11-26-2014, 10:31 AM
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#81
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: City by the Bay
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
RNH
Gagner
Gordon
Horak
They would still suck, but at least it wouldn't be so ruinous on a freshly drafted rookie who can't keep up with the pace of the game.
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I didn't contemplate the Oilers positioning themselves to have the option to keep Draisaitl in junior for another year because...Oilers. At least your line up makes Draisaitl have to beat out other players for a spot.
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11-26-2014, 10:31 AM
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#82
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Calgary
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Anisomov pulls a kovalchuk and retires after this season taking yak with him back to the motherland
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11-26-2014, 10:32 AM
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#83
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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I still find it funny that they basically gave Draisaitl the 2C position, and I back that up with them trading away Gagner. They had and still have no back up plan, now they are screwed.
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11-26-2014, 10:32 AM
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#84
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
RNH
Gagner
Gordon
Horak
They would still suck, but at least it wouldn't be so ruinous on a freshly drafted rookie who can't keep up with the pace of the game.
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They're always still going to suck, its just a matter of sucking less and that list of centres is vastly superior to the quagmire of suck they're running with now.
And the best part of that lineup is that they could have had it for FREE. It would have cost them nothing!
They could even still have had Purcell because Tampa wanted to catapult him into the moon!
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11-26-2014, 10:35 AM
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#85
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruttiger
Agree that Eberle is the big name that makes the most sense to move out. Wonder what a package of Eberle, Perron, and Schultz would net?
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That gets you Dion Phaneuf.
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11-26-2014, 10:45 AM
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#86
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy
Probably Weber and Forsberg. Nashville may have to add though.
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True enough. MacT did point out Schultz is a future Norris candidate. Norris Schultz.
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11-26-2014, 10:47 AM
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#87
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruttiger
Agree that Eberle is the big name that makes the most sense to move out. Wonder what a package of Eberle, Perron, and Schultz would net?
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Probably a pretty consistent -4 every night
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11-26-2014, 10:51 AM
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#88
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
You brought it up - what do you think it would fetch?
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I honestly have no idea. Not a Webber package obviously. Eberle's stock has definitely fallen somewhat - is it a blip, a reflection of his surroundings that a healthy, winning environment could turnaround?
Is Schultz the young defenceman that has had his confidence shattered but could still be a Dan Boyle - type effective rover in the right setting?
I honestly don't know. They're dealing from a position of extreme weakness, and at the end of the day, the return likely doesn't matter. Whoever would come back the other way would just be ruined by this franchise anyway.
Last edited by Ruttiger; 11-26-2014 at 12:04 PM.
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11-26-2014, 10:58 AM
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#89
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: City by the Bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _Q_
That gets you Dion Phaneuf.
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Well that's just great _Q_, now my hopes are up.
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11-26-2014, 11:09 AM
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#90
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Norm!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruttiger
I honestly have no idea. Not a Webber package obviously. Eberle's stock has definitely fallen somewhat - is it a blip, a reflection of his surroundings that a healthy, winning environment could turnaround?
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Wealth of talent, but softer then a down pillow, plus teams game plan for him now. He's a fairly easy guy to push to the outside.
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Originally Posted by Ruttiger
Is Schultz the young defenceman that has had his confidence shattered but could still be a Dan Boyle - type effective rover in the right setting?
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Dan Boyle, not a chance, he can be the next MAB but with a much softer shot. He has terrible attention to detail and no defensive IQ whatsoever, and that's not going to change. He's like that defenseman in slot hockey with a broken spring and hes stuck in a position facing his goalie and he whips up in down his slot out of his players frustration until they throw the whole table away. Because the spring is broken.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruttiger
I honestly don't know. They're dealing from a position of extreme weakness, and at the end of the day, the return likely doesn't matter. Whoever would come back the other day would just be ruined by this franchise anyway.
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At this point, anything that they get back is going to be far lower then fan expectations. But frankly they have to move some to shock the rest. The biggest fear is that the frustration boils over and some of these uber players go to management and demand to be moved. I can see that happening now that Eakins basically has a vote of confidence.
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11-26-2014, 11:24 AM
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#91
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruttiger
I honestly have no idea. Not a Webber package obviously. Eberle's stock has definitely fallen somewhat - is it a blip, a reflection of his surroundings that a healthy, winning environment could turnaround?
Is Schultz the young defenceman that has had his confidence shattered but could still be a Dan Boyle - type effective rover in the right setting?
I honestly don't know. They're dealing from a position of extreme weakness, and at the end of the day, the return likely doesn't matter. Whoever would come back the other day would just be ruined by this franchise anyway.
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That's the challenge. They are probably both far better than they are currently showing.
However:
1) it's a risk and by no means a certainty that either one of them is going to be anything close to the player they were originally projected to be
2) they both carry cap hits that are more commensurate with their
potential than their current reality, and
3) the Oilers are trading from a position of weakness.
Honestly, if I were the Oilers, I would be thinking that the best I could do would be a swap of 'potential', along with having to eat some bad contracts.
For me, Phaneuf for those two would be a good trade but I think Toronto would still want more.
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11-26-2014, 11:43 AM
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#92
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
That's the challenge. They are probably both far better than they are currently showing.
However:
1) it's a risk and by no means a certainty that either one of them is going to be anything close to the player they were originally projected to be
2) they both carry cap hits that are more commensurate with their
potential than their current reality, and
3) the Oilers are trading from a position of weakness.
Honestly, if I were the Oilers, I would be thinking that the best I could do would be a swap of 'potential', along with having to eat some bad contracts.
For me, Phaneuf for those two would be a good trade but I think Toronto would still want more.
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I think if Toronto had a chance to be rid of Dion and bring back Eberle and Schultz at the same time, Nonis would need to strap on a mansiere before sprinting down the hall to fax that trade to the league office.
Shultz is on a 1 year deal and you can ditch him of you think he's broken beyond repair. Eberle needs a change of scenery, and even though he hasn't produced as much in recent memory, he doesn't have the history of critical leg injuries Phaneuf does.
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11-26-2014, 11:52 AM
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#93
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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Does Phaneuf have an immediate, full NMC?
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11-26-2014, 11:53 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fonz
Does Phaneuf have an immediate, full NMC?
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according to capgeek he has to submit a list of 12 teams he is willing to go to
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11-26-2014, 11:54 AM
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#95
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fonz
Does Phaneuf have an immediate, full NMC?
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on Capgeek it says
"NMC; Modified NTC (player submits 12-team trade list)"
EDIT: sureLoss'd
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11-26-2014, 12:57 PM
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#96
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
according to capgeek he has to submit a list of 12 teams he is willing to go to
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Hopefully he doesn't put down the Flames.
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11-26-2014, 01:57 PM
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#98
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
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Ugh. A Sutter playing for Edmonton. I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.
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11-26-2014, 01:58 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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per Bob Stauffer, Erixon is available and the BJs are unlikely to move Anisimov until Dubinsky comes back from injury.
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11-26-2014, 02:00 PM
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#100
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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we should trade for Erixon just so we can lend him to a team somewhere horrible in the world....like Edmonton.
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