02-17-2020, 06:25 PM
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#61
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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So the Canucks don't have a 1st or a 2nd round pick. The 1st rounder was a decent move, Miller has been great for them. Not sure about the 2nd for Toffoli, I guess it remains to be seen how it works out. Does seem a little early to be dealing away picks like that but the rebuild has definitely gone quicker than I thought it would.
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02-17-2020, 06:25 PM
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#62
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamenspiel
If the Flames would have acquired Taffoli, where exactly would he play? You can’t really drop Mangiapani or Lindholm.
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Lol.
You could find a spot.
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02-17-2020, 06:25 PM
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#63
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JTech780
Good to see the Canucks over pay for Toffoli.
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a fringe 4th liner Schaller + 2nd and a prospect is overpayment? did you see what the Pens gave up for Zucker?
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02-17-2020, 06:26 PM
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#64
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Franchise Player
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So what would the Flames equivalent be?
I'm guessing
Jankowski (Schaller)+2nd+Pettersen (Madden)
I don't think i would have been pleased with that.
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02-17-2020, 06:26 PM
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#65
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barca
a fringe 4th liner Schaller + 2nd and a prospect is overpayment? did you see what the Pens gave up for Zucker?
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Zucker has term and a reasonable contract. Toffoli is a rental.
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02-17-2020, 06:27 PM
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#66
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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^ to Jiri,
Not for a rental, nope.
Most expiring UFAs get their tires pumped up so much by media, that average players become key pieces at the trade deadline and shiver average players become must haves.
Taffoli a slightly above average player, an though he would be added to the Flames, not a make it break peice for that price.
Last edited by browna; 02-17-2020 at 06:30 PM.
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02-17-2020, 06:27 PM
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#67
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barca
a fringe 4th liner Schaller + 2nd and a prospect is overpayment? did you see what the Pens gave up for Zucker?
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Well the obvious difference is Zucker has term left.
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02-17-2020, 06:27 PM
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#68
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Franchise Player
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Who would be a Flames prospect similar to Madden?
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02-17-2020, 06:27 PM
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#69
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djsFlames
Lol.
You could find a spot.
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Maybe 4th line, he is outclassed by our other right wingers
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02-17-2020, 06:28 PM
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#70
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
So what would the Flames equivalent be?
I'm guessing
Jankowski (Schaller)+2nd+Pettersen (Madden)
I don't think i would have been pleased with that.
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That's about the equivalent. Yeah I dont think we would've been pleased in retrospect at that price.
I wouldn't mind giving that up for a better player than Toffoli though.
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02-17-2020, 06:28 PM
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#71
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Who would be a Flames prospect similar to Madden?
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I suggested Pettersen
Both are ranked around 5ish in each teams' ranking.
Both NCAA guys
Pettersen was drafted later, but I think has progressed more.
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02-17-2020, 06:29 PM
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#72
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Madden is listed as 5’11” and 150 lbs on hockeydb. That can’t be current can it?
If so, he wouldn’t have the physique you would want for a 20 year old prospect.
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02-17-2020, 06:29 PM
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#73
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djsFlames
That's actually a fairly costly return.
It won't be worth it for the Nucks when all's said and done.
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Especially because there's no way they can re-sign Toffoli... he's probably going to cost $5-6M per year.
This is a pure rental for a team that's supposed to be trying to finish a re-build, but this trade suggests they're going all in on a Stanley Cup run. Bad trade.
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02-17-2020, 06:29 PM
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#74
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamenspiel
Maybe 4th line, he is outclassed by our other right wingers
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He really isn't. Only Lindholm when he's playing RW.
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02-17-2020, 06:29 PM
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#75
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Franchise Player
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My friends in Vancouver are not pleased about dealing away Madden away for Toffoli.
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02-17-2020, 06:30 PM
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#76
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Pretty much what I expected the cost to be from everything we’ve been hearing.
A 2nd, a good prospect, and a NHL roster player as throw in to help cap/contract #s.
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02-17-2020, 06:30 PM
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#77
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Boy the Kings have a CPHL Wild-level accumulation of forward prospects.
Gabe Vilardi
Alex Turcotte
Tyler Madden
Arthur Kaliyev
Rasmus Kupari
Jaret Anderson-Dolan
Akil Thomas
Samuel Fagemo
That's unfair organizational depth.
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02-17-2020, 06:30 PM
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#78
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Zucker has term and a reasonable contract. Toffoli is a rental.
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JB doesn't trade for rentals, so they will re-sign him for sure.
we have his good friend Pearson as well so that played a big part of this deal i think.
word here in Vancouver is JB will be looking to deal some contract out at the TD.
Stecher or Tanev might be gone by Monday, we have this guy named Rafferty whose ready to step in.
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02-17-2020, 06:30 PM
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#79
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Franchise Player
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Vancouver is one point up on Calgary and has traded their first and second
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02-17-2020, 06:31 PM
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#80
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamenspiel
If the Flames would have acquired Taffoli, where exactly would he play? You can’t really drop Mangiapani or Lindholm.
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Drop Monahan and make Lindy center again lol. Drop Gaudreau and move a guy to LW.
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