02-17-2020, 06:31 PM
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#81
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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ts basically a salary dump with Schaller
Canucks add a good piece to their lineup, however the west is wide open....
Why not take a chance, there is no guarantee they will contend next year...
Sure they are moving a prospect and a draft pick but other teams will make the same move (i.e. Penguins and Coyotes)
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02-17-2020, 06:31 PM
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#82
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Franchise Player
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Dimitri Filipovic ✔ @DimFilipovic
That deal the Canucks just made is the type of trade you make when you’re one player away from winning a Stanley Cup, not one player away from making the playoffs
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02-17-2020, 06:31 PM
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#83
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barca
JB doesn't trade for rentals, so they will re-sign him for sure.
we have his good friend Pearson as well so that played a big part of this deal i think.
word here in Vancouver is JB will be looking to deal some contract out at the TD.
Stecher or Tanev might be gone by Monday, we have this guy named Rafferty whose ready to step in.
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Yeah I hadn't thought of the Pearson-Toffoli connection, that was huge in 2014.
Brogan Rafferty is good too, I like him.
I'd heard about a conditional pick being involved in this deal. Does your tune change if this goes from as it currently exists to involving two seconds?
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02-17-2020, 06:32 PM
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#84
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djsFlames
He really isn't. Only Lindholm when he's playing RW.
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Lol. No.
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02-17-2020, 06:32 PM
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#85
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I am glad that the flames didn't pay that price. That being said, canucks did the right thing. They are a playoff team, perhaps with home ice in round 1. Show your team and your fans that you want to make a push for bigger things.
(Yes, I'm bitter treliving added nothing to the best flames team in 30 years at the deadline last year, nor did he do anything in the offseason).
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02-17-2020, 06:33 PM
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#86
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
So the Canucks don't have a 1st or a 2nd round pick. The 1st rounder was a decent move, Miller has been great for them. Not sure about the 2nd for Toffoli, I guess it remains to be seen how it works out. Does seem a little early to be dealing away picks like that but the rebuild has definitely gone quicker than I thought it would.
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I think it mostly has to do with the weakness of the division this year
No great team
So I have no issue taking the chance on riding one of the top 3 goalies in the league this year so far
If vegas was who we thought they were or the flames were having their regular season from last, different story imo
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02-17-2020, 06:34 PM
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#87
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Powerplay Quarterback
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We better get Hall in the offseason, I hate teams around us getting better
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02-17-2020, 06:34 PM
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#88
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
I am glad that the flames didn't pay that price. That being said, canucks did the right thing. They are a playoff team, perhaps with home ice in round 1. Show your team and your fans that you want to make a push for bigger things.
(Yes, I'm bitter treliving added nothing to the best flames team in 30 years at the deadline last year, nor did he do anything in the offseason).
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Canucks have one more point than Calgary and have traded their first and second
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02-17-2020, 06:35 PM
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#89
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamenspiel
Lol. No.
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What are you inhaling over there?
Lindholm >>>> Toffoli
To say TT is inferior to any of our current RW options to where you'd have trouble slotting him in over any one is nutty talk.
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02-17-2020, 06:35 PM
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#90
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flambers
ts basically a salary dump with Schaller
Canucks add a good piece to their lineup, however the west is wide open....
Why not take a chance, there is no guarantee they will contend next year...
Sure they are moving a prospect and a draft pick but other teams will make the same move (i.e. Penguins and Coyotes)
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I think its a poor move trading away all your futures when you clearly aren't a contender.
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02-17-2020, 06:37 PM
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#91
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First Line Centre
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Personally, I don't think any acquisition would propel this team to the next level. If it did, then it would be costing major assets.
Glass half empty, for sure, but this version of the team, this year, isn't going to get it done.
Better to do the work in the off-season and free agency
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02-17-2020, 06:37 PM
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#92
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Calgary
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This would be like the 2014-15 flames going for it lol don’t mortgage the future when you’re having one good year in a weak division.
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02-17-2020, 06:37 PM
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#93
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Canucks have one more point than Calgary and have traded their first and second
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They got 2 points in hand. The canucks have been rebuilding for years and have the prospect pool to take some swings. Will it payoff, who knows, but I would be really happy with it if I were a nucks fan.
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02-17-2020, 06:38 PM
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#94
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Lethbridge
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Let me guess, BT had a deal in place but it fell through at the last mimute.
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02-17-2020, 06:38 PM
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#95
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Canucks have one more point than Calgary and have traded their first and second
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Sure they also have two games in hand and they are 1 point behind the divisional leader (i.e. Oilers)
Any team who makes the playoffs in the west can make a run.....
I would bet the owners want the revenue from a playoff run
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02-17-2020, 06:39 PM
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#96
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d_phaneuf
I think it mostly has to do with the weakness of the division this year
No great team
So I have no issue taking the chance on riding one of the top 3 goalies in the league this year so far
If vegas was who we thought they were or the flames were having their regular season from last, different story imo
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It's a donkey move.
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02-17-2020, 06:39 PM
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#97
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Last edited by TheScorpion; 02-17-2020 at 06:48 PM.
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02-17-2020, 06:40 PM
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#98
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamenspiel
Lol. No.
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Not sure what you're trying to prove, but Toffoli is currently 21st in goals scored amongst RWers with 18 (would be 3rd on the Flames entire roster). He is 2 goals shy of Mark Stone, in 2 fewer games played. He is 39th in points per games played at .59 (would be 5th on the Flames).
Calgary would be a better team with him on RW, the only real argument is if he was worth the acquisition cost.
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02-17-2020, 06:41 PM
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#99
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
They got 2 points in hand. The canucks have been rebuilding for years and have the prospect pool to take some swings. Will it payoff, who knows, but I would be really happy with it if I were a nucks fan.
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It won't...they get dominated every game and win when their goalie stands on his head. TT won't change that
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02-17-2020, 06:41 PM
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#100
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
I suggested Pettersen
Both are ranked around 5ish in each teams' ranking.
Both NCAA guys
Pettersen was drafted later, but I think has progressed more.
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I’m not super impressed with Petersen (based on all of 1 live viewing) so that price wouldn’t have killed me.
I don’t love Toffoli but wouldn’t mind if Petersen is dealt as part of package for a top 6.
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