMO the pp struggles begin with him.

Hope in our trade returns we are targeting C and D prospects. Team has lacked a proper #1D since Gio left.

And, that is where the loss of Kylington has been so devastating. If he had been able to play this entire time, what kind of a player would he be today?

[robertsfanatic]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

PP QB is a glaring hole, rightly pointed out by Millen on the broadcast. Andersson is so deliberate moving the puck, IMO the pp struggles begin with him.

Hope in our trade returns we are targeting C and D prospects. Team has lacked a proper #1D since Gio left.

It's a shame Poirier got hurt because he might have gotten a look.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Goriders

They have noticeably improved over the last 10 games.

A lot of credit, I think, has to go to Huska (and the coaching staff - minus the PP) for this turn-around. Not a lot of posts referencing how Sutter wasn't the problem of late.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

PP QB is a glaring hole, rightly pointed out by Millen on the broadcast. Andersson is so deliberate moving the puck, IMO the pp struggles begin with him.

Hope in our trade returns we are targeting C and D prospects. Team has lacked a proper #1D since Gio left.

If not for Poirier's injury, we may already have had a solution here.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

AZ is in 6th and the Kraken are in 8th in powerplay. It can be done effectively.

Pittsburgh is one spot above Calgary. Washington is dead last.

1 through 5 are New Jersey, Tampa, Rangers, Vancouver, and Toronto. The Oilers are 7th.

Arizona at 6 only means their young players might be better than you’re giving them credit for.

Nobody on Washington is elite anymore. Pittsburgh’s guys still are, so check back again at the end of the year.

You cannot have an elite powerplay with no elite players. I don’t know why you’d bother arguing otherwise.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by D as in David

A lot of credit, I think, has to go to Huska (and the coaching staff - minus the PP) for this turn-around. Not a lot of posts referencing how Sutter wasn't the problem of late.

Because it is already clear he wasn't the problem and it shouldn't need to repeatedly be pointed out.

Not sure the team being out of the play-offs right now is proving that wrong.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

The pp (I hope) is mirroring the development of our overall play. Overall play was a disaster as they struggled with the structure. Eventually they learned to robotically execute the structure but it still wasn’t fluid. Now there is more fluidity and you can see decent execution.

I think the movement on the pp has improved the last couple of games. It’s still robotic and maintained to the outside. Hope they take the next step soon to develop some fluidity… as everyone has said, it would really be welcome.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Why would he leave MacKinnon et al?

They could take a run at breaking the Sid/Geno/Letang record of 18 straight seasons as teammates.

He’d be taking less money, less years, to come to a worse situation and a city that is basically Small Denver without gun violence.

It’s not impossible but it would be pretty anomalous.

Mack and Makar aren't the same age like the three you referenced. There's little chance Mack plays long enough to play 18 seasons with Makar. Makar will still have 4-5 years left on his contract when most of the current Avs are retired, Mack is 36 and they're going to be retooling or rebuilding. There's no basis that he would be taking less money here. And the Flames situation should be considerably better than the Avs unless they screw up the coming few years.

[redmile04]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Hoping Vladar is being packaged with someone in a trade soon so that Wolf can step in. Watching the Flames limit the Avs to 24 shots and still have a .875SV% is just not good enough.

Agreed but trade value can't be high.. one game in 6 GP with a SP over .900 and that game was .903... and coming off a season witha .895 SP.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

1 through 5 are New Jersey, Tampa, Rangers, Vancouver, and Toronto. The Oilers are 7th.

Arizona at 6 only means their young players might be better than you’re giving them credit for.

Nobody on Washington is elite anymore. Pittsburgh’s guys still are, so check back again at the end of the year.

You cannot have an elite powerplay with no elite players. I don’t know why you’d bother arguing otherwise.

It’s undeniable that elite players would make a powerplay better. I’m just pushing back against the notion that Calgary can’t have an adequate powerplay with what they have (see Kraken).

[442scotty]

Fun game to watch and I wasn’t expecting a win. The Avs are loaded with high end skill and when their compete level matches the Flames the goalie has to stand on his head

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Disappointed in Dube and Mangiapane. They are being outworked and outplayed by our rookies. Not a good look.

Each one of them hit the crossbar - could have been a different conversation.

And I think the effort was absolutely there, from both of them, last night

[Enoch Root]

Good game, and a great effort by the Flames.

Remember when the Nucks were here, and the poor little things had to play a B2B, after a grueling 1 hour flight from VAN to CGY (with 2 days off prior to that)? And everyone, including Tocchet, whined about it, and blamed the loss on being tired?

The Flames just played a B2B against the 2 best teams in the west, with a 2.5 hour flight in between. They played 4 in 6 nights, going first to west coast (SEA), then all the way to NSH, then DAL and COL. On top of that, they have played 9 in 16 nights, which also includes another trip to the east. They have played more road games (14) than any other team, and only VAN has played 13.

Did the Flames complain? Did the Flames' coach complain? Did the Calgary media whine about it? Did the players whine? Did anyone use it as an excuse for the loss? Answer: no.

Instead, the Flames busted their asses, and dominated the Avs in the 2nd half of the game. And then they all - including the coach - took the loss with class.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Good game, and a great effort by the Flames.

Remember when the Nucks were here, and the poor little things had to play a B2B, after a grueling 1 hour flight from VAN to CGY (with 2 days off prior to that)? And everyone, including Tocchet, whined about it, and blamed the loss on being tired?

The Flames just played a B2B against the 2 best teams in the west, with a 2.5 hour flight in between. They played 4 in 6 nights, going first to west coast (SEA), then all the way to NSH, then DAL and COL. On top of that, they have played 9 in 16 nights, which also includes another trip to the east. They have played more road games (14) than any other team, and only VAN has played 13.

Did the Flames complain? Did the Flames' coach complain? Did the Calgary media whine about it? Did the players whine? Did anyone use it as an excuse for the loss? Answer: no.

Instead, the Flames busted their asses, and dominated the Avs in the 2nd half of the game. And then they all - including the coach - took the loss with class.

In fairness YVR-YYC is 428 miles +1 hour. DFW-DEN is 641 miles -1 hour.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by butterfly

In fairness YVR-YYC is 428 miles +1 hour. DFW-DEN is 641 miles -1 hour.

They said on HNIC last night that the flight is 2.5 hours. It is not 1 hour.

Regardless, the trip was 7,400 kms, and they travelled 14,000 kms for 9 games in 16 nights in 4 time zones. Ending with a grueling B2B.

And they played with heart and effort.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Each one of them hit the crossbar - could have been a different conversation.

And I think the effort was absolutely there, from both of them, last night

And Mangiapane is an odd target ... he's top 3-4 in pretty much any play driving metric over the last ten.

Wish he would finish more but questioning his work ethic is missing the mark.

[Enoch Root]

according to Air Miles Calculator, it is 1 hour 45 minutes from DAL to DEN. So Hrudy was was way off.

Doesn't change that the Flames have been travelling a ridiculous amount so far