Study links cannabis use to psychosis

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Sliver

You don't have to smoke MJ, though.

Yeah, but let's be honest, most people who use marijuana smoke it. There are the odd few who eat it or vaporize but they're few and far between.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

This is true, but HOOT indicated that he does.

He's also said he uses a vaporizer so who knows.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Bull####.

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Nobody gets high 5-10 times a day simply because they want to.

Good thing you don't have a job that drug tests. I hope you're not doing anything professionally that impacts the health and safety of other folks. You are no doubt impaired most of the time.

There's my antecdotal reply.

Most of the time? lol I don't even toke before or when I work, the only time I do it is when I'm off for the night or it's my weekend. The reason I do smoke so much is because I barely sleep, I fall asleep at 1am and wake up at 6am most days. And yes I do enjoy it enough to smoke it enough, I don't need, just like I'm not high right now, but I enjoy it. Shoot me!

I would challenge anyone that has been drinking coffee at least 3 cups per day for 10 years to quitting for any period of time and let's keep track of cravings and effects. I could walk away from it tomorrow without a blink if I had to, I've done it before and I could do it again. I just enjoy it way too much to do so. But then again I don't drink, smoke cigarettes and never done anything harder than marijuana or shrooms(5 years ago), hell I don't even take Tylenol or other pharmaceutical drugs, so if marijuana the worst thing I do to my body I can live with that.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Yeah, but let's be honest, most people who use marijuana smoke it. There are the odd few who eat it or vaporize but they're few and far between.

For sure, but that's because smoking it is the path of least resistance. I'm sure it will always be that way, but if it were legal it would be cool to walk into a liquor store and buy some weed cookies or whatever.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

This is true, but HOOT indicated that he does.

Sliver is right, I would say 95% of the time I vaporize, and when I do smoke a J it's only with friends or convinence. I just say smoke because it weird to type vapor instead.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by HOOT

Most of the time? lol I don't even toke before or when I work, the only time I do it is when I'm off for the night or it's my weekend. The reason I do smoke so much is because I barely sleep, I fall asleep at 1am and wake up at 6am most days. And yes I do enjoy it enough to smoke it enough, I don't need, just like I'm not high right now, but I enjoy it. Shoot me!

I would challenge anyone that has been drinking coffee at least 3 cups per day for 10 years to quitting for any period of time and let's keep track of cravings and effects. I could walk away from it tomorrow without a blink if I had to, I've done it before and I could do it again. I just enjoy it way too much to do so. But then again I don't drink, smoke cigarettes and never done anything harder than marijuana or shrooms(5 years ago), hell I don't even take Tylenol or other pharmaceutical drugs, so if marijuana the worst thing I do to my body I can live with that.

You do realize that marijuana use is linked to poor sleep patterns, right? As far as the rest of what you're saying, a lot of addiction has to do with personality types. There are some people who are more susceptible to addictions than others, and I don't think pot is vastly different. I've always found the hypocrisy of a lot of pot smokers to be pretty funny. If I sat in my house every night after work and got drunk, my weed-smoking friends would tell me I have a problem, yet getting high everyday is apparently different.

[Matata]

I can't recall a time in my life when I was completely mentally balanced. I'm also genetically hard-wired for rage (hooray for alcoholic scottish genetics) and was definitely more messed up when I was younger. So I guess I'm part of the self-medicating crazies camp, it's not so bad.

[Matata]

Originally Posted by rubecube

You do realize that marijuana use is linked to poor sleep patterns, right? As far as the rest of what you're saying, a lot of addiction has to do with personality types. There are some people who are more susceptible to addictions than others, and I don't think pot is vastly different. I've always found the hypocrisy of a lot of pot smokers to be pretty funny. If I sat in my house every night after work and got drunk, my weed-smoking friends would tell me I have a problem, yet getting high everyday is apparently different.

In my experience, alcohol is a lot more comparable to coke than it is to weed. They both can kill you and they just obliterate your mental and physical health when used routinely. I don't think that's really comparable to a data set that suggests weed is linked to psychosis.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by rubecube

You do realize that marijuana use is linked to poor sleep patterns, right?

Then why do most of my buddies pass out on my couch after tourching one?

It's been like that since I was 8 years old, so unless my body could feel the effects of something that happens 10 year in the future I don't buy it, or at least not in my case.

As I have mentioned numerous times, in numerous threads, any drug will have an effect on someone. I don't care what it is anyone could have a bad reaction to it and effect their daily lives.

I've always found the hypocrisy of a lot of pot smokers to be pretty funny. If I sat in my house every night after work and got drunk, my weed-smoking friends would tell me I have a problem, yet getting high everyday is apparently different.

Reminds me of my buddies who tell me I have a problem yet they finish a 6 pack on the way home from work. I could care less if someone wants to have a drink every night, good for them, it's their choice.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Matata

In my experience, alcohol is a lot more comparable to coke than it is to weed. They both can kill you and they just obliterate your mental and physical health when used routinely. I don't think that's really comparable to a data set that suggests weed is linked to psychosis.

And weed doesn't? If you use any substance excessively, it's going to cause harmful effects.

Originally Posted by HOOT

Then why do most of my buddies pass out on my couch after tourching one?

It's been like that since I was 8 years old, so unless my body could feel the effects of something that happens 10 year in the future I don't buy it, or at least not in my case.

I think it has more to do with the type of sleep you get and how tired you are the next day than actually falling asleep, but I know what you're saying. I've had sleeping problems forever, although I did notice they were worse when I was smoking pot regularly.

Reminds me of my buddies who tell me I have a problem yet they finish a 6 pack on the way home from work. I could care less if someone wants to have a drink every night, good for them, it's their choice.

For sure. Although my favourite example was how mad a friend of mine got when a few of us went to a hockey game in Van last year. A friend and I drank a whole bunch of beer and got pretty drunk and she gave us the whole "You can't have fun without drinking?" speech. Then the next day we went to the aquarium but as we were walking to the front door she went into full panic mode and told us to go ahead because she needed to get high first. Purely anecdotal and it's not really a reflection of all potheads, just some that I know.

[Matata]

Originally Posted by HOOT

Reminds me of my buddies who tell me I have a problem yet they finish a 6 pack on the way home from work. I could care less if someone wants to have a drink every night, good for them, it's their choice.

I know someone who did this and stopped because the alcohol content in their blood caused chronic nose bleeds.

[Matata]

Originally Posted by rubecube

And weed doesn't? If you use any substance excessively, it's going to cause harmful effects.

You can't say that all dangerous things are equally dangerous and casually throw scale and severity out the window.

[CaptainCrunch]

I was reading a study that its expected that Cannibas smokers would probably show significant lung damage earlier then normal because of the who deep inhale and hold the smoke.

They did a study where x-rays didn't show damage but cat scans showed significant growth of Bullae.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0123104017.htm

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/bullo...g-disease.html

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Matata

You can't say that all dangerous things are equally dangerous and casually throw scale and severity out the window.

That's not what I was saying. The differences between alcohol and weed,if used in the same quantities and frequencies are probably negligible. Yes, alcohol is bad for you, but inhaling superheated smoke of any kind isn't going to be any better for you if done on a regular basis. I'm not really sure why you chose to throw cocaine into the mix.

[Reaper]

nm

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Reaper

People also seem to forget (or don't even know in the first place) that there are many, many different strains of marijuana. Different cannibinoids affect people differently.

For instance, I came to the conclusion that I can no longer consume kush because it was too much of a burnout high (much like getting drunk and feeling hungover the next day). Now, I am strictly a sativa consumer as it is more of a clearheaded, body type of experience.

I had no idea, but I'll defer to the connoisseur.

[robocop]

I smoked pineapple express once, after that every other strain lost its appeal and I don't really smoke anymore except for the odd occasion.

[Traditional_Ale]

This thread is really trippy.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I was reading a study that its expected that Cannibas smokers would probably show significant lung damage earlier then normal because of the who deep inhale and hold the smoke.

They did a study where x-rays didn't show damage but cat scans showed significant growth of Bullae.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0123104017.htm

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/bullo...g-disease.html

Anyone who expects no damage to their body from inhaling the smoke of a dry plant is crazy. But I bet if you dried out your lawn grass and smoked it you would see the same effects. Which is why Vaporizing is the only way to 'smoke' marijuana. The high is just as good, if not better, it's cleaner and you save youself inhaling dried plant/rollies.

[TheSutterDynasty]

Cannabis use impairs memory, attention, inhibitory control, executive functions and decision making, both during the period of acute intoxication and beyond, persisting for hours, days, weeks or more after the last use of cannabis. Long-term or heavy cannabis use appears to result in longer-lasting cognitive abnormalities and possibly structural brain alterations. Greater adverse cognitive effects are associated with cannabis use commencing in early adolescence.

From:
Cognitive abnormalities and cannabis use.
Solowij N. Pesa N.
Revista Brasileira de Psiquiatria. 32 Suppl 1:S31-40, 2010 May.