Rumor Philadelphia interested in Glencross

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Whether or not they decide to trade Glenny, he needs to pick it up on the ice. That turnover last night was the worst I've seen in years. People are banging on McGrattan, but his play was higher in the zone and just didn't make it out. Glencross made a lazy poor decision down low, and he should know better than that.

If he keeps going like this there won't be much value to gain at the deadline.

[Flames89]

Glencross is pouty and by no means leadership material. However, he would make a great 2nd line winger.
His hometown discount and current cost makes him quite valuable to this team.

[FlamesAllTheWay]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Am i reading this right? You are saying that Glencross is worth both Schenns and a 1st?

LOL, come back to reality.

Also worth more than Iginla and Bouwmeester it looks like

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I think posters underestimate how much winning means to most players. The bolded part was the same stuff i heard for reasons that Iggy would never leave Calgary.

Also durring the year how much time does he spend on his ranch? I have to think very little.

Pure speculation on my part.

And as to your first sentence, I would guess Glencross doesn't fit under the "most" category. Sure he likes to win, but he could have gone somewhere at the deadline last year (according to Feaster) and has said (according to reports) that he wants to be part of the rebuild. That, combined with the money he left on the table in exchange for the NMC and lots speculation that he won't waive (most recently, Warrener), makes me think that staying local is more important that chasing a cup or a big payday.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Here is a link to the speculation:

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/...xFaf5q9qOQY.99

One name the Flyers have been kicking around is winger Curtis Glencross, who has been playing on Calgary's first line. Glencross, 30, netted 26 points in 40 games last season. He has 24- and 26-goal seasons on his resume, he's consistent, and he's one of the few players on Calgary's roster to play a gritty game.

When he's on his game, sure, but for the first 3 games of this season he's actually been one of the least gritty forwards on the team.

Not just because he was the goat last night, but if the price is right you trade him.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by FlamesAllTheWay

I agree with that. The 960 guys were also implying it might be somewhat disrespectful for the Flames to even approach Glencross about it after he helped us out and signed that huge hometown discount. However, to that I reply "Brian Burke" as he has emotional or business attachment to any of the players at this point.

I love what Glencross can do when he's on his game. Problem is he's not always on. Further, he can be a liability when he's not. So by all means explore trade options and if the right deal comes along go ahead and ask him about waiving the NTC.

If Philly gets him they will extend him probably the carrot that gets him to waive.

Like Toronto wanted to do with Kipper.

If he can get another $10 million guaranteed from a 2-3 year extension who cares about the ranch? Buy one in Penn.

[JiriHrdina]

Worth noting that the Fan960 was passing on a rumor from a Philly beat reporter - not saying that Philly had interest in Glencross themselves. In fact they largely dismissed the rumors because of the NMC and how unlikely it is that Glencross would waive it.

[SuperMatt18]

Tough start for Glencross overall, he was brutal in preseason too. Lots of giveaways, sloppy play, and lazy play and that has carried over to the regular season.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

If Philly gets him they will extend him probably the carrot that gets him to waive.

Like Toronto wanted to do with Kipper.

If he can get another $10 million guaranteed from a 2-3 year extension who cares about the ranch? Buy one in Penn.

Because he can't get that when he's a UFA? Protect against injury, sure, but I don't think that's a carrot for Glencross.

And they can't officially extend him until next season anyways...

[Calgary4LIfe]

According to the article I posted, the Flyers have been scouting the Flames and the Flames have been scouting the Flyers. There definitely is smoke there - whether it be Glencross or other players, there seems to be at least a mutual interest there.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Am i reading this right? You are saying that Glencross is worth both Schenns and a 1st?

LOL, come back to reality.

What is the difference of Luke Schenn at 3.6 and 2010-12 Corey Sarich at 3.6M?

From 2010-12 Sarich was one of most criticized Flames. He was not a top 4 d-man and getting paid top 3 money. He was behind Butler. He had negative trade value.

Right now Luke is Philly's #6 : TImmonen, Coburn, Streit, Mezzaros and Grossman and then Schenn.

I would rather trade Glencross for Brayden Schenn and their 2014 1st but taking Luke off their hands helps them in their cap problem.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

What is the difference of Luke Schenn at 3.6 and 2010-12 Corey Sarich at 3.6M?

From 2010-12 Sarich was one of most criticized Flames. He was not a top 4 d-man and getting paid top 3 money.

I would rather trade Glencross for Brayden Schenn and their 2014 1st but taking Luke off their hands helps them in their cap problem.

About 10 years of age. Luke has not hit his ceiling yet as a player in my opinion. He is around the same age as Regehr when Reggie really started to play great

[Ozy_Flame]

I couldn't give two hoots if he's an Alberta boy and has roots around here. He's an NHL player first and a country bumpkin second. If we can improve this team by moving him out, you do it.

I too am tiring quickly on his inability to overcome his lazy play. It's been the one consistent for an otherwise inconsistent player IMO.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

According to the article I posted, the Flyers have been scouting the Flames and the Flames have been scouting the Flyers. There definitely is smoke there - whether it be Glencross or other players, there seems to be at least a mutual interest there.

They are definitely a cap crunched team and have several players the Flaems could have interest in

Schenn's, Couturier, Simmonds, Coburn, Read, Voracek

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by ThePrince

I'm so glad our management don't make decisions based on one play or such small sample sizes.

It's not one play. Glencross is a very undisciplined player. He's not the kind of guy you want providing 'leadership' on a young team where any success will come from playing hard every shift and being extremely disciplined about defensive responsibilities and penalties.

I'd do Glencross for Luke Schenn straight across. Glencross' value at the deadline will be maybe a late first. You're pretty happy if a late first develops into a 4th defenseman, and at 23 Schenn is past the growing pains part of his development, and five years ahead of where a player drafted in 2014 would be.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

About 10 years of age. Luke has not hit his ceiling yet as a player in my opinion. He is around the same age as Regehr when Reggie really started to play great

True ... when Regehr was Luke's age he was the best defensive D-man in the world.

Regehr was basically a top 4 d-man from age 20. He also was making less than 2M / year until 2006/07. In 2003/04 at age 23 he made 1.2M as the best Flames D-man in the playoff run.

Luke has a way to go. This is his 6th NHL season. After being untradeable from the Leafs he worked his way to the 5/6 role in year 4 coming off his ELC.

[blankall]

Philly would be a great trading partner. They have a long history of arbitrarily trading great young talent. Glencross at 30, does not, agewise, fit where the team is heading. If Philly offers an equivalent player who is 25 or younger, we should be all over that.

Don't see the logic in including Sven in any of the trades. However, if Glencross agrees to waive, Philly has a slew of forwards under the age of 25, I'd gladly give up Glencross for. Glencross is also one of my favorite Flames.

[Dagger]

Actually come to think of it, wouldn't be surprised to see a Sven for B. Schenn trade of some sorts. We know BB loves Schenn and has not exactly been Sven's biggest fan publicly. Not saying it'll happen, just that I won't go into shock should that occur.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

I gotta ask, would you give up a 1st and a prospect for Glencross?

Uhh, obviously not if I was the Flames, considering that 1st is likely to be top 5.

But a playoff team (ex. the Blues 1st pick last season) would most certainly give that and more for a player like Glencross.

[Stealth22]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Probably could have kept this in the trade speculation thread IMO. But I will bite

Glennie, Butler and Sven for the Schenns and a 4th

Originally Posted by 4oh3

Baertschi

No.