10-03-2017, 05:08 PM
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#81
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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I really don't get the "I'd rather see him in Stockton than on the 4th line" crowd. I'd agree if he was younger, but he's 23 and has already excelled at the AHL level. Last year, the Flames 4th liners averaged between 11 and 13 minutes per game ... at this point, I'd rather see Janko play 12 meaningful minutes in the NHL than play in the AHL again.
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10-03-2017, 05:09 PM
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#82
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Franchise Player
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What is the over/under of when he's back in Calgary. Game 5?
Let's face it -- we still need to make room for Jagr so it's not like we've finalized our roster for the season and Janko will spend the whole year in Stockton. Give it a week or two and I suspect everything will fall into place.
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10-03-2017, 05:16 PM
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#83
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Scoring Winger
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Would much rather have Jankowski play wing on the 3rd line than be forced back to Stockton. Jankowski-Bennett-Jagr would be a dangerous 3rd line. Glass-Stajan-Verteeg would be the 4th line and waive Brouwer and send him to the Ahl if you can't trade him.
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10-03-2017, 05:16 PM
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#84
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvp2003
What is the over/under of when he's back in Calgary. Game 5?
Let's face it -- we still need to make room for Jagr so it's not like we've finalized our roster for the season and Janko will spend the whole year in Stockton. Give it a week or two and I suspect everything will fall into place.
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Only way is if a injury or trade occurs in my opinion.
Or if Bennett really struggles....
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10-03-2017, 05:26 PM
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#85
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvp2003
What is the over/under of when he's back in Calgary. Game 5?
Let's face it -- we still need to make room for Jagr so it's not like we've finalized our roster for the season and Janko will spend the whole year in Stockton. Give it a week or two and I suspect everything will fall into place.
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creating room for Jagr is simple - they just assign Hathaway to Stockton. Done.
Jankowski simply gets shafted because two depth forwards have NTCs and huge contracts, another one is on the team for being a brother, another one is safe because they traded a 2nd for him and another one is there for good old truculence. IMO Janko is better and has earned a spot over all of them and just an unfortunate victim of the numbers game ... probably takes an injury or two before he's back. And that sucks because he's really earned a spot.
Last edited by devo22; 10-03-2017 at 05:28 PM.
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10-03-2017, 05:29 PM
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#86
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Jore
glass and bartkowski on the opening day roster in 2017, just lmao
if jankowski does indeed stay down, it would be horrific judgment and decision-making. let's see how it plays out in the next week.
meanwhile, with a fourth line of glass/stajan/lazar, it looks like the flames want to repeat last year's season opening strategy of 'let's spot teams points when they can get their good players against our character pto leaders'
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Surprising that so many fans seem to misunderstand what role an energy/grinding line is going to play on a team
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10-03-2017, 05:31 PM
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#87
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by devo22
creating room for Jagr is simple - they just assign Hathaway to Stockton. Done.
Jankowski simply gets shafted because two depth forwards have NTCs and huge contracts, another one is on the team for being a brother, another one is safe because they traded a 2nd for him and another one is there for good old truculence. IMO Janko is better and has earned a spot over all of them and just an unfortunate victim of the numbers game ... probably takes an injury or two before he's back. And that sucks because he's really earned a spot.
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Or maybe they put Glass on waivers for the purpose of sending him to Stockton after tomorrow's game. He's only making what? 650,000??
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10-03-2017, 05:34 PM
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#88
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Surprising that so many fans seem to misunderstand what role an energy/grinding line is going to play on a team
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Unless you can reliably prove that any line employing Tanner Glass is going to lead to more wins or playoff wins, you're basically not saying anything other than "this thing exists. You must misunderstand it because you disagree with it". Cue appeals to authority, size fetishism, pseudo-deterrence, and probably a few ad hominem attacks in 3...2...1...
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10-03-2017, 05:35 PM
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#89
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Generally players who are in the running for the Calder trophy play more than the 26 games we afforded Micheal Ferland three years ago, the 31 games we afforded Markus Granlund two years ago, the 21 games we afforded Brett Kulak last year, or the 26 games we afforded Garnet Hathaway last year.
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A rare quad!
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10-03-2017, 05:35 PM
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#90
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Add this to the list of bad moves by Treliving
Flames won't ever learn from this mistake. They just make it over and over. May as well withdraw from the draft entirely at this rate as they clearly arent interested in developing players.
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10-03-2017, 05:45 PM
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#91
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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It's amazing how this is going to be the first season in history where the Flames don't make any trades or have any injuries to any of their forwards.
Sure it sucks that Jankowski will be forced to spend the whole season in the AHL because of it, but still it's frickin' amazing.
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10-03-2017, 05:47 PM
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#92
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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nm.
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10-03-2017, 05:48 PM
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#93
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Originally Posted by Karl
What???  Highly doubt that will happen. |
Whoosh.
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10-03-2017, 05:49 PM
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#94
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by CampbellsTransgressions
Add this to the list of bad moves by Treliving
Flames won't ever learn from this mistake. They just make it over and over. May as well withdraw from the draft entirely at this rate as they clearly arent interested in developing players.
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LOL @ withdrawing from draft - as was pointed out earlier today or yesterday 7 of our top 9 were drafted and developed by the Flames
I'm not happy about this either but I have faith that Treliving will be making moves to open up a spot for Jankowski, likely before the home opener on Saturday.
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10-03-2017, 05:54 PM
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#95
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Boxed-in
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Surprising that so many fans seem to misunderstand what role an energy/grinding line is going to play on a team
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Describe it for us.
This is just a buzzword used to highlight that these cheap, low skill players have some useful qualities. "They can't score, but MAN these guys sure have a lot of energy!"
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10-03-2017, 05:54 PM
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#96
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Vancouver
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Too bad our season opener will be missing 2 key guys for the Flames, but if they can steal a win in Edmonton I like the chances for success in the first 20 games (relative to past years). Once Jagr & Jankowski slot into their permanent spots in the lineup I think the whole teams confidence will grow to believing anything (and everything) is possible. My intuition tells me Jagr signed with us because we have the best outside chance of going all the way compared to his other suitors. Why else would he endure the western conference travel, cold winter, increased fan scrutiny, and higher Canadian taxes?
Either way, I'm optimistic. Go Flames!
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10-03-2017, 05:55 PM
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#97
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Calgary
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Terrible decision.
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10-03-2017, 05:56 PM
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#98
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Originally Posted by getbak
It's amazing how this is going to be the first season in history where the Flames don't make any trades or have any injuries to any of their forwards.
Sure it sucks that Jankowski will be forced to spend the whole season in the AHL because of it, but still it's frickin' amazing.
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How many games did Stockton's top forward play in the NHL last year due to injury call ups and trades?
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10-03-2017, 05:59 PM
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#99
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Sutter_in_law
LOL @ withdrawing from draft - as was pointed out earlier today or yesterday 7 of our top 9 were drafted and developed by the Flames
I'm not happy about this either but I have faith that Treliving will be making moves to open up a spot for Jankowski, likely before the home opener on Saturday.
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Lol @ being intellectually dishonest. The Flames can draft in the top 10 just like every other team, but they certainly have not demonstrated any ability to develop players.
Our draft record would certainly suggest that Gaudreau was a fluke of a pick. As for Giordano, the Flames are so bad at developing players that they initially let him go.
So that leaves Brodie and Backlund, one of which is a first rounder and took 10 years to develop only to miss his draft-time potential and the other a #2 D at best but no doubt is evidence that the Flames have successfully developed a player at least once.
Last edited by CampbellsTransgressions; 10-03-2017 at 06:06 PM.
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10-03-2017, 06:00 PM
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#100
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Cube Inmate
Describe it for us.
This is just a buzzword used to highlight that these cheap, low skill players have some useful qualities. "They can't score, but MAN these guys sure have a lot of energy!"
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The "cheap, low skill players" is what fans say. Players, like Iginla for instance, say they play like they are 5 feet taller when they have a fighter in the lineup. So, according to professional hockey players, they serve a purpose.
I look forward, like many, to the day where they don't. But in todays NHL, they still do, unfortunately.
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