[Signing] Kings re-sign Regehr (2yrs, $3mil AAV)

[Northendzone]

What a sweet deal for the premier shut down defenceman......gets to move from buffalo to la la land.......

[puckluck2]

Huge money for a 6th defenseman

But of course the people who should be eating crow are crediting the system and Darryl Sutter. Has absolutely nothing to do with Regehr still being able to play at a high level.

As much as you haters like to make up stuff about Regehr in Buffalo, what you made up is not true. He played well in Buffalo, not a star but the fans always liked him and they gave him up for 2 2nd round picks so the asking price was obviously high and the Sabres still thought highly of Regehr. I guess making things up is easier than admitting you were wrong and had likely not watched more than 5 minutes of Regehr playing in Buffalo.

[Steve Bozek]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

To be fair the way the Flames played team defense this past season Larry Robinson in his prime would have looked like he was worth $10 at times.

Having good 2-way forwards in front of him makes a good defenseman look great (see Pittsburgh), and a good defenseman can look mediocre or worse if he has weak forwards.

[Stay Golden]

Reggie vs Butler and Byron nobody can convince me that was a good trade for the Flames Feaster made.

Regehr is playing exactly the same hard nosed shut down Dman role to a T with LA just like when he was a longtime stellar Flame.
One bad season and Feaster was quick to part with him.

On the other hand Butler is horrible the worst D man on the Flames a turnover wimp and Byron is yes the smallest player in the NHL well done Feaster well done.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.h...r.weight&pg=30

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

A shame that Brent Sutter ruined a lot of players's values.

I still think that is on the high side for what Regehr is worth ($6 million over 2 years).

No way Brent Sutter ruined his value. I think it's pretty obvious that Regehr had his ideal for how the Flames should play, and Iginla had his. When Feaster wanted his more skill he clearly sided with Iginla, and Regehr decided he could move on.

LA is a great fit for Regehr, and no doubt he's happy to be on a team playing a style he believes in.

[transplant99]

This signing really makes me wonder what sort of money Voynov will receive now....no he isnt UFA but he does clearly play the #2 role behind Doughty and has been really really good for them for 2 years now.....and will want a pay cheque reflecting that. LA has about 11 million to sign 7 guys so it will be interesting to see what Lombardi does to make room. Scuderi is obviously gone and likely one of the bigger contracts up front along with Bernier.

Gonna be a crazy summer all over the NHL.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

Huge money for a 6th defenseman

But of course the people who should be eating crow are crediting the system and Darryl Sutter. Has absolutely nothing to do with Regehr still being able to play at a high level.

As much as you haters like to make up stuff about Regehr in Buffalo, what you made up is not true. He played well in Buffalo, not a star but the fans always liked him and they gave him up for 2 2nd round picks so the asking price was obviously high and the Sabres still thought highly of Regehr. I guess making things up is easier than admitting you were wrong and had likely not watched more than 5 minutes of Regehr playing in Buffalo.

LOL you have no idea what you are talking about. I can easily bet you that i watched a hell of a lot more Buffalo games than you did in the last 2 years and can safely say Reggie looked slow and brutal many of times.

Never underestimate what a player can bring to the table when he would go through a wall for the coach.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Great.

The Flames will have to face him 5-6 times next year.

And somewhere in Europe Ales Hemsky is peeing her pants.

[FAN]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

No way Brent Sutter ruined his value.

Agreed. Regehr was still considered a top 4 defenseman in the NHL.

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

I think it's pretty obvious that Regehr had his ideal for how the Flames should play, and Iginla had his. When Feaster wanted his more skill he clearly sided with Iginla, and Regehr decided he could move on.

Huh? You mean Iginla wanted to float around and score easy goals and Regehr wanted to play tough defensive hockey? Style of play usually doesn't matter to defensemen. I've never heard of a defensemen asking for a trade because he was tired of forwards being too aggressive or not coming back to help out.

Besides location, defensemen care most about money, playing time/how they are used, and winning. Regehr liked it here, he was under contract for a couple more years and he was playing 20+minutes and used as one of the team's most important defensemen. The problem was that he was on a sinking ship without much fight left in the crew so Regehr decided that he could move on and Feaster decided that Regehr was the guy he wanted to move to get out of that salary cap jail that Feaster felt he was in.

It's interesting to see that under the right coach, guys like Regehr and Hannan can play very effective roles. Those are still guys you need to win in the playoffs, not defensive liabilities like Wideman or #6/7th defensemen like Butler.

[calgarywinning]

What I noticed about Regehr when he played for our team is that he usually gave a maximum effort. Also, he visualized. So he would see what was going to happen and then how he had to intercede. So he would always stick his tongue out or have his brain frowned on his forehead on ice. He was always thinking, visualizing what he had to do, and then he did it or tried but you could almost see the bubble above his head.

At some points near his post apex play he lost focus or a step here or there. I recall when we lost him that we became a notch or two lower on the toughness scale.

[Badger Bob]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

You never really explained why you hate him so much.

For some CPers, the player is great anytime while in the Flames system, but then immediately sucks after being traded or released.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You know how sometimes you see a guy and for no reason you just get the impression the guy is a huge a-hole? That is Regehr for me.

With the way you behaved in trade thread, esp. after Pegula entered into the discussion, you're not in a strong position to make that accusation against somebody else.

[gunnner]

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

Great guy off the ice, glad he is getting rewarded for his strong play as of late on it. way to go!

I second this. He was my favorite flame, plus I always got to play summer hockey against him in Saskatoon Jemeni league. Then one night in 2010 at the longbranch he was sitting by himself in this goofy dumb and dumber style suit jacket. I sat down with him just to chat quick about Jemeni league and ended up sitting there for 3 pilsners talking flames. One of the most down to earth guys I ever met.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

Reggie vs Butler and Byron nobody can convince me that was a good trade for the Flames Feaster made.

Regehr is playing exactly the same hard nosed shut down Dman role to a T with LA just like when he was a longtime stellar Flame.
One bad season and Feaster was quick to part with him.

On the other hand Butler is horrible the worst D man on the Flames a turnover wimp and Byron is yes the smallest player in the NHL well done Feaster well done.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.h...r.weight&pg=30

That's smallest player 'not' in the NHL, thank you very much.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by FAN

Agreed. Regehr was still considered a top 4 defenseman in the NHL.


Huh? You mean Iginla wanted to float around and score easy goals and Regehr wanted to play tough defensive hockey? Style of play usually doesn't matter to defensemen. I've never heard of a defensemen asking for a trade because he was tired of forwards being too aggressive or not coming back to help out.

From a couple of Regehr's garbage day comments, it was pretty clear to me that he believed the team had to play a certain style of game to win. A couple of those he made some pretty specific comments about the coaches not demanding enough in terms of team defensive play. Feaster and Iginla wanted to play a different style, and I don't believe that style fit with Regehr's ideals.

So yeah, I do think Regehr decided that he was okay with being traded if the GM was going to try and play a more open style. My speculation is that he felt he had a better chance of winning by going elsewhere if the Flames were going to try and get players to play a more open style of game.

[Phanuthier]

IIRC it wasn't so much Regehr wanted to be moved, as it was the deal was already leaked pending NMC waive and that put pressure on Regehr..... IIRC there were 2 different posters that had said they knew Regehr and he was pretty pissed that the trade was made public before he had given his permission to waive. Whether that was on purpose or not, up to you...

[calgARI]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

From a couple of Regehr's garbage day comments, it was pretty clear to me that he believed the team had to play a certain style of game to win. A couple of those he made some pretty specific comments about the coaches not demanding enough in terms of team defensive play. Feaster and Iginla wanted to play a different style, and I don't believe that style fit with Regehr's ideals.

So yeah, I do think Regehr decided that he was okay with being traded if the GM was going to try and play a more open style. My speculation is that he felt he had a better chance of winning by going elsewhere if the Flames were going to try and get players to play a more open style of game.

Ironically Buffalo too ended up building a very soft, more offensive-minded team. That said, Regehr is now playing in a situation that is right for him.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Badger Bob

For some CPers, the player is great anytime while in the Flames system, but then immediately sucks after being traded or released.



With the way you behaved in trade thread, esp. after Pegula entered into the discussion, you're not in a strong position to make that accusation against somebody else.

To address your first comment I never was a fan of Regehr, even before the trade.
The second makes no sense. So I cannot have an opinion on somebody or get an impression of them? Everybody is in a strong position to get personal impressions from seeing somebody, that is called being human. I have no idea what your point was there unless you were just trying to stir the pot because it had nothing to do with my comment.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Badger Bob

For some CPers, the player is great anytime while in the Flames system, but then immediately sucks after being traded or released.

I like how you went out of your way to mention Calgary puck, like this isn't a symptom of every sports fan of every professional sport.

[FAN]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

From a couple of Regehr's garbage day comments, it was pretty clear to me that he believed the team had to play a certain style of game to win. A couple of those he made some pretty specific comments about the coaches not demanding enough in terms of team defensive play. Feaster and Iginla wanted to play a different style, and I don't believe that style fit with Regehr's ideals.

So yeah, I do think Regehr decided that he was okay with being traded if the GM was going to try and play a more open style. My speculation is that he felt he had a better chance of winning by going elsewhere if the Flames were going to try and get players to play a more open style of game.

But that had more to do with winning than style of play. Like I said, I've never heard of a defensemen asking to be traded because of the team's style of play. Regehr being a defensive defensemen it would be even harder to fathom the idea that he would ask for a trade if the style of play didn't suit him despite playing 20+ minutes a game. I bet that if the team was winning Regehr wouldn't care what style of play the team played as long as he was playing a significant role. That's how it works. Now if Regehr didn't buy into what the coach was preaching and the team was losing then that's another story.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by FAN

But that had more to do with winning than style of play. Like I said, I've never heard of a defensemen asking to be traded because of the team's style of play. Regehr being a defensive defensemen it would be even harder to fathom the idea that he would ask for a trade if the style of play didn't suit him despite playing 20+ minutes a game. I bet that if the team was winning Regehr wouldn't care what style of play the team played as long as he was playing a significant role. That's how it works. Now if Regehr didn't buy into what the coach was preaching and the team was losing then that's another story.

Not sure your point. It's been proven that the Keenan/Hartley non-commitment to defense style doesn't translate to winning. Therefore his discontent with the style correlated with the team not winning. Calgary, Buffalo both have that in common that they played a soft defense and they weren't very good. Regehr goes to a defensive structured team and he's on a winning team. It's not a coincidence that winning follows good defensive teams. If anything we can see that Regehr was right and Iginla was wrong.