Israel declares war on Hamas

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Not sure how this guy sleeps at night

https://twitter.com/user/status/1844091998774624593


In response to reports of Palestinians being shot as they're fleeing northern Gaza...

Quote: 'It's appropriate for the government of Israel to conduct investigations... they've told us they have hundreds and hundreds of ongoing investigations into potential violations of the IDF rules of conduct'

If you have 'hundreds and hundreds' of such investigations, I'd think you'd want to put on a pause and rethink exactly what your army is doing to other human beings. But that's just me.

But in any case, nobody is serious about protecting these Palestinian lives from the slaughter. That much appears evident.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by GGG

I was not aware better than Hamas was the standard we should hold ourselves to.

You did entirely miss the point of my post though which was clarified in my follow up to Language

Fair enough, I didn't see your follow up post.

[Language]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

How in the world could Yasser Arafat, Saeb Erekat and Hanan Ashrawi possibly have been expected to agree to a deal for a Palestinian state that among other things only provided for hundreds of millions in reparations, control over only Muslim holy sites in the old city of Jerusalem and security guarantees for Israel that ensured that only Air Palestine and other domestic and international airlines fly in and out of the brand new Gaza International Airport and that the tunnels underneath Gaza City be used only for the new Gaza Metro Subway?

They had it all lined up and they flubbed it. Absolute shame as the Palestinian people now endure misery at the hands of their inept “leadership” and will likely continue to do so for another lifetime. Complete ineptitude on their part.


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[Mr.Coffee]

Yeah I’m sure the Israelis internal investigations will be super thorough into Israeli war crimes committed by Israelis.

I’m sure Stalin’s internal investigations into Russian misconduct during WW2 was about equally effective.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

Not sure how this guy sleeps at night

https://twitter.com/user/status/1844091998774624593


In response to reports of Palestinians being shot as they're fleeing northern Gaza...

Quote: 'It's appropriate for the government of Israel to conduct investigations... they've told us they have hundreds and hundreds of ongoing investigations into potential violations of the IDF rules of conduct'

If you have 'hundreds and hundreds' of such investigations, I'd think you'd want to put on a pause and rethink exactly what your army is doing to other human beings. But that's just me.

But in any case, nobody is serious about protecting these Palestinian lives from the slaughter. That much appears evident.

Spoiler!

[Fuzz]

I guess Israel has now decided "eh, #### the peacekeepers, we aren't interested in peace."

Israeli forces fired on two positions used by United Nations peacekeepers in southern Lebanon on Thursday and at another one on Wednesday, the UN said, as Israel pressed its assault on Hezbollah and told Lebanese civilians not to return to homes in the south.

The UNIFIL force said two of its peacekeepers were injured in one of the incidents, when an Israeli tank fired at an observation tower at the force's main headquarters in Naqoura, hitting the tower and causing the peacekeepers to fall. There were no casualties in the other two incidents, a UN source said.

"Any deliberate attack on peacekeepers is a grave violation of international humanitarian law," UNIFIL said in a statement, adding that it was following up with the Israeli military.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/peacek...348342?cmp=rss

Any IDF apologists want to tackle this one?

[activeStick]

Well, Netanyahu released a statement a couple of days ago saying more or less that if the citizens of Lebanon didn't ally themselves with Israel and their ambitions, they would turn Lebanon into the next Gaza. Lebanon is a sovereign country and I believe the west is against threats like that made to sovereign nations! Israel better watch out and check their attitudes or else the west will come down hard on them!

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by pepper24

Bill Clinton during a speech in 2016:

“I killed myself to give the Palestinians a state. I had a deal they turned down that would have given them all of Gaza, 96 to 97 percent of the West Bank, compensating land in Israel, you name it.”

....

May 9, 2024: Hillary Clinton, on Morning Joe, says young critics of Israel lack knowledge of history on Israeli-Palestinian conflict:

“If Yasser Arafat had accepted [the BillClinton/EhudBarak peace proposal at Camp David], there would have been a Palestinian state now for about 24 years.”

As poor of a choice as that was, Yasser Arafat declining that deal near 30 year ago does not justify displacing 1.9million people.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I guess Israel has now decided "eh, #### the peacekeepers, we aren't interested in peace."

No surprise given you have former White House advisors calling for Israel to carpet bomb and napalm them.

[hah]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I guess Israel has now decided "eh, #### the peacekeepers, we aren't interested in peace."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/peacek...348342?cmp=rss

Any IDF apologists want to tackle this one?

"Peace" keepers doing a lousy job keeping the peace, with rocket fire from Lebanon into Israel for the last year.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by hah

"Peace" keepers doing a lousy job keeping the peace, with rocket fire from Lebanon into Israel for the last year.

Peacekeeping is dumb

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by hah

"Peace" keepers doing a lousy job keeping the peace, with rocket fire from Lebanon into Israel for the last year.

Is that a justification...or?

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

I think at this point it’s pretty evident the US is using Israel as a proxy to mess around and kill people inLebanon, Iran, and other Middle East nations.

Leave no Middle East nation unbombed, a continuation of 50+ years of US policy.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Bagor

No surprise given you have former White House advisors calling for Israel to carpet bomb and napalm them.

If anyone is curious, Matthew Brodsky is the person being referenced here. Hopefully, people aren't still being fooled into thinking that the American government and the politicians aren't full of people with very disgusting and extremist views of the rest of the world, but I still feel that too often, they're still generally trusted by way too many in the west, despite all the bad, all the death and destruction that they've caused around the world and their lengthy history that leads to sayings about how it's dangerous to be an enemy of the US, but it's fatal to be a friend.

On Brodsky, as mentioned already, he called for the carpet bombing of the Irish contingent peacekeeping at the Lebanon border (but derrrrp what about the Hezbollah rockets that find their way over to Israel?! That means the peace keepers should die!), and he's also called for the mass rape of the citizens of Ireland, Spain and Norway because I guess they don't support what the IDF is doing? Spoiler alert, he worked for the Trump campaign at some point.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1843697828805112225

[hah]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Is that a justification...or?

It could be a justification if the UN "peace" keepers are complicate with the terrorist organization. The UN organizations have been quite suspect on their impartiality/neutrality.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Peacekeeping is dumb

Peacekeepers aren't there to be an explicit physical force. They're there to be a presence of order/civility and signal that the area is not a stage for violence.

The big flaw in peacekeeping is that the opposing sides have to respect what peacekeepers do and represent. Israel signaling it has no interest in peace.

[hah]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

Israel signaling it has no interest in peace.

You mean Hezbollah signaling it has no interest in peace. Rocket fire everyday into Israel from Lebanon.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by hah

It could be a justification if the UN "peace" keepers are complicate with the terrorist organization. The UN organizations have been quite suspect on their impartiality/neutrality.

Oh FFS, pull your head out of your ass. While they may be imperfect, we still need an international organization representing most nations to help moderate the endless hate and destruction being sown in that part of the world. And yes, that fully includes our totally innocent state if Israel.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by hah

You mean Hezbollah signaling it has no interest in peace. Rocket fire everyday into Israel from Lebanon.

And why is that? Oh ya. They told us. Because Israel is committing monstrous crimes in Gaza. "Oh, woe be innocent Israel, having rockets randomly fired for no reason!" There is a reason if you choose to actually pay attention. You just fail to acknowledge Israel's part in it.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by hah

You mean Hezbollah signaling it has no interest in peace. Rocket fire everyday into Israel from Lebanon.

Yes yes i forgot, only the non-Israel countries have culpability here.

Thanks for keeping me focused on the 'truth'