To be clear, I don't drink like I did in my 20's and early 30's. At one point I was drinking every night to get drunk.
Now I am 46, I start to think about what, when and how I drink. I am going to have a dry September, not because my drinking affects my life/work/parenting, but because I guess I want to see how a month of not drinking will affect me.
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Does it really come across that way? I'm not angry about any of these things. I just come across interesting stuff on other sites, usually to do with long-term trends, and I think they might be interesting to discuss on CP.
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To be clear, I don't drink like I did in my 20's and early 30's. At one point I was drinking every night to get drunk.
Now I am 46, I start to think about what, when and how I drink. I am going to have a dry September, not because my drinking affects my life/work/parenting, but because I guess I want to see how a month of not drinking will affect me.
When I was in my 20s, my roommates and I would sometimes have a contest to see if we could go a week without drinking. It was a very big deal if you managed it (and was always celebrated by getting absolutely hammered). These days I routinely go a week without a drink, and don't even notice. A month, though - that would take some discipline.
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Does it really come across that way? I'm not angry about any of these things. I just come across interesting stuff on other sites, usually to do with long-term trends, and I think they might be interesting to discuss on CP.
If I could suggest one thing (Not that you probably want to hear anything from me) it's your internet tone you could work on, imo. You bring up ideas that are interesting to think about but you don't really present them in that fashion.
You tend to take a teaching/condescending tone in your posting style when interacting, and a lot of your follow up posts tend to strengthen the idea that you think you're teaching the site rather then discussing with us.
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. If you can't imagine a Canada 20 or 30 years from now where drinking is regarded much the same way smoking is today - an unhealthy habit of the lower classes and the weak-minded - then you don't have a very good imagination.
This is sassy and confrontational when you're trying to present a new idea that we don't actually know the answer to yet.
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Interesting hearing one of the authors of the study on 770 today. He basically backed up the conclusions that we have seen all over the news, but a little digging by the interviewer unearthed that the outlook wasn't quite as grim as reported.
Two interesting takeaways (for me), that one drink a day is a mathematical, and not practical, risk. The danger grows exponentially the more that you drink, so common sense does follow the study.
The second bit was that the study took in all risks associated with the behavior, including drunk driving and associated violence. Everyone heard 'cancer' and sort of focused on that, but the overall risk factors were numerous.
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We are legalizing marijuana and deregulating alcohol. We have always known that moderate drinking was bad. The trend line is in the opposite direction.
I don't think anyone thinks alcohol will be prohibited anytime soon.
I could see social attitudes changing over time though, but 50 years is probably a more likely timeframe than 20 (gradual change).
Right now the guy who goes for a smoke at lunch isn't breaking any laws, but is socially judged (at least in a white collar environment). But in a professional environment you can have a drink or two at lunch, and the social pressure is at least as strong to drink as to not drink.
If scientific consensus develops that drinking is full-stop bad for you, the education system will start a full court press on kids, and as they grow I think drinking is less like to be cool and more likely to be stupid, much like smoking has become.
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Sassy: from the Latin sassimus. A forum post loaded with weasel words and unnecessary cultural disparagements intended to elicit an emotional response exceeding reasonable levels for a topic
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If you read the study the healthiest outcomes occur between 0 and .8 standard drinks daily. This means you can still drink 20 drinks a month and have a similar risk of death as the non drinker as the risks of Cancer and Drunk Driving don’t outwiegh the heart protective benefit.
So this study shows that getting drunk is bad and drinking one drink per day has a very Minor negative affect but drinking up to 5 drinks a week is okay.
And if you can solve the social problem of drinking and driving you would further lower the risk of drinking.
I also don’t understand how in the conclusion they say the safest level of drinking is none when their chart and date in the only shows 0 to .8 drinks per week show the lowest risk.
How is alcohol being deregualated? There still seems to be a lot of rules around the sale and public consumption of alcohol. Heck, i can't take my kids to brunch at the pub on the weekend because they might witness someone having a beer.
The rules got changed here in B.C. Children are usually welcomed now. Its up to the Pubs if they will allow them to. Most pubs here do but the ones open later will only allow children till 9p.m..
It was changed to please the tourist industry. Alot of visitors from Europe would consistently complain about not being able to go to places because kids were not permitted. Being tourism is the biggest industry here they obviously were going to change it.
In the same sweep the made it legal for grocery stores to sell wine aswell. It was a few years ago the changes were made but I have yet to find a store to sell it yet.
In the same sweep the made it legal for grocery stores to sell wine aswell. It was a few years ago the changes were made but I have yet to find a store to sell it yet.
Have any of the grocery stores actually started carrying wine and beer? I haven't seen any in Vic so far.
