Chester Bennington dead at 41

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

Her biggest crime is making Linkin Park relevant again.

I’m hoping relevant is a stretch. I watched a minute or two of the “concert” and it was kinda cringe, nobody seemed into it. Trying to get clapping going and having nobody join in is yuck.

The new song sounds genuinely bad, even just for a Linkin Park song. But it’s been like 20 years since they were actually relevant and 21 years since an album that anybody actually cared about so I feel like this is all sort of a “trying to make fetch happen” scenario.

Originally Posted by Locke

1. Took her a while. I generally distrust people who only apologize after they get caught.

2. Still a Scientologist. Sort of 'nuff said on that point.

Considering it was an actual victim and former scientologist as one of the people that brought the issue with this lady forward, I’m inclined to believe she probably hasn’t actually apologized to like… anyone… and that the person probably has a good idea of the type of person she is.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Considering it was an actual victim and former scientologist as one of the people that brought the issue with this lady forward, I’m inclined to believe she probably hasn’t actually apologized to like… anyone… and that the person probably has a good idea of the type of person she is.

Well...that how Twitter apologies tend to work.

They're more than a little 'backhanded.'

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

The new song sounds genuinely bad, even just for a Linkin Park song. But it’s been like 20 years since they were actually relevant and 21 years since an album that anybody actually cared about so I feel like this is all sort of a “trying to make fetch happen” scenario.

So I guess they weren't relevant when they were selling out arenas and headlining festivals 10-15 years after the early days of Hybrid Theory/Meteora?

Maybe you didn't like anything they did after those days, and that's fine, but saying they haven't been relevant in 20 years is just laughable at best.

You should also check in to see how their other albums did and where the other ones rank in terms of the favorites among the die hard LP fans. You might be surprised in the results.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by Locke

I really liked Linkin Park and this song didn't really do anything for me.

But it takes time for a band with a new lead singer to find their footing, so I'll give it a whirl.

Chester Bennington though? Those are some big shoes...

Shame about the Scientology stuff though.

She will never fill the shoes and I don't think anyone is expecting her to. No one is ever gonna hear her do an old LP song and think "wow, she's better than Chester on this one". It's just not gonna happen.

This is just a new chapter for the band. They waited a long time since Chester and want to explore new avenues. Good for them.

I've had the new song on repeat the last two days.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

So I guess they weren't relevant when they were selling out arenas and headlining festivals 10-15 years after the early days of Hybrid Theory/Meteora?

Maybe you didn't like anything they did after those days, and that's fine, but saying they haven't been relevant in 20 years is just laughable at best.

You should also check in to see how their other albums did and where the other ones rank in terms of the favorites among the die hard LP fans. You might be surprised in the results.

Nickelback still sells out arenas.

[DownInFlames]

You just got Pepsied!

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Nickelback still sells out arenas.

I guess we have different definitions of the word irrelevant.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

You just got Pepsied!

Hook, line and sinker. You could see it about to happen and then it happened.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by fotze2

Hook, line and sinker. You could see it about to happen and then it happened.

Oh, so this is common? I've been had.

Yeah, trolling on message boards is awesome. Builds great character.

[PepsiFree]

Come on guys, calling Linkin Park irrelevant is hardly trolling and commenting on my character over a band opinion means you should probably just grow up.

[dammage79]

Irrelevant to you, is what you mean.

Unsure where the irrelevancy of Linkin Park comes from but I assure anyone who thinks that. They're wrong.

I HATE Linkin Park. Always have, never was my particular cup of tea. Right at the top.of my do not listen to list along side Nickelback, Megadeth and Mudvayne. But that does not mean they're irrelevant. In fact their comeback kind of states the opposite. There's obviously enough interest to release new music and tour.

Know who else sSHOULD be irrelevant? Creed. They're not, and Gen Z has breathed life into the once sun-dried ego of scott stapp. Now we have that back into the ether.

Linkin Park Never left.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Irrelevant to you, is what you mean.

Unsure where the irrelevancy of Linkin Park comes from but I assure anyone who thinks that. They're wrong.

I HATE Linkin Park. Always have, never was my particular cup of tea. Right at the top.of my do not listen to list along side Nickelback, Megadeth and Mudvayne. But that does not mean they're irrelevant. In fact their comeback kind of states the opposite. There's obviously enough interest to release new music and tour.

Know who else sSHOULD be irrelevant? Creed. They're not, and Gen Z has breathed life into the once sun-dried ego of scott stapp. Now we have that back into the ether.

Linkin Park Never left.

No, I mean irrelevant in the musical landscape or artistically relevant. There are indie bands you’ve never heard of that outsold their last album, which was their biggest selling in a decade at that point.

The ability to tour or release music isn’t a sign of relevance. A comeback isn’t the sign of relevance, nor is sticking around. It’s about whether they have anything meaningful to offer today artistically or otherwise.

It’s not like it should be a surprise. How many bands stay relevant for decades? Nobody was really talking about them or signing their praises before their singer died and it’s not like this song is what’s driving the conversation.

I guess my question might be: does anyone think Linkin Park is more musically relevant today than they were the day before this song came out?

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Nobody was really talking about them or signing their praises before their singer died

Keep on going, please. This is a hell of a look.

[DownInFlames]

I don't like Linkin Park and had no idea they were as huge as they were until the singer died. I figured they were a joke like Limp Bizkit and Creed. Sounds like he was a good guy, musical ability notwithstanding.

It's healthy not to take people's opinions of things you like personally. You probably hate what I listen to and that's perfectly fine with me.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Keep on going, please. This is a hell of a look.

What does this even mean?

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

I don't like Linkin Park and had no idea they were as huge as they were until the singer died. I figured they were a joke like Limp Bizkit and Creed. Sounds like he was a good guy, musical ability notwithstanding.

It's healthy not to take people's opinions of things you like personally. You probably hate what I listen to and that's perfectly fine with me.

I don’t care who likes them or not. I understand they’re not for everyone. No artist is.

I was commenting on the ridiculous takes about their relevancy that is being presented as fact but couldn’t be further from the truth.

You may not like them but that doesn’t make them irrelevant. Their big tours, record sales, awards and massive fan base makes them relevant. Their massive respect amongst their peers makes them relevant. And they had all that way before Chester passed away.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

What does this even mean?

Either:
1. Dude you're awesome!
2. Dude, you're such a jerk

The story was never clear..

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

I don’t care who likes them or not. I understand they’re not for everyone. No artist is.

I was commenting on the ridiculous takes about their relevancy that is being presented as fact but couldn’t be further from the truth.

You may not like them but that doesn’t make them irrelevant. Their big tours, record sales, awards and massive fan base makes them relevant. Their massive respect amongst their peers makes them relevant. And they had all that way before Chester passed away.

About 10-12 years before?

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

About 10-12 years before?

No. They were doing all that well after Hybrid Theory/Meteora days. Just because you didn’t like or didn’t know about what they did after 02-03 doesn’t make what they were doing irrelevant.

I really do think we have different definitions of the word. So be it.

[DownInFlames]

Their record sales nosedived around that time, and they stopped getting awards noms too. They might have sold out arenas but lots of legacy acts do. Motley Crue still does and they haven't been relevant for thirty years.