04-25-2013, 12:46 PM
|
#81
|
In the Sin Bin
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
Would you trade the Flames 1st pick year (6th or 7th overall) for Hall, Eberle, Yakopov or RHN or Gagner??
...
at some point you have to stop and look at results rather than spin.
|
You should take your own advice and look at results rather than spin. Would I trade a 6th or 7th overall pick for a 21-year-old averaging greater than a point per game? Yes I would.
Yakupov is too early to tell, but I likely would not for Eberle or RNH at this point
You're also looking at spin vs results wrt your complaint about the Islanders. Matt Moulson is a three-time 30-goal scorer who is averaging a point per game this year. Brad Boyes was added this year, and they have good support pieces in Nielsen, Streit and Okposo. Vishnovsky has been huge for them on the blueline, and Nabokov has solidified their goaltending (though his numbers are not outstanding.)
The Islanders don't have the same level of pure top-end talent the Oilers do, but they have a much stronger team from top to bottom. That is why they are in the playoffs. Put John Tavares in Hall's place with the Oilers, and Edmonton is still deep in lottery territory.
|
|
|
04-25-2013, 12:51 PM
|
#82
|
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
|
Oh and if Iggy goes to the Oilers in the summer the guy is dead to me.
__________________
Just trying to do my best
|
|
|
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Hockey_Ninja For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-25-2013, 12:52 PM
|
#83
|
Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: AB
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
Have you ever asked him?!?!?! 
|
Him no. His brother yes.
|
|
|
04-25-2013, 01:58 PM
|
#84
|
Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: lower mainland
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodlad
Surprised nobody has mentioned Milan Lucic as a target.
|
I don't think we're allowed to say that.
|
|
|
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Stampede2TheCup For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-25-2013, 02:24 PM
|
#85
|
Lifetime Suspension
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by cznTiburon
To be fair Chicago did have 2 stud defencemen and some quality depth. Edmonton will never have a chance at a cup if they continue to put forward a defence where smid and Whitney are your best
|
Whitney has been a healthy scratch more often than not this year...pretty sad considering our defense
so no, he's far from the best
|
|
|
04-25-2013, 02:44 PM
|
#86
|
Scoring Winger
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
You should take your own advice and look at results rather than spin. Would I trade a 6th or 7th overall pick for a 21-year-old averaging greater than a point per game? Yes I would.
Yakupov is too early to tell, but I likely would not for Eberle or RNH at this point
You're also looking at spin vs results wrt your complaint about the Islanders. Matt Moulson is a three-time 30-goal scorer who is averaging a point per game this year. Brad Boyes was added this year, and they have good support pieces in Nielsen, Streit and Okposo. Vishnovsky has been huge for them on the blueline, and Nabokov has solidified their goaltending (though his numbers are not outstanding.)
The Islanders don't have the same level of pure top-end talent the Oilers do, but they have a much stronger team from top to bottom. That is why they are in the playoffs. Put John Tavares in Hall's place with the Oilers, and Edmonton is still deep in lottery territory.
|
I'd take Tavares over Hall any day of the week. If he was an Oiler I think they would be a better team than with Hall.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Salt Water Cowboy #10 For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-25-2013, 02:48 PM
|
#87
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
Oh and if Iggy goes to the Oilers in the summer the guy is dead to me.
|
They would probably throw ridiculous money and term at him.
|
|
|
04-25-2013, 03:05 PM
|
#88
|
Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by t0rrent98
I've said it before and i'll say it again. Iginla signs with Edmonton for 1 year than retires there as he is from there...
|
Iginla hasn't lived in Edmonton for nearly 20 years. I seriously doubt that he has such a pressing attachment; he has lived his entire adult life between Calgary and Kelowna.
|
|
|
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Textcritic For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-25-2013, 03:21 PM
|
#89
|
Franchise Player
|
I don't really care for Iginla anymore but if he signs with the Oilers with all the other options out there then the Flames mgmt better remember that and never think about retiring his number here.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Da_Chief For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-25-2013, 03:29 PM
|
#90
|
#1 Goaltender
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Iginla hasn't lived in Edmonton for nearly 20 years. I seriously doubt that he has such a pressing attachment; he has lived his entire adult life between Calgary and Kelowna.
|
exactly. might as well say "I was born in a North Korean holding cell, then eventually escaped and lived in a nice Miami beach house for 20 years. but I've always dreamed of going back because that's where I came from."
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Inglewood Jack For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-25-2013, 03:32 PM
|
#91
|
Franchise Player
|
Let's be reality.
Iginla isn't signing in Edmonton.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Ashasx For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-25-2013, 03:35 PM
|
#92
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
|
Sadly, I could see him signing in Vancouver.
__________________
"A pessimist thinks things can't get any worse. An optimist knows they can."
|
|
|
04-25-2013, 03:36 PM
|
#93
|
Crash and Bang Winger
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by cznTiburon
To be fair Chicago did have 2 stud defencemen and some quality depth. Edmonton will never have a chance at a cup if they continue to put forward a defence where smid and Whitney are your best
|
Not to mention it was Martin Havlat who led the team in scoring.
|
|
|
04-25-2013, 03:43 PM
|
#94
|
Lifetime Suspension
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Sadly, I could see him signing in Vancouver.
|
Yup, the only saving grace is Vancouver's cap situation. But you'd have to think that YVR is high on Iginla's list. Fans have always shown him alot of respect there, he fits a team need, and it's close to home.
|
|
|
04-25-2013, 03:47 PM
|
#95
|
Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Halifax
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
Would you trade the Flames 1st pick year (6th or 7th overall) for Hall, Eberle, Yakopov or RHN or Gagner??
Better still would you trade Mackinnon, Jones or Drouin even up for any one of these guys?
at some point you have to stop and look at results rather than spin.
|
No way would I trade our pick if it were in MacKinnon, Drouin or Jones range, all those guys have potential to be better then the Oilers young guys. And if there was still Lindholm or Monahan at 6th or 7th then no I still wouldn't trade our pick for Edmontons young guys.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to $ven27 For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-25-2013, 03:48 PM
|
#96
|
UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Sadly, I could see him signing in Vancouver.
|
So can we. So can Pierre Lebrun.
__________________

THANK MR DEMKOCPHL Ottawa Vancouver
|
|
|
04-25-2013, 03:48 PM
|
#97
|
First Line Centre
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Sadly, I could see him signing in Vancouver.
|
Don't worry they can't afford him
|
|
|
04-25-2013, 03:49 PM
|
#98
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Vancouver, BC
|
I think he'll re-up in Pittsburgh
|
|
|
04-25-2013, 03:50 PM
|
#99
|
UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by puckedoff
Don't worry they can't afford him
|
Buyout Booth and Ballard, Luongo trade has to happen if we like it or not. Assume we let Raymond walk... Hey we need a winger....
Quote:
Originally Posted by PlayfulGenius
I think he'll re-up in Pittsburgh
|
Most likely, but Vancouver is a team he'd be open to, so says Lebrun like two weeks ago on team 1040
__________________

THANK MR DEMKOCPHL Ottawa Vancouver
|
|
|
04-25-2013, 04:00 PM
|
#100
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by PlayfulGenius
I think he'll re-up in Pittsburgh
|
for 2m/yr?
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:34 PM.
|
|