Minor hockey players required to wear bottom layer to dressing room

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

The same hockey Canada org that spent years covering up cases of gang rape and sexual assault is now concerned about inclusivity and body image.

What a remarkable turnaround.

This is kind of my thought. I'm waiting to see how Hockey Canada adjusts and makes meaningful changes to how it runs itself. I was looking for something more substantive than locker-room underwear rules that probably don't effect many people.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

That's a heart warming story.

Although I'm sure this is just an extra perk for her on top of the fun of the game. Let's not pretend a dose of bare junk doesn't register in the opposite sex as more than meaningless flesh.

Oh yeah, I'm sure she loves staring at all those cocks. WTF?

Anyways, nobody in this thread ever got bullied or felt uncomfortable in the locker room? Lucky for all of you I guess.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

1. The extra perk is getting to chat and hang out with the team before and after the game

2. even if she was attracted to someone on the team it wouldn't matter because it isn't about that. It's about hanging out and playing sports.

3. everyone tries to be modest to keep things conformable.

Not everything needs to be viewed through a lens of sex.

You just articulated by my daughter doesn't use the women's room.

Trent is being a dick

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Torture

Oh yeah, I'm sure she loves staring at all those cocks. WTF?

Anyways, nobody in this thread ever got bullied or felt uncomfortable in the locker room? Lucky for all of you I guess.

I played minor hockey for many years. Always showered. Never saw anyone picked on. But I’m sure a few players felt uncomfortable. A few didn’t shower. No one cared.

Maybe my experience wasn’t universal. But I’m skeptical this would have helped. I tend to think this only further stigmatizes nudity.

I think helping players be comfortable with their bodies would be a better solution.

On the other hand, I’m not sure if this is that much of an inconvenience that needs an inquiry. Especially since it would appear many teams will ignore it and let the parents/players decide.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

You just articulated by my daughter doesn't use the women's room.

Trent is being a dick

Less of a dick, more so acting like a complete ####ing moron.

[White Out 403]

the north american terror of nudity is so ####ing Victorian and ridiculous. Like someone said earlier, i feel like some folks would have full on panic attacks in europe or Finland especially

[SutterBrother]

I want to say this was the moral of the story with Slapshot?

You can be as violent as you like, and the game is equipped to deal with it within the rules. But nudity of any sort is strictly beyond the pale.

You can literally knock out an opponent. You can punch their teeth out of their head. But you can't walk around your own locker room after the game naked.

Maybe I'm reading it wrong. Seems dumb.

[Enoch Root]

it is the puritanical way

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by blankall

If you play in your boxers, wouldn't it be okay to leave them on? What if you paly comando with just a jock strap? You have no "base layer" Or you have to arrive in the jock strap?

The way I understand it is that

1) you can't be shirtless in the locker room. I put my shoulder pads on my bare skin, which would now not be allowed. I'd have to do that in the bathroom stall now. But I'm in the minority here.

For most players, who change t-shirts after a game...they need to use the bathroom stall to change from one t-shirt into another. Alternatively, they could wear their sweaty t-shirt (that they played in) home.

2) you have to wear shorts over your boxers. The base layer can either be compression shorts or shorts. If you want to put your jockshorts on over your boxers, you have to do that in the bathroom stall. Or you can wear your jockshorts to the game.


https://cdn.hockeycanada.ca/hockey-c...m-policy-e.pdf

[Whynotnow]

I am someone who believes fully in hockey needing to make changes in culture to become more inclusive and accessible. There is a ways to go in many fronts. This policy and its rollout is a disaster though and is the answer to a question nobody was asking.

I coach U18, there have always been some kids through all age groups a bit more modest and come more fully dressed or change a bit more privately. Nobody says a thing and it’s a non issue. Starting at U15 we didn’t have the girls change in the room. At that point puberty hits and these are the kids classmates, it makes sense and is the right thing for coaches and the kids. It does suck for the female a bit but when we’ve had it there was a hard rule for when the boys needed to be ready so she could come and hang in the room. Everyone adjusts.

This policy will basically get ignored, turning all of us coaches now into someone not following policy. One vindicative parent could file a complaint over this and we’d be done. In addition it creates a culture of deviance, if this policy is stupid and I am comfortable ignoring it, what other hockey Canada directives are ok for me to just ignore?

What a botched situation, which will lead to more resentment of already marginalized groups that are being attacked.

Hockey Canada sure wants to put itself out of business and push more kids to things like HSL - because this will help do that.

[Red_Baron]

Just read the actual policy and it is contradictive.


In one section it says that they should arrive in their base layer t-shirt and in the shower section it says they should use swim attire.



Does that mean you cannot be shirtless before a game but it is okay afterwards?
Or do the kids need to have some 1920's full-body swim attire?

[Boreal]

It’s just more insanity from an incompetent, toothless, gutless, and archaic regulatory authority.

They won’t change until there is a financial incentive to do so. Whatever consequences they’re facing from the existing controversies it obviously hasn’t reached a level that will bring real change.

Never assume malice when stupidity will suffice. But eventually if you judge stupidity or malice by their outcomes… they’re the same.

[Yamer]

The only problems I ever had in minor hockey dressing rooms were with bullies and a system that seemed entirely disinterested in correcting them. Sometimes those people were coaches. For 2 seasons the same 2-3 jackasses thought it was utterly hilarious to piss on people in the showers.

I see the intent behind this policy, but to me this is a strange way of addressing it. Maybe just be decent teammates, coaches, and officials, and if you're in a position of authority or leadership do your damn job and keep the rink safe and fun for everyone.

[troutman]

[GullFoss]

Danielle Smith can easily solve this problem by commissioning a consulting report on the benefit of Hockey Alberta leaving the umbrella of Hockey Canada.

Given Alberta's younger demographics, the province probably contributes an outsized amount to Hockey Canada funding via player dues. Are we getting fair representation and value for those dues? Hard to say.

A made in Alberta approach to hockey policy is also likely to counter the central Canadian bias in hockey Canada's approach to policy and culture.

[Sofa GM]

This new policy is completely embarrassing and exemplifies what the hell is wrong with society, just another day experiencing the demise of society.

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

This new policy is completely embarrassing and exemplifies what the hell is wrong with society, just another day experiencing the demise of society.

I don’t think this has much to do with society. This is a decision made by a body that is about a hair away from dissolution or collapse making a misguided policy. They have failed to atone for their pretty crappy culture and deeds from the past and instead think this is the path forward.

I actually think the push back they are seeing is a good thing, but unfortunately some will use this to also further their anger towards trans and gay initiatives.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Whynotnow

I don’t think this has much to do with society. This is a decision made by a body that is about a hair away from dissolution or collapse making a misguided policy. They have failed to atone for their pretty crappy culture and deeds from the past and instead think this is the path forward.

I actually think the push back they are seeing is a good thing, but unfortunately some will use this to also further their anger towards trans and gay initiatives.

It has everything to do with society, not sure how that’s not obvious

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

It has everything to do with society, not sure how that’s not obvious

Why would you think it’s obvious to anyone that wearing a shirt in a hockey lockerroom in representative of the demise of society? It’s an absurd statement to begin with.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

This new policy is completely embarrassing and exemplifies what the hell is wrong with society, just another day experiencing the demise of society.

Well that’s dramatic.