The fact that you (and millions of other people) refer to sex as 'hooking up' these days is a big part of the problem, especially when talking about minors. Sex is a grown up activity with grown up consequences.
If, at 17, I thought my girlfriends parents would have me charged with a crime I would keep it in my pants. I realize there are a lot of guys your age who simply can't do that.
While I agree having sex comes with a certain level of responsibility, I think we should be careful not to give complexes to kids. It's important to think of sex as a positive thing that you engage in responsibly. Attaching shame or too much weight to sex is doing teenagers a huge disservice, because sex drives will manifest themselves in various ways if not give an outlet.
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As you can see, I'm completely ridiculous.
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Don't use adjectives that don't mesh with what you're saying if you don't like my reply.
It seems you don't see the difference between reporting and enforcement. Statutory rape is rarely brought to the attention of law enforcement, and it's not exactly feasible to set up a sting operation for it, so enforcement relies heavily on complaints being made. When they're made the laws are quite strictly enforced, at least that's case in the counties with which I am familiar (and they're all quite different in terms of makeup and location, which leads me to believe that this is the norm nationally). Of course there are literally hundreds of cases ever day in which nothing happens, that's the reality with any 'crime' that takes place almost exclusively behind closed doors. However, that doesn't mean that it is not heavily enforced, because as I said previously, enforcement and reporting are different things.
I don't engage in behaviors that might land me in jail.
Assuming you lived in the states should your daughter be registered as a sex offender if she chooses to have sex with someone her own age?
If she sends a naked picture of herself to her boyfriend should she be charged with distribution of child pornography?
It isn't just males that can be charged under those US laws. Either participant could be charged or both. Under some of those laws they are raping each other
Because it isn't. Teenagers ####. They have since human beings have existed and they will continue until we are no longer around.
That's why puberty occurs around 12-14 and not 18.
You realize what you've written here has absolutely zero to do with what I wrote or what Peter12 was inquiring about don't you?
Of course you don't.
__________________ I am in love with Montana. For other states I have admiration, respect, recognition, even some affection, but with Montana it is love." - John Steinbeck
It seems you don't see the difference between reporting and enforcement. Statutory rape is rarely brought to the attention of law enforcement, and it's not exactly feasible to set up a sting operation for it, so enforcement relies heavily on complaints being made. When they're made the laws are quite strictly enforced, at least that's case in the counties with which I am familiar (and they're all quite different in terms of makeup and location, which leads me to believe that this is the norm nationally). Of course there are literally hundreds of cases ever day in which nothing happens, that's the reality with any 'crime' that takes place almost exclusively behind closed doors. However, that doesn't mean that it is not heavily enforced, because as I said previously, enforcement and reporting are different things.
I see the difference, and agree with your assessment.
However, when you tell someone a law is heavily enforced (especially with the Canada vs USA dynamic we have here on calgarypuck) I'm not confident that they will come to the appropriate conclusion.
__________________ I am in love with Montana. For other states I have admiration, respect, recognition, even some affection, but with Montana it is love." - John Steinbeck
Assuming you lived in the states should your daughter be registered as a sex offender if she chooses to have sex with someone her own age?
If she sends a naked picture of herself to her boyfriend should she be charged with distribution of child pornography?
It isn't just males that can be charged under those US laws. Either participant could be charged or both. Under some of those laws they are raping each other
I've already mentioned earlier that I don't necessarily agree with all of the laws that were cited.
__________________ I am in love with Montana. For other states I have admiration, respect, recognition, even some affection, but with Montana it is love." - John Steinbeck
While I agree having sex comes with a certain level of responsibility, I think we should be careful not to give complexes to kids. It's important to think of sex as a positive thing that you engage in responsibly. Attaching shame or too much weight to sex is doing teenagers a huge disservice, because sex drives will manifest themselves in various ways if not give an outlet.
Agreed 100% and have never done that.
That siad, when a kid has sex before they're ready emotionally, it can take a toll. In that regard, I think its dangerous to play it off as something to take too lightly.
__________________ I am in love with Montana. For other states I have admiration, respect, recognition, even some affection, but with Montana it is love." - John Steinbeck
You cited Canadian laws with a 5 year window, which is absurd IMO.
The fact that you (and millions of other people) refer to sex as 'hooking up' these days is a big part of the problem, especially when talking about minors. Sex is a grown up activity with grown up consequences.
If, at 17, I thought my girlfriends parents would have me charged with a crime I would keep it in my pants. I realize there are a lot of guys your age who simply can't do that.
For your information, "Because it is not" is not an appropriate answer.
You're saying that sex has no consequences and that teens should engage in it at will?
__________________ I am in love with Montana. For other states I have admiration, respect, recognition, even some affection, but with Montana it is love." - John Steinbeck
I'm only playing devils advocate here and looking at it from a teenagers perspective. The large majority of kids just wanna get laid and aren't thinking of the consequences. That's reality.
I'm only playing devils advocate here and looking at it from a teenagers perspective. The large majority of kids just wanna get laid and aren't thinking of the consequences. That's reality.
So because they aren't thinking of the consequences the consequences don't exist making my point invalid?
If you say so.
__________________ I am in love with Montana. For other states I have admiration, respect, recognition, even some affection, but with Montana it is love." - John Steinbeck
There are consequences to be sure, but I wouldn't be calling sex a grown up activity.
Why not? It's just a word. It is not connected to an age or a legal definition, nor should it be when used in this way.
Change the word to whatever you want. Mature? People who aren't emotionally prepared to deal with sex should not engage in it.
__________________ I am in love with Montana. For other states I have admiration, respect, recognition, even some affection, but with Montana it is love." - John Steinbeck
I've already mentioned earlier that I don't necessarily agree with all of the laws that were cited.
I don't think there is that much room between criminalizing legitamate relationships and canada's laws.
I suppose you could just legislate half your age plus seven as it works for every age.
14 year olds sleep with 14 year olds
15 year olds sleep with 14.5 year olds
16 year olds sleep with 15 year olds
17 year olds sleep with 15.5 year olds
18 year olds sleep with 16 year olds
20 year olds sleep with 17 year olds.
But other than that Canada's law well balances protection of children with personal choice and the current reality of kids choices.
I don't think there is that much room between criminalizing legitamate relationships and canada's laws.
I suppose you could just legislate half your age plus seven as it works for every age.
14 year olds sleep with 14 year olds
15 year olds sleep with 14.5 year olds
16 year olds sleep with 15 year olds
17 year olds sleep with 15.5 year olds
18 year olds sleep with 16 year olds
20 year olds sleep with 17 year olds.
But other than that Canada's law well balances protection of children with personal choice and the current reality of kids choices.
You may be on to something here my friend. This is fine logic at work.
