[PGT] There was a 4-1 hockey game I guess

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

I'm not saying this is a contending team, but they are better than this.

The Flames went from a legit coach who was a hard ass right back to bargain bin hunting again. There are lots of good experienced coaches, with track records in the NHL who the Flames could have hired.

Why can we not try another good coach? Is Edwards that cheap?

Maybe they're not better than this. Maybe this is exactly what they are.

They're not good. And when your supposed 'best' offensive players are terrible, what are you left with?

I'm ok with it though. I'm still cheering for wins, but losing a lot this year and trading away a bunch of UFAs for futures is the best case scenario, as painful as it will be to watch.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Vedder

People grading Huberdeau on the Matt Phillips curve. “He had a few good chances!”. Yikes.

Bleak - genuinely don’t know where it goes from here since you can’t get rid of him without giving up a good asset, which the Flames aren’t in a position to do.

If this was his last year of his contract , you could likely move him with a first.

Thing about what 8 years would cost.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

This is not a 30th place team, it just isn't and I'm sorry but I can't be convinced otherwise. A very similar team was able to execute Sutter's system last year, it just didn't work because hey had goaltending nobody could win with. This year we don't even have a system. It's just terrible play all over the ice.

As a coach Huska was brutal in the AHL, so really why would he get good now.

Mitch Love was a successful coach and instead of giving him a chance they promoted Pierre Maguire 2.0.

I mean, it's probably better to just collapse than be the 20th overall team, but at least instill some good habits and get them playing a good brand of hockey.

Was Love a successful coach? He had the best goalie in the league and got good regular season results but zero play-off success even with a stud keeper.

Not saying Huska is great but the Mitch Love hype is always weird to me. Neither guy should have even been considered for our job.

[Infinit47]

Huberdeau and Lindholm at centre don't work. Try Huberdeau-Kadri-Lindholm. Try anything.

Hanifin and Anderson need to be back together. That's a no brainer and I have no clue why Huska won't do it.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

I'm not saying this is a contending team, but they are better than this.

The Flames went from a legit coach who was a hard ass right back to bargain bin hunting again. There are lots of good experienced coaches, with track records in the NHL who the Flames could have hired.

Why can we not try another good coach? Is Edwards that cheap?

On what basis do you think this team is better?

They weren’t a playoff team last year, and they traded away their leading scorer. They fired a hall of fame coach, and hired his assistant as a rookie head coach.

What lens are you looking through that makes you believe they’re better than this? They have a $10.5M player on pace for like 40 points or whatever. The goalies are all sub-.900

This is a bad roster.

[Flames_F.T.W]

Went to the game with my 9 year old... Not sure he's a Flames fan anymore lol. It's too late for me, but maybe he can find another team and be happy

[1_Flames_Fan]

Wolf looked like an NHL goalie, not the slightest bit upset with him that we lost.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

This is what the team is. Borderline, inconsistent, up and down.

It’s not rocket science. And they’ll lose plenty to get us a good draft pick.

[FanIn80]

It'll never happen, but I feel like both players and teams should be able to opt out of a contract during its first year. Maybe only on extended contracts though, since both player and team should have some level of familiarity if they're extending.

So if a player flakes during the first year of their extension, the team can elect to rescind the remaining term on the contract, effectively making them a UFA at the end of the season.

Same with the player's side. If the team starts changing things too much during the player's first year... They're sucking too much, or new coach hates them or whatever... Player can opt out and hit the market.

Keeping in mind any movement clauses would invalidate and allow the team to maximize asset return

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Was Love a successful coach? He had the best goalie in the league and got good regular season results but zero play-off success even with a stud keeper.

Not saying Huska is great but the Mitch Love hype is always weird to me. Neither guy should have even been considered for our job.

Promoting Huska was beyond stupid. At Least Love may have had some different ideas. And if the AHL barometer of success is to promote young players and not to win then I would say Love should get at least some credit for how the Flames young guys are coming along.

The Flames just got embarrassed and Huska's answer was to change nothing and get pounded. 2 shots in the girls period and he didn't change a single line.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

This is not a 30th place team, it just isn't and I'm sorry but I can't be convinced otherwise. A very similar team was able to execute Sutter's system last year, it just didn't work because hey had goaltending nobody could win with. This year we don't even have a system. It's just terrible play all over the ice.

As a coach Huska was brutal in the AHL, so really why would he get good now.

Mitch Love was a successful coach and instead of giving him a chance they promoted Pierre Maguire 2.0.

I mean, it's probably better to just collapse than be the 20th overall team, but at least instill some good habits and get them playing a good brand of hockey.

Huska was shortlisted for the Detroit job. He is not the issue here.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Huska was shortlisted for the Detroit job. He is not the issue here.

What does NOT getting another teams job have to do with his performance here ?

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Gotta say the Love love confuses me. There are zero data to suggest he would have been any good at the NHL level. It’s more the absence of such data that has people in such thrall.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

2 shots in the girls period and he didn't change a single line.

...and that's when I said, "Pardon?"

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

On what basis do you think this team is better?

They weren’t a playoff team last year, and they traded away their leading scorer. They fired a hall of fame coach, and hired his assistant as a rookie head coach.

What lens are you looking through that makes you believe they’re better than this? They have a $10.5M player on pace for like 40 points or whatever. The goalies are all sub-.900

This is a bad roster.

Well almost every expert projected this roster to be a WC team or a challenger to it, if you look at last year if they had any semblance of goaltending or the ability to win in OT they would have made the playoffs. Despite losing Toffoli I think the roster is actually deeper and better than last year and yet they have no structure, no system that I can remotely tell, it's like they are coached to turn pucks over and not defend. You can argue the roster is not very good and that's fine but people need to stop defending this garbage coach, he is terrible, the worst thing we have seen since Gilbert. Now given the fact this team needs to strip it down and build toward the future I am perfectly fine with Huska staying as coach for now, they wouldn't have a better guy back there to sewer this team.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

What does NOT getting another teams job have to do with his performance here ?

Stevie Y knows a bit about hockey. More than a lot of us here. If he saw enough to shortlist Huska, I think that counts for something as to what kind of coach he is.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Huska was shortlisted for the Detroit job. He is not the issue here.

He was considered for the Detroit job, he didn't get it. I am sure Red Wing fans are rejoicing at that.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Not sure why we're even discussing coaching with this team. It's just giving a free pass to the players where the blame obviously lies.

I'm more upset that they may be hurting their trade value by their poor play. Yes, I'm looking straight at you Lindholm. Just awful this season.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

Promoting Huska was beyond stupid. At Least Love may have had some different ideas. And if the AHL barometer of success is to promote young players and not to win then I would say Love should get at least some credit for how the Flames young guys are coming along.

The Flames just got embarrassed and Huska's answer was to change nothing and get pounded. 2 shots in the girls period and he didn't change a single line.

He had the best goaltender in the league though. Wolf didn’t get promoted. If we can’t judge him in his coaching past what do we have to say he would any good?

He was so awesome all the other teams passed in him as well. Huska is not a good coach but we could have prime Scotty Bowman here and this team is doing nothing. This is a player problem not a coaching problem.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

On what basis do you think this team is better?

They weren’t a playoff team last year, and they traded away their leading scorer. They fired a hall of fame coach, and hired his assistant as a rookie head coach.

What lens are you looking through that makes you believe they’re better than this? They have a $10.5M player on pace for like 40 points or whatever. The goalies are all sub-.900

This is a bad roster.

You think this team is San Jose level bad, because that is where they are at. The have a good defense core, average goaltending and below average forwards. That does not make you the third worst team in he league.

They lost one key forward, that's a 30point drop in the standings?

They are better than this. How much better? not a ton, but better. Hiring another never has been cheapo coach and watching his team put up two shots in the third period of a game and not making a single change anywhere is pathetic.