06-30-2013, 02:21 PM
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#81
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Albany, NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Schneider is going to be a number 1 goalie in New Jersey, he's also going to study at the feet of the master for a year.
Horvat was an ok pick, but I think he tops as a bottom 6 guy on a good team. Which means in Vancouver he'll probably be a top 6 guy when that core gets exploded.
But he's not a great pick.
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Agree 100% -- I was terrified that the Flames would take him, with Feaster intoning something about "size and character." Less than a point a game in the OHL? That's not going to be a top-6 player on a quality team, and that's not enough for someone who's been an elite goaltender 2 years in a row.
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06-30-2013, 02:25 PM
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#82
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
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glad we missed on that one....would have to assume Van was looking at getting the 6 from us...
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06-30-2013, 02:28 PM
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#83
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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So unless something changes NJ won't make a 1st round pick for the next 2 years... 2014 pick is forfeited because of Kovalchuk
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06-30-2013, 02:29 PM
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#84
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Lifetime Suspension
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I think the trade would have been disappointing for Van even if they DID use the opportunity to take a top 5 talent in Nichuskin. They didn't. Lou fleeces Gillis here and given his epic mishandling of the whole situation Gillis should be out the door in Vancouver. Just an epic fail.
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06-30-2013, 02:29 PM
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#85
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Abbotsford, BC
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I'm glad that the Flames were in on Schneider as I think he can be an elite goalie for at least another 6 years, but I'm sure the asking price was ridiculous.
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06-30-2013, 02:31 PM
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#86
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Franchise Player
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Brad Ziemer @BradZiemer 2m
Luongo's realtor tells me his Vancouver condo, listed for $4.2 million, has not sold. So he's got that going for him. #Canucks #nhldraft
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06-30-2013, 02:32 PM
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#87
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Franchise Player
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LeBrun says CBus was the 4th team
so once they dropped out it was in division or the devils
glad Gills chose the Devils
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06-30-2013, 02:32 PM
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#88
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Lifetime Suspension
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I imagine the discussions with CGY / EDM would've been the first rounder plus a good prospect (not Sven but maybe Brossoit or Johnny)
On the plus side for the Flames they don't have to play against Schneider who I think will be a top 10 goalie in the league for the next 6 years at least.
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06-30-2013, 02:33 PM
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#89
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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I guess it's an okay deal for the Canucks, but I don't see how it improves them in the next couple of years. I still think they gave up two good years that they could have won, and now have acquired a player who won't help them until their current group are no longer able to be the guys carrying the load. Might help them be a playoff type team for a couple extra years, but the no cup jokes will live for a few more years.
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06-30-2013, 02:35 PM
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#90
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
I guess it's an okay deal for the Canucks, but I don't see how it improves them in the next couple of years. I still think they gave up two good years that they could have won, and now have acquired a player who won't help them until their current group are no longer able to be the guys carrying the load. Might help them be a playoff type team for a couple extra years, but the no cup jokes will live for a few more years.
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I actually don't know about this. Horvat's like 215lbs, isn't he? He's reportedly quite mature. The Canucks have no third line centre. I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see him compete for a roster spot in training camp, and put him on the track Ryan Kesler was on (he played bottom 6 for his first couple of years).
EDIT: Nevermind, 205, read it wrong. Still, he has the size to play with men.
Last edited by 19Yzerman19; 06-30-2013 at 02:40 PM.
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06-30-2013, 02:37 PM
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#91
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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I wonder how Luongo feels right now. He clearly wanted out and wasn't informed of this deal.
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06-30-2013, 02:38 PM
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#92
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In the Sin Bin
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Based on @LOLVancouver's re-tweets, Canuck fans are not taking the fact that Schneider wasn't worth what they were expecting very well.
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06-30-2013, 02:40 PM
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#93
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Stoooooopid Coilers !!!
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06-30-2013, 02:40 PM
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#94
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire
I'm glad that the Flames were in on Schneider as I think he can be an elite goalie for at least another 6 years, but I'm sure the asking price was ridiculous.
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aren't we supposed to have the two best goalies outside of the NHL in Ramo and Berra? Add in Broissant and Ortio, and it seems like a position that was overstocked... or oversold.
Glad we picked Monahan.
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06-30-2013, 02:43 PM
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#95
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pitt Meadows
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I like the Horvat pick, but they should have gotten Jon Merril or Urbom as well...
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06-30-2013, 02:43 PM
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#96
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Based on @LOLVancouver's re-tweets, Canuck fans are not taking the fact that Schneider wasn't worth what they were expecting very well.
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I think that's a pretty good return for a goaltender that isn't 100% proven and has backstopped a team that has benefitted from playing in the worst division in hockey for years now. I tend to think that playing behind the Canucks defense will improve most goaltenders numbers.
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06-30-2013, 02:44 PM
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#97
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Lol please Luongo say you don't want to go back..........
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06-30-2013, 02:44 PM
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#98
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Lifetime Suspension
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TSN reporting that Gillis hasnt spoken to Luongo yet? Haha! What a mess.
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06-30-2013, 02:44 PM
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#99
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Guarantee Luongo is still going to want out of Van.
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06-30-2013, 02:45 PM
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#100
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Market Mall Food Court
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OILFAN #81
Lol please Luongo say you don't want to go back..........
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Unless he wants to be put on waivers. Because he has absolutely ZERO trade value. The canucks will prob have to give up Horvat to dump Luigi. hahahahaha
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