[Signing] Kings re-sign Regehr (2yrs, $3mil AAV)

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by FAN

Agreed. Regehr was still considered a top 4 defenseman in the NHL.


Huh? You mean Iginla wanted to float around and score easy goals and Regehr wanted to play tough defensive hockey? Style of play usually doesn't matter to defensemen. I've never heard of a defensemen asking for a trade because he was tired of forwards being too aggressive or not coming back to help out.

Besides location, defensemen care most about money, playing time/how they are used, and winning. Regehr liked it here, he was under contract for a couple more years and he was playing 20+minutes and used as one of the team's most important defensemen. The problem was that he was on a sinking ship without much fight left in the crew so Regehr decided that he could move on and Feaster decided that Regehr was the guy he wanted to move to get out of that salary cap jail that Feaster felt he was in.

It's interesting to see that under the right coach, guys like Regehr and Hannan can play very effective roles. Those are still guys you need to win in the playoffs, not defensive liabilities like Wideman or #6/7th defensemen like Butler.

I think, more than money, defensemen in the NHL want what most of us want in our professional lives. Success. Second to that though, and maybe primary to some guys, is not being made to look bad by their co-workers.

I'd wager many defensemen would give up portions of their salary to ensure that they'd never be on the ice for another stoppable goal or shoddy defensive coverage by their forwards.

Probably an easy decision for Regehr to not even contemplate going to free agency and miss out on an opportunity to keep playing with defensively responsible teammates. He is in a dream situation for a veteran defensive defenseman. His teammates make him look better than he is and not worse. Huge change for a guy like him and the recent teams he's played for.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Badger Bob

Those picks for what they thought he could do in the post season. The extension is for what he is doing in the post season.

He's an old pro and knows how to elevate his play when it matters most. It's not exactly the same thing, but everybody here can remember Martin Gelinas. They guy was a 3rd liner during the regular season and maybe got 15 goals. Come '04 playoff time, he's suddenly found himself on the top line and potted about 10 goals. OK, may be off a little on the goal tallies (too lazy to verify) but not off by much.

doesn't absolve Feaster of the poor return we got for Reggie.

If its simply based on the timing of increasing Reggie's value (particularly after "cratering" in Buffalo, like many contend), then the Flames brain trust should have been smart enough to trade him at the deadline.

"Player values go up the closer it gets to trade deadline day" is hardly the Manhattan Project in terms of secrecy...

[Badger Bob]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

doesn't absolve Feaster of the poor return we got for Reggie.

We all knew that at the time that it was a salary dump. Didn't Regehr have a NTC? Then there was the favor of absorbing Kotalik's contract. So, Tyler Myers wasn't going to be the return, as some had speculated.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Badger Bob

We all knew that at the time that it was a salary dump. Didn't Regehr have a NTC? Then there was the favor of absorbing Kotalik's contract. So, Tyler Myers wasn't going to be the return, as some had speculated.

No one suggested Tyler Myers, stop lying.

[Badger Bob]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

To address your first comment I never was a fan of Regehr, even before the trade.
The second makes no sense. So I cannot have an opinion on somebody or get an impression of them? Everybody is in a strong position to get personal impressions from seeing somebody, that is called being human. I have no idea what your point was there unless you were just trying to stir the pot because it had nothing to do with my comment.

Loads of obnoxious posts from your keyboad in this historical thread without any need to fuel the fire:
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...traded+buffalo

[Badger Bob]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

No one suggested Tyler Myers, stop lying.

Yeah, his name came up (although the idea could be possible now with the contract he's got in relation to the lack of improvement). Luke Adam was mentioned, too (wouldn't want him, myself, fwiw - too inconsistent).

Last time you accused me of "making stuff up," about a draft from when you were a 15 year old expert. Another adult recalled the same thing. Then it got real quiet from your end.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Badger Bob

Yeah, his name came up (although the idea could be possible now with the contract he's got in relation to the lack of improvement). Luke Adam was mentioned, too (wouldn't want him, myself, fwiw - too inconsistent).

Last time you accused me of "making stuff up," about a draft from when you were a 15 year old expert. Another adult recalled the same thing. Then it got real quiet from your end.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Badger Bob

Yeah, his name came up (although the idea could be possible now with the contract he's got in relation to the lack of improvement). Luke Adam was mentioned, too (wouldn't want him, myself, fwiw - too inconsistent).

Last time you accused me of "making stuff up," about a draft from when you were a 15 year old expert. Another adult recalled the same thing. Then it got real quiet from your end.

Stick to HF IMO.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Badger Bob

Yeah, his name came up (although the idea could be possible now with the contract he's got in relation to the lack of improvement). Luke Adam was mentioned, too (wouldn't want him, myself, fwiw - too inconsistent).

Last time you accused me of "making stuff up," about a draft from when you were a 15 year old expert. Another adult recalled the same thing. Then it got real quiet from your end.

Okay, you say some suggested Myers. Prove it?

As for that other thing. I honestly have no idea wtf you're taking about. Fifteen years ago I was 15, you hadn't even signed up on the board yet. I'd love to see more about this gem. Even if I'm wrong on a subject I never just disappear. I always admit if I'm wrong.

But yah, go on.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Anyone who though we could have gotten Myers for Regehr alone is on some serious crack.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by FAN

But that had more to do with winning than style of play. Like I said, I've never heard of a defensemen asking to be traded because of the team's style of play. Regehr being a defensive defensemen it would be even harder to fathom the idea that he would ask for a trade if the style of play didn't suit him despite playing 20+ minutes a game. I bet that if the team was winning Regehr wouldn't care what style of play the team played as long as he was playing a significant role. That's how it works. Now if Regehr didn't buy into what the coach was preaching and the team was losing then that's another story.

Again he didn't ask to be traded, in fact he seemed reluctant to waive his NMC - and Buffalo even flew their owner in to try and convince Regehr to waive his NMC. Regehr declined at first, but from all reports ended up accepting the trade and was pretty pissed off at how the rumour was leaked to the media forcing his hand to accept the trade. Where that leak came from, I don't know, but it did seem a little bush league to me.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Okay, you say some suggested Myers. Prove it?

As for that other thing. I honestly have no idea wtf you're taking about. Fifteen years ago I was 15, you hadn't even signed up on the board yet. I'd love to see more about this gem. Even if I'm wrong on a subject I never just disappear. I always admit if I'm wrong.

But yah, go on.

yeah... he might have confused you with me, sounds like something I would have done a decade ago...

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Badger Bob

Loads of obnoxious posts from your keyboad in this historical thread without any need to fuel the fire:
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...traded+buffalo

Ahh, so it was stirring the pot. Got anything useful to say? You still have not remotely linked how what I posted in this thread has anything to do with that thread. Why don't you add to the thread as opposed to trolling?

[Reggie28]

If I had to choose between iggy or Reggie hoisting the cup, I choose reggie. The Pittsburg heat can wait

[CaramonLS]

He might have Myers mixed up with Ennis, his name was wildly speculated in the Regehr deal.

[sun]

Originally Posted by Reggie28

If I had to choose between iggy or Reggie hoisting the cup, I choose reggie. The Pittsburg heat can wait

Yeah, it's the LA Lakers turn, amirite?

[Flash Walken]

Girlysports for sure mentioned Myers (I don't remember if it was tongue in cheek, but probably) and I believe there was more myers talk after dreger suggested that there was a multitude of trade offers pending, with multiple players/assets from Calgary's side.

The funniest though was the speculation settling on Luke Adam and a 1st, then, that becoming blown out of the water. I believe it was Pat Steinberg who fueled that fire after reading about it on Calgarypuck. Journalism 101 right there.

I believe at one point the 'substantiated' rumour was Regehr + kotalik for Byron, Butler and a 2nd. It would be hours or days later before it was confirmed to be a Flames 2nd rounder going the other way for the same return.

I remember it being quite hysterical watching people jump through hoops to defend the impending deal, regardless of the return at each step. Once the deal had been finalized, many had no option but to be optimistic.

That was a real epoch moment in Calgarypuck History. When I get home later, I might read through that thread.

[FAN]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

Again he didn't ask to be traded, in fact he seemed reluctant to waive his NMC - and Buffalo even flew their owner in to try and convince Regehr to waive his NMC. Regehr declined at first, but from all reports ended up accepting the trade and was pretty pissed off at how the rumour was leaked to the media forcing his hand to accept the trade. Where that leak came from, I don't know, but it did seem a little bush league to me.

He didn't ask to be traded to a specific team, but according to Feaster, Regehr told Feaster that he's open to being traded and would work with him. I'm not sure if there was actually a "leak", but the draft is probably the worst time to broker a deal and have it remain secret until announced. Not really sure if it's bush league. It was a done deal apparently as much as the Iginla to Boston deal was a done deal. Only that Feaster is only willing to accept one offer and Buffalo really wanted Regehr and did everything to convince him to accept the trade.

[Badger Bob]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

Again he didn't ask to be traded, in fact he seemed reluctant to waive his NMC - and Buffalo even flew their owner in to try and convince Regehr to waive his NMC. Regehr declined at first, but from all reports ended up accepting the trade and was pretty pissed off at how the rumour was leaked to the media forcing his hand to accept the trade. Where that leak came from, I don't know, but it did seem a little bush league to me.

It wasn't just the owner, Pegula, but coach Lindy Ruff (Alberta boy) and GM Darcy Regier went out to Sask., too, to convince Regehr how much he was wanted in Buffalo. Expenses probably were on Pegula's dime.

The whole proceedings didn't suprise me at all. Mike Robataille, Sabres in studio analyst, belongs to my gym. He's very willing to talk and offer opinions. He told me that the previous season (to this trade) that Ryan Miller frequently bitched after games. Adding toughness, esp. on defense, was going to be a top priority, ostensibly to take that away as an excuse for Miller. Obviously, it didn't work out like they would've hoped, but the owner can't be blamed for opening his wallet to address needs.

[djsFlames]

Nice signing, Sutter.