View Poll Results: Should the Flames consider bringing Iggy back?
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12-11-2016, 12:03 PM
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#81
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
Keep in mind Iggy signed with the Avs after they won their division lead by super rookie Nate Mackinnon, with youngsters Matt Duchene, Ryan O'Rielly, and Gabe
Landeskog.
That was the Avs unsustainable year and they let Stastny walk that summer.
Not the best team to sign with but it made a bit of sense at the time
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This. Anybody hating on his decision needs to understand this. The Avs looked like a promising team under Roy that year with tons of youngsters who looked like future superstars.
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12-11-2016, 12:04 PM
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#82
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by calgarygeologist
That move might have to come from ownership or something.
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The last thing ownership should be doing is making moves like that.
Do you want a dumpster fire? Because that's how you get a dumpster fire.
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12-11-2016, 12:10 PM
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#83
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Franchise Player
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I agree that with everyone that Iggy isn't the same calibre player that he was at his prime or even a couple years ago but I do believe that he will be a significant contributor to any team on a playoff run. He'll find an extra gear for what is likely his last chance at a Stanley Cup.
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12-11-2016, 12:11 PM
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#84
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Machiavelli
You should always be looking to improve your team, but Iginla at this stage of his career doesn't do that
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This is the sad reality. Love Iggy. I hope he gets a cup before he retires. But he doesn't really help us accomplish that goal.
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12-11-2016, 12:15 PM
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#85
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
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The people who want him here want him here for selfish reasons. Iginla isn't an upgrade on a single player on this team and would literally add nothing.
He's 39 years old and there isn't much left in the tank. Time to let it go.
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12-11-2016, 12:17 PM
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#86
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by dying4acup
Bouma has a year left. So does Stajan.
Either you trade Wideman and retain a few bucks, or you trade Smid and they retain a few bucks. Don't see much else.
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And you are going to convince Wideman to waive his NMC to join the crappy Av's how exactly? I would rather keep Wideman over bringing in Iggy anyhow, he has his gafs but he has actually not been bad lately.
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12-11-2016, 12:17 PM
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#87
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vancouver
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It could make sense in some ways. Flames need scoring RW, and some help on the powerplay. Would be cheap to acquire.
However I think expectations would have to be managed all around. Iginla would be a role player and maybe even be in and out of the lineup at times.
But I understand the hesitation, his best days are clearly behind him. He doesn't have the pace anymore.
As for this dressing room talk, sounds like a bunch of nonsense to me. Iginla is one of the most respected players of his generation, and has never been anything but pure class. He's not the type of guy who would show up expecting the captaincy and run the locker room. He's played for 3 teams since the Flames and accepted his role at all 3 from what I can tell. The guy has been one of the most humble players in the league for 2 decades and still certain people are worried that he's some sort of primadonna. Its completely illogical.
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12-11-2016, 12:18 PM
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#88
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
The people who want him here want him here for selfish reasons. Iginla isn't an upgrade on a single player on this team and would literally add nothing.
He's 39 years old and there isn't much left in the tank. Time to let it go.
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I'm not so certain that that is entirely true.
There are lots of legitimate reasons to not want Iginla back, but its not like many successful Cup Winning teams dont have that one old grey-beard who manages to make a meaningful contribution at key moments.
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12-11-2016, 12:20 PM
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#89
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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Originally Posted by calgarygeologist
I agree that with everyone that Iggy isn't the same calibre player that he was at his prime or even a couple years ago but I do believe that he will be a significant contributor to any team on a playoff run. He'll find an extra gear for what is likely his last chance at a Stanley Cup.
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Completely agree just so long as the fans expectations are tempered Iggy wouldn't be the take over a shift kind of player like he was but he would be a great depth player and still has that ability to find open space for his quick wrist shot and always has been a smooth passer.
Iginla has lasted in the NHL not just because of his shot, supreme physical conditioning but he always has had a high hockey IQ.
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12-11-2016, 12:22 PM
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#90
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
The people who want him here want him here for selfish reasons. Iginla isn't an upgrade on a single player on this team and would literally add nothing.
He's 39 years old and there isn't much left in the tank. Time to let it go.
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12-11-2016, 12:25 PM
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#91
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
And you are going to convince Wideman to waive his NMC to join the crappy Av's how exactly? I would rather keep Wideman over bringing in Iggy anyhow, he has his gafs but he has actually not been bad lately.
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Agree there is no chance Wideman waives to go to the Avs. Maybe if they told him they had a 2 year $8-$10M deal if he accepts a trade. Even then Wideman is playing top 4 on a pretty good team right now. If we lose him it puts Engellend back in the top 4 and significantly hurts our defensive depth
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12-11-2016, 12:31 PM
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#92
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Originally Posted by Locke
I'm not so certain that that is entirely true.
There are lots of legitimate reasons to not want Iginla back, but its not like many successful Cup Winning teams dont have that one old grey-beard who manages to make a meaningful contribution at key moments.
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Ray Bourque is the only one that comes to mind that made a signifcant contribution to winning a Cup. Bourque still had some game left in him but I doubt Iggy has.
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12-11-2016, 12:31 PM
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#93
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: The toilet of Alberta : Edmonton
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Iggy's just too slow these days, other than use as a PP specialist I don't see where he fits. He wouldn't be an upgrade on Brouwer or Frolik. Maybe there's a case for Chaisson but he just doesn't have the foot speed to keep up with Gaudreau and Bennett when they like to create off the rush. He has more skill than Hathaway but will not be nearly as relentless a forechecker and I love the dynamic Hathaway has brought. Barring an injury, I just don't see where you slot him in.
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12-11-2016, 12:46 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Dion
Ray Bourque is the only one that comes to mind that made a signifcant contribution to winning a Cup. Bourque still had some game left in him but I doubt Iggy has.
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Recchi had 14 points in 25 games for the Bruins in the 2011 playoffs, at the age of 43.
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12-11-2016, 12:49 PM
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#95
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Dion
Ray Bourque is the only one that comes to mind that made a signifcant contribution to winning a Cup. Bourque still had some game left in him but I doubt Iggy has.
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Really?
Matt Cullen last season immediately springs to mind.
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12-11-2016, 12:57 PM
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#96
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First Line Centre
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I'm all for a Bouma for Iginla. Especially if the Avs retain salary. Even if this trade does not work out this year I think it does for next yeat. I think it is time to move on from Bouma. Hathaway, Hamilton, Ferland, Jankowski, Porier are all knocking on the door. Only way I don't trade Bouma for Iginla is if they can land a quality pick from a different team for Bouma
And it seems like a lot of fans on here have forgotten that Iggy is a slow starter. I still think he can bring something to the table for a short run for the playoffs. Right now I bet Sakic would trade him for Bouma and a conditional pick if the Flames make the playoffs they get a 3rd just because it would be a classy move by Joe and he is a classy guy
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12-11-2016, 01:07 PM
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#97
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#1 Goaltender
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Why does Iginla have to come back as a top-12 forward? Why can't our lines be as follows:
Johnny-Bennett-xxxxx
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Ferland-Monahan-Brouwer
xxxxx-Stajan-xxxxx
where xxxxx could be any of:
Hathaway
Bouma
Iginla
Versteeg
Chiasson
Its incredibly unlikely were going to get through the playoffs - or even the rest of the regular season - without injuries to key players.
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12-11-2016, 01:08 PM
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#98
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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As much as my heart would love to see Iginla come home and win a cup here, my head isn't just saying no, it's screaming no and holding up giant red flags. Just not a good idea. It will create a power struggle and honestly he isn't an upgrade on RW anymore.
He'll likely always be my favourite player, but it makes no sense. Bad things happen when you start thinking with your heart.
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12-11-2016, 01:09 PM
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#99
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Franchise Player
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Iginla would be an upgrade on Chiasson. He gets fourth line minutes and PP time, that's all.
It's Gios team, full stop. Iggy has been around long enough to know that every player has a role, and roles need to be earned. I see zero dressing room problems coming from a rental player.
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12-11-2016, 01:14 PM
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#100
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
Jarome Iginla is one of the three best forwards of his generation. He nearly scored 50 points last year. In what could well be his last season in the NHL, he's playing out the string in November.
That can't feel good. But you bring him home and let Johnny feed him on the power play and see if that doesn't put a spring in his step.
For ####s sake people, we once brought back Craig Conroy, just because. And then made him Assistant GM, just because!
Get Iginla for the stretch drive, and then kick him upstairs to close the arena deal.
This will cost nothing. It's an easy decision.
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I'll have to think about it for a bit but my first impression is this is genius.
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