where does Iggy play next?

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Adrian Dater says the Avs may make an offer to Iginla:
http://sulia.com/channel/colorado-av...-2e6107b00377/

The AVS really like picking up former division captains for their team in Ryan Smyth and Iginla.

I do see Colorado being a very good fit in Colorado. Maybe we can then trade Tanguay for Avs 2nd.

Tanguay+Wideman for Stastny+2nd is also a good proposal
Douglas Murray from FA

Tanguay-Duchene-Iginla
Landeskog-O'Reilly-Parenteau
McLeod-McGinn-Jones
Bordeleau-Mitchell-Kobasew

Wideman-E.Johnson
Murray-S.Jones
Zanon-Wilson
Hejda

Varlamov
Giguerre

[Enoch Root]

I agree that he belongs in the western conference. I think he will most likely end up in the western division (or whatever it will be called).

LA, Ana, Van, Colorado, Edm or Phx (yes, I know Phx won't be in that div, just listing them as another possible destination)

I think LA is the most likely. Sutter, as much as anyone, knows what Iginla can do and Sutter can also recognize that Iginla's play was more a case of not fitting in and playing without confidence than him being washed up. Obviously, Sutter isn't the GM but it's not like they don't talk or anything.

On a side note, it never ceases to amaze me how often big name players go to a new team at the deadline and simply don't fit in. It seems to fail more often than it succeeds.

[TurnedTheCorner]

Iginla should retire. The body isn't willing and by all appearances his heat isn't in it.

Best Calgary Flame ever though.

[really?]

Not sure about retirement, but if Iggy is to have any success going forward he will have to be willing to retool his game. I can't see him being a 3rd liner, doesn't have the wheels for that in today's game, and at most he is going to be a second line sniper type. He's going to have to accept a greater role defensively if he wants to be effective, and I don't see teams paying him $5 million plus when there are faster, possibly more hungry options available.

I think he would be a good fit in San Jose if they retain Marleau and Thornton and he is willing to accept $4-$5 million on a one/two year deal.

[jeffman]

Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

Iginla should retire. The body isn't willing and by all appearances his heat isn't in it.

Best Calgary Flame ever though.

There were times when players like Selanne and jagr looked disinterested and unmotivated, but they eventually found teams that reinvigorated them. I don't think Iggys done yet he simply needs to retool his game or find some place that is exciting for him to play in, then the success will come back naturally

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by moon

I know the cool thing is to crap on Iginla and talk about how people "knew he was done 3 years ago" but the fact is the guy had a very good season, was one of the top scorers in the play-offs, played much better than most give him credit for and would be a great fit in the top 6 in LA or Bos, or pretty much any contending team in the league.

Look back on this forum and some people here did recognize Iginla had become a declining, one-dimensional player three years ago. What's funny is how many people only made that realization watching him play in a Penguins uniform.

Contending teams look for playoff performers. Iginla is not the kind of player you want in a war with LA, Chicago, or Boston. At the deadline he had the benefit of the doubt about his floating, slowing, perimeter style in Calgary - maybe he'd turn it around in a different environment. He won't enjoy that benefit of the doubt anymore - what you saw with the Penguins is what you get. Much better chance he goes to a middling team looking for a 2nd tier sniper and powerplay specialist. Canadian teams will probably appreciate his PR quality as well.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by The Eliminator

Any team that doesn't have a Jokinen. Pretty sure Iggy wouldn't have waived to go to the Pens if he knew a Jokinen was going to be on the team

What the F are you babbling about?

[moon]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Look back on this forum and some people here did recognize Iginla had become a declining, one-dimensional player three years ago. What's funny is how many people only made that realization watching him play in a Penguins uniform.

Contending teams look for playoff performers. Iginla is not the kind of player you want in a war with LA, Chicago, or Boston. At the deadline he had the benefit of the doubt about his floating, slowing, perimeter style in Calgary - maybe he'd turn it around in a different environment. He won't enjoy that benefit of the doubt anymore - what you saw with the Penguins is what you get. Much better chance he goes to a middling team looking for a 2nd tier sniper and powerplay specialist. Canadian teams will probably appreciate his PR quality as well.

Those people would have been wrong 3 years ago so no need to go back and read garbage posts.

Also what a team get us a guy who was top ten in play-off scoring and helped his team win two play-off series, pretty sure plenty if teams could use that.

Malkin, Crosby and Lrtamg were all garbage in the Bruins series but doubt teams wouldn't line up around the block, Chicago La Boston included, for a chance to get them.

Teams aren't dumb enough to make assessments about a guy based on one series where the whole team including coaching staff were awful.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by moon

Fits under the cap and is a fine team going forward.

No they don't. Just because you say so with no explanation of how does not make it so moon. At least ricardo showed numbers and had something to back his post up.

[Miniac]

Originally Posted by moon

Those people would have been wrong 3 years ago so no need to go back and read garbage posts.

Also what a team get us a guy who was top ten in play-off scoring and helped his team win two play-off series, pretty sure plenty if teams could use that.

Malkin, Crosby and Lrtamg were all garbage in the Bruins series but doubt teams wouldn't line up around the block, Chicago La Boston included, for a chance to get them.

Teams aren't dumb enough to make assessments about a guy based on one series where the whole team including coaching staff were awful.

Don't forget James Neal just absolute garbage all series.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by moon

I think he could be looked at to fill that void yes.

Understand that fine and also understand that you are vastly overrating the impact of that this summer.




Clifford, Muzzin, Lewis, Martinez are all easy re-signs for them and not targets of offer sheets because they aren't worth it.

Bernier is an easy re-sign and trade.

A team of:

Williams-Kopitar-Brown
Iginla- Richards-Carter
King-Stoll-Lewis
Toffoli-Fraser-Clifford with Nolan as 13th

Voynov-Doughty
Regher-Muzzin
Greene-Martinez
Ellerby

Fits under the cap and is a fine team going forward.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER

FORWARDS
Dwight King ($0.750m) / Anze Kopitar ($6.800m) / Justin Williams ($3.650m)
Trevor Lewis ($1.600m) / Mike Richards ($5.750m) / Dustin Brown ($3.175m)
Kyle Clifford ($1.600m) / Jeff Carter ($5.273m) /
Jordan Nolan ($0.800m) / Jarret Stoll ($3.250m) /
Tyler Toffoli ($0.870m) /
Colin Fraser ($0.825m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Drew Doughty ($7.000m) / Matt Greene ($2.950m)
Robyn Regehr ($3.000m) / Slava Voynov ($3.300m)
Keaton Ellerby ($0.735m) / Jake Muzzin ($1.600m)
Alec Martinez ($1.600m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Quick ($5.800m)
Leland Irving ($1.000m)
OTHER
Buried: Willie Mitchell ($2.575m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,902,727; BONUSES: $135,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $532,273

so this is your team without Iginla... they have about $3M left if they are totally able to get rid of Willie Mitchell's contract..... (Ie Buyout)

Just used Irving as a generic 1M backup goalie.


so this team gets rid of Scuderi, Penner, Richardson and Bernier and replaces with Iginla and is right at the cap IF Iginla signs for 3M.

Clifford, Muzzin, Lewis, Martinez are all easy re-signs for them and not targets of offer sheets because they aren't worth it.

They wouldn't be the Flames best moves in years at 1.6M for and a 3rd round pick?? What do you think the Flames will be paying RFA Backlund this coming year? Let him walk for less than 1.6M and cash in on the 3rd rounder? All of these guys have a better resume to-date and as much potential as Backlund.


This also assumes they can sign Voynov to a 3.3M deal.... (or lose to an offer sheet and get back a 2nd round pick) He likely would want somewhat more.... on a longer term...

If you are Ottawa and have the cap space: Offer 5M over 4 years to Voynov costing a 1st and a 3rd or Iginla for 4M as a UFA?

Either way LA will not be able to commit any reasonable offer to Iginla until they have Vonyov, Muzzin, Martinez, Lewis and Clifford in case they are forced to match.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Miniac

Don't forget James Neal just absolute garbage all series.

Neal was awful.

Just awful shot selection and puck management.

[Jables16]

Philly does their usual off-season mind boggling trades to shuffle guys around and free up cap space, buy out Bryz and Briere, and Iginla gets a chance to ride shotgun with Giroux. I hope anyway...

[SuperMatt18]

L. A. or Edmonton

[moon]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

No they don't. Just because you say so with no explanation of how does not make it so moon. At least ricardo showed numbers and had something to back his post up.

I never said it was just because I said it was.

I didn't know people wanted to see boring cap geek numbers but Ricardo shows how it works easily below.

If you want the cap geek numbers feel free to ask without trying to be a dick.

[ricardodw]

My new theory as to where Iginla goes.

He signs a 1 year 5-6 M contract with a team with with extra cap space.... Calgary, Dallas, Colorado, Nashville and has a NTC in that he can not be traded to a team that is not above 6th place in the conference standings at the time of the trade.

That way he can help a young team out and still be the STAR on that team and will be worth a #20-30 pick at the trade deadline to a team that thinks it has a chance in the playoffs.

At the trade deadline his cap hit will be manageable.


The Jagr gambit.

[Bourque's Twin]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

My new theory as to where Iginla goes.

He signs a 1 year 5-6 M contract with a team with with extra cap space.... Calgary, Dallas, Colorado, Nashville and has a NTC in that he can not be traded to a team that is not above 6th place in the conference standings at the time of the trade.

That way he can help a young team out and still be the STAR on that team and will be worth a #20-30 pick at the trade deadline to a team that thinks it has a chance in the playoffs.

At the trade deadline his cap hit will be manageable.


The Jagr gambit.

I don't think Iginla could fetch a 1st rounder anymore.

[moon]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

They wouldn't be the Flames best moves in years at 1.6M for and a 3rd round pick?? What do you think the Flames will be paying RFA Backlund this coming year? Let him walk for less than 1.6M and cash in on the 3rd rounder? All of these guys have a better resume to-date and as much potential as Backlund.

They would be terrible moves by the Flames because they don't need bottom 6/bottom pairing guys and don't need to give up 3rd round picks for them. When was the last time a meh guy like Trevor Lewis, Jason Muzzin or Alec Martinez were offer sheeted? Maybe Clifford, but even that is a huge stretch as he hasn't shown much offense at all to warrant overpaying and giving up assets for.

This also assumes they can sign Voynov to a 3.3M deal.... (or lose to an offer sheet and get back a 2nd round pick) He likely would want somewhat more.... on a longer term...

Thats more than what Subban got and Subban had shown a lot more than Voynov up to that point. I would use that as a marker if I am the Kings and offer 3 years around 10 million.

If you are Ottawa and have the cap space: Offer 5M over 4 years to Voynov costing a 1st and a 3rd or Iginla for 4M as a UFA?

If I am Ottawa I probably do neither but if forced to do one probably Iginla because I realize I have a strong defense, young team and questions up front. Overpaying for a defenseman and losing assets is a good way to screw up the future and goes against how the team was built.

Either way LA will not be able to commit any reasonable offer to Iginla until they have Vonyov, Muzzin, Martinez, Lewis and Clifford in case they are forced to match.

I am sure they can wait since as we have heard not a single team in the league would have interest in the ECHL level Iginla.

[1stLand]

If Iginla wants to remain in the NHL, he needs to take his off-season training more seriously.

He should train with Gary Roberts and spend less time golfing and hanging out in Kelowna.

If he so desperately wants to win a cup, then he needs to elevate his game next year and be the difference maker, instead of a peripheral player.

[Walter Reed]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

5.) Edmonton: Pretty much a longshot, but anything is possible I guess. Edmonton may be able to pay the most, and bringing in Iginla might do wonders for their dressing room (in theory). Iginla was born in the Edmonton area, and obviously has some connections to the city. I don't see why he'd choose Edmonton, but if they offer him 18 million over 3 years, could he actually turn that offer down?

I hope MacT is smarter than to make that offer .... if there was any doubt previously, the playoffs reinforced indications of Jarome's diminished foot speed, ... father time has caught up to him.