08-22-2024, 07:51 PM
|
#9781
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redrum
Maybe Philly saw we had many high draft picks and prospects and asked for several of them so Conroy hung up. That's really the only way of unloading that contract.
|
Probably something like that, or it involved heavy salary retention for the next 7 years and nothing much coming back in return.
__________________
"A pessimist thinks things can't get any worse. An optimist knows they can."
Last edited by FlamesAddiction; 08-22-2024 at 09:36 PM.
|
|
|
08-22-2024, 08:05 PM
|
#9782
|
Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Probably something like that, or it involved heavy salary retention for the next 7 years and thing much coming back in return.
|
Maybe Huby will have a bounce back season and we can trade him for a different horrible contract!!! Still dreaming, I know.
|
|
|
08-22-2024, 08:27 PM
|
#9783
|
Franchise Player
|
I just can’t see anyone calling on Huberdeau. Any gm who thinks they can have the Flames dump him retained on them should be fired. Unless they want to give up a bunch of 1st rounders.
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Paulie Walnuts For This Useful Post:
|
|
08-23-2024, 12:16 AM
|
#9784
|
First Line Centre
|
Sillinger 2x2.25. I would’ve considered offersheeting. 2.29 would’ve been a third but at that point they’d just match. 4.5 is a lot but would’ve been worth it imo
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Tbull8 For This Useful Post:
|
|
08-23-2024, 02:54 AM
|
#9785
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbull8
Sillinger 2x2.25. I would’ve considered offersheeting. 2.29 would’ve been a third but at that point they’d just match. 4.5 is a lot but would’ve been worth it imo
|
You don't have to go to the max, and make an offer like $2.75-3.5M x 3 yr it would still be a 2nd, but at a much better caphit.
The problem I have with such an offersheet for a largely unproven player is that the QO would need to at least match that number, or you lose said player as a UFA. Also what message does it send the likes of Zary, and Pospisil, you'd have to offer them at least that.
|
|
|
08-23-2024, 05:59 AM
|
#9786
|
First Line Centre
|
The Flames are in the first steps of their rebuild, absolutely zero reason to be offer sheeting anyone. Keep collecting draft picks and use them. When they're starting to turn things around and see a situation like the Blues did maybe it's worth a shot.
__________________
MMF is the tough as nails cop that "plays by his own rules". The force keeps suspending him when he crosses the line but he keeps coming back and then cracks a big case.
-JiriHrdina
|
|
|
08-23-2024, 06:24 AM
|
#9787
|
Franchise Player
|
^ I don't think there are any RFAs left that would make sense for the Flames to offersheet this year, especially with a 2nd as compensation.
Tomasino, and Parsinen are intriguing, but I wouldn't risk more than a 3rd.
Krebs could be a guy I'd try to sign to $1.5M, which has no compensation, but will likely give him a 20-30% pay bump.
|
|
|
08-23-2024, 06:54 AM
|
#9788
|
First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: I'm somewhere where I don't know where I am
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sec214
Decryption Successful.
|
I usually open this thread and look just for Sec or Royal posts
1/2 of the content is gone now
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to All In Good Time For This Useful Post:
|
|
08-23-2024, 07:13 AM
|
#9789
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
|
Would the Jets by chance move Lambert+ for an upgrade (like Andersson as top pairing with Morrissey)? I only ask because it would make sense to since they just acquired Yager who is still 1-2 years out, they have Scheifele, Perfetti, and Vilardi
|
|
|
08-23-2024, 07:43 AM
|
#9790
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbull8
Sillinger 2x2.25. I would’ve considered offersheeting. 2.29 would’ve been a third but at that point they’d just match. 4.5 is a lot but would’ve been worth it imo
|
Calgary cannot do any offer sheet involving a 1st or 3rd round pick.
|
|
|
08-23-2024, 09:04 AM
|
#9791
|
Franchise Player
|
We can't be offer sheeting any players any way. Especially a player who will be in a Edmonton nursing home when its time to compete.
|
|
|
08-23-2024, 09:22 AM
|
#9792
|
#1 Goaltender
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sec214
Decryption Successful.
|
I’m pretty sure Sec meant he’s retiring from his day job so that he can focus full-time on rumours and insider information for CP.
|
|
|
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Rick M. For This Useful Post:
|
|
08-23-2024, 09:44 AM
|
#9793
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
|
Yeah, offer sheets are something we should maybe entertain when we can see the light at the end of the rebuild.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by snipetype
k im just not going to respond to your #### anymore because i have better things to do like #### my model girlfriend rather then try to convince people like you of commonly held hockey knowledge.
|
|
|
|
08-23-2024, 09:49 AM
|
#9794
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbull8
Sillinger 2x2.25. I would’ve considered offersheeting. 2.29 would’ve been a third but at that point they’d just match. 4.5 is a lot but would’ve been worth it imo
|
Columbus would just match. For an offer sheet to work you need the team to be jammed against the cap. In my opinion the best offer sheets are the ones that cost a 3rd or a 2nd in compensation and the team is jammed against the cap. Costs you next to nothing outside money to get the player.
Like next year the Stars have Bourque and Johnson up for contract. Suspect teams will start to try to lock these guys down well in advance but if it is late July and they have not locked those guys down you could roll the same play. RFA compensation will go up next year so say a 3rd is 2.4 and a 2nd is 4.8, you could offer the following
Bourque - 2 years at 2.4 (compensation a 3rd round pick)
Johnson - 2 years at 4.8 (compensation a 2nd round pick)
You might get one of them given the other players Dallas has to sign and how tight to the cap they are, especially if they do what teams usually do and get a bunch of old guys on July 1st and leave the RFA’s until later.
|
|
|
08-23-2024, 10:13 AM
|
#9795
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
Columbus would just match. For an offer sheet to work you need the team to be jammed against the cap. In my opinion the best offer sheets are the ones that cost a 3rd or a 2nd in compensation and the team is jammed against the cap. Costs you next to nothing outside money to get the player.
Like next year the Stars have Bourque and Johnson up for contract. Suspect teams will start to try to lock these guys down well in advance but if it is late July and they have not locked those guys down you could roll the same play. RFA compensation will go up next year so say a 3rd is 2.4 and a 2nd is 4.8, you could offer the following
Bourque - 2 years at 2.4 (compensation a 3rd round pick)
Johnson - 2 years at 4.8 (compensation a 2nd round pick)
You might get one of them given the other players Dallas has to sign and how tight to the cap they are, especially if they do what teams usually do and get a bunch of old guys on July 1st and leave the RFA’s until later.
|
Johnston will be getting a Beniers deal if he has another good season.
|
|
|
08-23-2024, 10:21 AM
|
#9796
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
|
Huberdeau for Couturier could make sense but I doubt Couturier would waive for Calgary while Huby would almost certainly waive for anywhere. I could see Briere possibly thinking that Huby could bounce back in a new environment
|
|
|
08-23-2024, 10:24 AM
|
#9797
|
#1 Goaltender
|
Huberdeau and Torts in Philly. That's gotta be a match made in heaven...
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Burning Beard For This Useful Post:
|
|
08-23-2024, 10:42 AM
|
#9798
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
Johnson - 2 years at 4.8 (compensation a 2nd round pick)
|
Johnston will get a large contract, he's not getting 2nd round money.
He's 21 and putting up 60 points already.
|
|
|
08-23-2024, 10:51 AM
|
#9799
|
#1 Goaltender
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Huberdeau for Couturier could make sense but I doubt Couturier would waive for Calgary while Huby would almost certainly waive for anywhere. I could see Briere possibly thinking that Huby could bounce back in a new environment
|
They are close to the same age. Both of their games have fallen off considerably. Couturier plays the more important position. Huberdeau has always shown more offensive production than Couturier. Huberdeau is paid quite a bit more though and for longer. Also, the injury issues for Couturier could suggest he may LTIR-retire before his deal is up - which helps whichever team has him if he never regains his previous level of play. Where as Huberdeau has been consistently healthy - suggesting there is no sign of him LTIR-retiring before his deal is up at this point.
All this points to the flames having to add in a deal with Huberdeau and Couturier being swapped. Not sure how much that would be.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to stemit14 For This Useful Post:
|
|
08-23-2024, 10:53 AM
|
#9800
|
First Line Centre
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Burning Beard
Huberdeau and Torts in Philly. That's gotta be a match made in heaven...
|
I don't see an issue.
Huberdeau puts in the work, never complains, and is a good teammate.
If Torts and a player like Panarin could have success together then so could Huberdeau.
|
|
|
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to HighLifeMan For This Useful Post:
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:28 PM.
|
|