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MrMastodonFarm · 02-24-2013, 04:43 PM

Iginla in a Bruins uniform would almost be as awesome as Iggy in a Flames uniform!

HighLifeMan · 02-24-2013, 04:44 PM

Expecting Schenn or Simmonds is completely unrealistic at this time. I would argue they are both just as good, if not better than Iginla is at this point.

I highly doubt they move Couturier either, but he is a more viable option however far-fetched.

I think something along the lines of

Boston : Ryan Spooner, Torey Krug, 1st Round Pick
Philly : Scott Laughton, Erik Gustaffson, 1st Round Pick

Would be relatively fair for both teams. You could possibly even persuade them into giving a conditional 2nd if they were to resign Iginla, or make it to the cup finals.

nik- · 02-24-2013, 04:47 PM

The Flyers are my favourite east team, so I'd be happy if he went there, but there's zero chance we pull Schenn out of there, let alone Schenn +.

$ven27 · 02-24-2013, 04:49 PM

I still think the most possible and best chance at a cup would be a trade to the Penguins.

Bennett, Morrow, conditional 1st round pick for Iggy.

killer_carlson · 02-24-2013, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Expecting Schenn or Simmonds is completely unrealistic at this time. I would argue they are both just as good, if not better than Iginla is at this point.

Ok. Make the argument.

HighLifeMan · 02-24-2013, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by killer_carlson

Ok. Make the argument.

Sure.

Brayden Schenn
19 Games Played
6 Goals
11 Assists
17 Points
15:21 TOI/G

Wayne Simmonds
17 Games Played
7 Goals
8 Assists
15 Points
15:51 TOI/G

Jarome Iginla
16 Games Played
1 Goals
10 Asissts
11 Points
19:49 TOI/G

What I see is two younger players that at this point have better all around games in addition to producing at a higher level with significantly less ice time.

Enoch Root · 02-24-2013, 05:00 PM

what a solid argument - I am totally convinced

HighLifeMan · 02-24-2013, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

what a solid argument - I am totally convinced

Your turn to prove otherwise.

kyuss275 · 02-24-2013, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

Schenn is basically a ppg player this season (17 in 19)

and people are thinking Schenn +?

I could see Philly being interested but it's not going to be for Schenn, don't get your hopes up

Agreed. The only way the flames are getting Schenn is if it is Iggy +. I wonder if Iggy and Gio would get it done? Philly needs help on D more than they need a winger.

nik- · 02-24-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

what a solid argument - I am totally convinced

Prove him wrong without using the word "was".

Enoch Root · 02-24-2013, 05:10 PM

posting points from 17 games is not an argument - at least not a solid one

and I wasn't the one that made a claim that needs to be proven

however, Iginla deserves a little more than having his point total compared to that of a 21 yr old rookie and be called no longer as good.

nik- · 02-24-2013, 05:13 PM

Legacy doesn't take regular shifts.

MrMastodonFarm · 02-24-2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nik-

Legacy doesn't take regular shifts.

Nope but experience and leadership do. Not saying Iginla is going to get traded for both or even one but just breaking it down by one small game segment is a little silly, no?

HELPNEEDED · 02-24-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by keenan87

King also said Darryl should have no fear of losing his job.'

This to me is the most useless argument made by fans of sports. It's a business, how many of these big businesses are telling the average joe every exact detail of what they are going to do?

What's he supposed to say, "The offers are starting to pour in for Iggy, let's have a fan vote on which one to choose?"

King's job is not player related, his job is to manage the managers.

Hells Bells · 02-24-2013, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nik-

Legacy doesn't take regular shifts.

Neither does hype.

Jarome Iginla is still a better player than Schenn IMO.

kyuss275 · 02-24-2013, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hells Bells

Neither does hype.

Jarome Iginla is still a better player than Schenn IMO.

I would tend to think that Schenn right now would be as good or better than the Iggy. If not it's close.

As for in a year or 2, there should not be one poster that thinks that Iggy would be more beneficial to the team over Schenn.

HighLifeMan · 02-24-2013, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

posting points from 17 games is not an argument - at least not a solid one

and I wasn't the one that made a claim that needs to be proven

however, Iginla deserves a little more than having his point total compared to that of a 21 yr old rookie and be called no longer as good.

I never claimed they were flat out better players, I said you could make the argument that they are just as good, if not better players today. I still firmly believe that Iginla is the better offensive player between these three (despite what the stats say) but when you take into account all three zones on the ice then the difference is negligible at best.

$ven27 · 02-24-2013, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hells Bells

Neither does hype.

Jarome Iginla is still a better player than Schenn IMO.

Maybe, but he's a cornerstone for the Flyers for potentially 10+ years, while Iggy would only be around for a few.

killer_carlson · 02-24-2013, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Sure.

Brayden Schenn
19 Games Played
6 Goals
11 Assists
17 Points
15:21 TOI/G

Wayne Simmonds
17 Games Played
7 Goals
8 Assists
15 Points
15:51 TOI/G

Jarome Iginla
16 Games Played
1 Goals
10 Asissts
11 Points
19:49 TOI/G

What I see is two younger players that at this point have better all around games in addition to producing at a higher level with significantly less ice time.

That is hysterical. Keep it up.

With that great logic we can also say that Rene Bourque is as valuable given his 10 points and 5 goals.

HighLifeMan · 02-24-2013, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by killer_carlson

That is hysterical. Keep it up.

With that great logic we can also say that Rene Bourque is as valuable given his 10 points and 5 goals.

Yet basing your opinion on the past is a much better way go about things?

Wayne Simmonds has more goals than Jarome does over the past season and change (95 games), how to you defend that?

Brayden Schenn has 26 points (9 + 17) in his last 30 games as a 20/21 year old.
Jarome Iginla has 15 points (1 + 14 ) in his last 27 games as a 35 year old.

I think my statement was more than fair. These are players heading in opposite directions in their career. To suggest that a UFA to be in Iginla has more value than the aforementioned players is ludicrous in my opinion.