where does Iggy play next?

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by CSharp

It's not Iggy's fault if Bylsma can't figure out how to beat the Bruins with their double coverage on Crosby. The Pens have so much depth and tools and yet the guy didn't know how to use all the tools he's got and that's why the Pens got swept. Matt Cooke on second line and Iggy on 4th line - go figure! And they got beat by another team that played them hard last year that didn't even make the playoffs this year.

Point out the time where Iginla played well enough to be in the Pens top 6.

(I mean in the series with the Bruins not the way he played 2-3 years ago)

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Who cares? ... Hopefully in the KHL

A thread full of people?

[Dion]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Point out the time where Iginla played well enough to be in the Pens top 6.

(I mean in the series with the Bruins not the way he played 2-3 years ago)

When Matt Cooke gets more ice time than Iginla it's not surprising to see Bylsma getting raked over the coals for his poor coaching efforts in the division finals. If you're going to give up a 1st round pick and players to get him then at least play in situations where you can utilise his assets.

Crosby and Malkin had zero points in the last 3 games and were a bust in this series. Iginla should have been given more of an opportunity in ice time and minutes played when your best isn't up to the task.

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by flamestalker

I don't think he was completely comfortable playing in the Eastern Conference...

I 100% agree, he does not belong out East. The pace out West is far more suitable for his style. Many Eastern based teams play too fast for his style, and I don't thing he can change at his age to accommodate such change. I would have said Ottawa, Detroit, and possibly Philly would be near the top of his list, but probably not anymore.

Here would be my top five candidates.

1.) Los Angeles: Obviously he has a relationship with a ton of people in LA, beyond just Darryl. The only issue with the Kings is they already have a ton of depth at the forward position, and they'll need to find room for young guys like Toffoli, Nick Shore, and perhaps a couple other guys next year. Also it depends on what terms he is on with Darryl currently.

2.) Vancouver: I honestly think that based on need, and positioning Iginla on the Canucks makes a lot of sense. He could probably slot in on a line with the Sedin's, and get a good chunk of powerplay time. I could see him score 35 goals even at his age. Of course the Canucks have cap issues, but I think Gillis wants to make a few big moves in the off-season, and bring in Iginla would do that. He also owns property in BC, is a part owner of the Blazers, and has spent a great deal of time playing in Vancouver over the years. Of course going there would spurn the Flames, but I think he'd see it as less of an issue as say joining the Oilers instead.

3.) St. Louis: Just going based off of Cup contenders the Blues seem like a good fit. The only issue is like the Kings them have a glut of forward depth, and if they went for a big ticket player, I think they'd want someone younger than Iginla. Also the Blues are not a team that can spend near the cap, so they probably can't offer Iginla the most. However maybe he'd want to reunite with his former Blazers coach in Ken Hitchcock.

4.) Anaheim: The Ducks seem to like having veteran players on their team, so Iginla might be a fit there. Him signing there might depend on what happens to Koivu and Selanne, or if the Ducks try and deal Bobby Ryan. Personally I think Iginla would be a solid fit in Anaheim, and would actually love to see him on the same team with Selanne. Although the only reason Iginla would want to sign there is that the Ducks might contend next year. Aside from that, does he have another reason to go out there?

5.) Edmonton: Pretty much a longshot, but anything is possible I guess. Edmonton may be able to pay the most, and bringing in Iginla might do wonders for their dressing room (in theory). Iginla was born in the Edmonton area, and obviously has some connections to the city. I don't see why he'd choose Edmonton, but if they offer him 18 million over 3 years, could he actually turn that offer down?

There are some other teams he might go to, and if he is willing to go out East maybe a Buffalo might work considering what they offered Doan last season. But, if I had to make a wager I'm almost certain he'll be back in the West for the end of his career.

[moon]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Point out the time where Iginla played well enough to be in the Pens top 6.

(I mean in the series with the Bruins not the way he played 2-3 years ago)

If the Boston series is the only criteria point out the time where any Penguin player played well enough to be in the Pens top 6.

[djsFlames]

Most likely:

1. Pittsburgh - Seemingly bonded with the team now and it was his first choice when most teams in the league would have likely offered a deal with us for him.

2. Detroit - They like their vets, and need a power forward to compliment their finesse players, and they've lost some weapons. I just see them going hard after him and offering the dough he wants too.

3. LA - Sutter. Obviously had a hand in acquiring Regehr. Will make the same suggestion for Iginla. But they might not offer the right money.

NYR and PHI are always possibilities, too. Both still competitive. And free agent vets like to jump around the Atlantic division it seems.

[gunnner]

1. Anaheim
2. San Jose
3. L.A

[JohnnyB]

L.A. would likely be best for Iggy because of Sutter. That's probably the best chance he has of playing up to his potential simply because Sutter would push him to play the game that is most effective for him and motivate him to perform. I got the feeling on the Pens that even when he was getting points Iggy was asked to play a limited role that mostly didn't work to his strengths. He needs the right type of coach to get what's left out of him.

[CliffFletcher]

Cap/budget considerations eliminate several teams (PIT, ANA, STL, PHO, VAN)

Playstyle eliminates more (LA, BOS, DET)

One thing is for sure - Iginla won't have his pick of teams to choose from. His role now is as a 2nd/3rd line scorer and PP specialist. And he has PR value in a Canadian city. He's certainly not a power forward anymore. Likely destinations:

OTT, TOR, DAL, EDM

Maybe SJ, but it sounds like they want to move out 30-something veterans, not bring in more.

[moon]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Playstyle eliminates more (LA, BOS, DET)

How does play style eliminate LA and BOS?

The fact that they have effectively used slower guys like Iginla would be a fine fit.

Or is this the he doesn't play defense BS that is going to try and be trotted out?

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by moon

How does play style eliminate LA and BOS?

The fact that they have effectively used slower guys like Iginla would be a fine fit.

Or is this the he doesn't play defense BS that is going to try and be trotted out?

Have you actually been watching Iginla the last three or four years? It's not BS; he doesn't play even an average defensive game. Name three CGY or PIT forwards who are worse at back-checking, supporting the defence, or digging pucks out of the corner. Whether by inclination or lack of aptitude, Iginla is a defensive liability on the ice. This was already clear as far back as the Olympics. His special status in Calgary ruined him as a two-way player.

On LA and BOS, every forward is expected to back-check, support the defence, and dig pucks out of the corner. Justin Williams is a far more effective all-around player at this point than Iginla. Boston are lucky they ended up with Jagr instead of Iginla - Jagr has adapted his game to use his size and reach effectively and play a two-way game. Iginla plays as though he thinks he's still 29. He's a one dimensional player.

[moon]

For Calgary, Cerevenka, Hudler, Tanguay, Cammalieri, Glencross (depending on whether he is trying that night or not), Baertschi are all worse at the things mentioned.

For Pitssburgh during the time Iginla was there Neal, Malkin and Kunitz certainly standout as worse. Even Crosby wasn't doing much of that in the play-offs like he normally does.

Iginla has played on teams that as a whole did not buy into the all round game lately. Possibly his fault but hard to blame him for not doing everything on a Pittsburgh in which it seemed they weren't asked to and he was far from the biggest culprit.

Boston wanted Iginla a couple of months ago and no reason to believe that they wouldn't want him now after a decent showing in Pittsburgh. Sutter had no issue with getting Iginla to play a well rounded game and Lombardi has wanted him for awhile.

I know the cool thing is to crap on Iginla and talk about how people "knew he was done 3 years ago" but the fact is the guy had a very good season, was one of the top scorers in the play-offs, played much better than most give him credit for and would be a great fit in the top 6 in LA or Bos, or pretty much any contending team in the league.

[BurningSteel]

[Kavvy]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

What? He plated horribly with Malkin and everyone who played with Malkin looked terrible. Malkin played like crap.

I thought Malkin was one of their better players in this series, and Iggy was one of their worst?

And I like Iggy.

[troutman]

St. Albert boy goes home.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Dion

When Matt Cooke gets more ice time than Iginla it's not surprising to see Bylsma getting raked over the coals for his poor coaching efforts in the division finals.

I think Blysma should get fired but I don't blame him for playing Cooke more than Iginla. Cooke is one of my most despised players ever but he plays a much better all around game than Iginla, can still skate well, and actually makes things happen when he's on the ice. Lets face it, plays die on Iginla's stick. He's too slow in the transition game, useless in his own end, and worst of all looks like he's lost the fire. He would have gone through the wall for the Flames in 2004 but it's been years since we have seen any on ice emotion or even anger from the guy and he looks like he's just going through the motions.

On the right team, used the right way he can still be effective in a role but he's not a top line player any more and barely top 6. I really don't have a clue what teams are going to be overly interested in his services next season as he looks like a player that is running on empty. Probably LA for sure and maybe Vancouver or even Edmonton but after that it becomes pretty cloudy.

[sureLoss]

Adrian Dater says the Avs may make an offer to Iginla:
http://sulia.com/channel/colorado-av...-2e6107b00377/

Could the Avs make an offer to Jarome Iginla? My opinion is...
Yes, I think they might. The Avs could buy out the contract of David Jones and use the remaining cash to make a decent offer to Iginla. Although I don't think they'd make a crazy offer. But the word I'm hearing is that Joe Sakic is intrigued with making Iginla an offer - and those two are good friends and former linemates on a Canadian gold medal Olympic team. Stay tuned.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by moon

Boston wanted Iginla a couple of months ago and no reason to believe that they wouldn't want him now after a decent showing in Pittsburgh. Sutter had no issue with getting Iginla to play a well rounded game and Lombardi has wanted him for awhile.

I know the cool thing is to crap on Iginla and talk about how people "knew he was done 3 years ago" but the fact is the guy had a very good season, was one of the top scorers in the play-offs, played much better than most give him credit for and would be a great fit in the top 6 in LA or Bos, or pretty much any contending team in the league.

Boston wanted Iginla for this year's playoffs but got Jagr instead.




Do you think that Boston will be looking at Iginla as a Horton replacement?

You do understand that the NHL has a salary cap and teams can't just go out and get whomever they want

LA has 11.9 M to sign 4 forwards and 3 d-men and 1 goailie

Their RFA's that would be great offer sheet candidates at 3.3 M (2nd round pick as compensation) would be Voynov and Bernier. 6.6M

At 1.6 M (3rd round pick as compensation)... Clifford, Muzzin, Lewis and Martinez. 6.4M

That leaves them over the cap by 1.1M If Willie Mitchell decides not to play next year they gain 2.5M (3.5M from Mitchell's contract less the 1M they have to pay Ellerby or whoever as their 7th D-man.

So they have 1.4M to replace UFA's Penner and Richardson and RFA Nolan. Signing Regehr would point to Scuderi signing elsewhere.

Even if they go into the season with a 1M backup goalie instead of Bernier @ 3.3M that would leave them with 3.7 M for 2-3 forwards.

How again does Iginla fit in with LA?

[moon]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Do you think that Boston will be looking at Iginla as a Horton replacement?

I think he could be looked at to fill that void yes.

You do understand that the NHL has a salary cap and teams can't just go out and get whomever they want

Understand that fine and also understand that you are vastly overrating the impact of that this summer.

LA has 11.9 M to sign 4 forwards and 3 d-men and 1 goailie

Their RFA's that would be great offer sheet candidates at 3.3 M (2nd round pick as compensation) would be Voynov and Bernier. 6.6M

At 1.6 M (3rd round pick as compensation)... Clifford, Muzzin, Lewis and Martinez. 6.4M

That leaves them over the cap by 1.1M If Willie Mitchell decides not to play next year they gain 2.5M (3.5M from Mitchell's contract less the 1M they have to pay Ellerby or whoever as their 7th D-man.

So they have 1.4M to replace UFA's Penner and Richardson and RFA Nolan. Signing Regehr would point to Scuderi signing elsewhere.

Even if they go into the season with a 1M backup goalie instead of Bernier @ 3.3M that would leave them with 3.7 M for 2-3 forwards.

How again does Iginla fit in with LA?

Clifford, Muzzin, Lewis, Martinez are all easy re-signs for them and not targets of offer sheets because they aren't worth it.

Bernier is an easy re-sign and trade.

A team of:

Williams-Kopitar-Brown
Iginla- Richards-Carter
King-Stoll-Lewis
Toffoli-Fraser-Clifford with Nolan as 13th

Voynov-Doughty
Regher-Muzzin
Greene-Martinez
Ellerby

Fits under the cap and is a fine team going forward.

[Kavvy]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Boston wanted Iginla for this year's playoffs but got Jagr instead.

Do you think that Boston will be looking at Iginla as a Horton replacement?

You do understand that the NHL has a salary cap and teams can't just go out and get whomever they want

LA has 11.9 M to sign 4 forwards and 3 d-men and 1 goailie

Their RFA's that would be great offer sheet candidates at 3.3 M (2nd round pick as compensation) would be Voynov and Bernier. 6.6M

At 1.6 M (3rd round pick as compensation)... Clifford, Muzzin, Lewis and Martinez. 6.4M

That leaves them over the cap by 1.1M If Willie Mitchell decides not to play next year they gain 2.5M (3.5M from Mitchell's contract less the 1M they have to pay Ellerby or whoever as their 7th D-man.

So they have 1.4M to replace UFA's Penner and Richardson and RFA Nolan. Signing Regehr would point to Scuderi signing elsewhere.

Even if they go into the season with a 1M backup goalie instead of Bernier @ 3.3M that would leave them with 3.7 M for 2-3 forwards.

How again does Iginla fit in with LA?

Thanked for the unnecessary sass.