really liked this one,and that zombie..sorry walker was terrifying sticking his face in the glass, hopefully the rest of the season is up to par with episode 9.
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Very interesting contrast created in this episode between the Rick and Shane characters in how they treat outsiders. Remember that Shane killed Otis—not an outright "outsider", but perhaps best considered an "ally"—for the survival of what he considers to be his "clan". He is not concerned for what is best for the group, only what is best for him, and for Laurie, and for Carl. Rick rescued a "hostile outsider" from certain death—in so doing, he probably jeopardized the continuity and survival of the group. Shane's choice was insular and short-sighted. Rick's choice is a massive gamble, but with potentially huge benefits: his act is a commemoration of humanity in what is becoming a dangerously inhuman world. For all his bluster about keeping the group safe, Shane is proving more and more to be a coward. His methods may prove to be temporarily successful in keeping the group physically safe, but on some level—and with a lot of help from Hershel—Rick is demonstrating that humanity is lost when compassion disappears. His actions stand in brazen defiance to the zombie "new world order".
This speaks to a major theme in the show: how do the characters survive in the new world, and how will it change them for better and for worse? Dale was right in pointing out to Shane that he "belongs in this world" in Episode 2:5, "Secrets", but ultimately what good is survival if they must sacrifice their humanity? Rick's reciprocally outrageous act of compassion helps to ensure that humanity and dignity triumph.
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"...harem warfare? like all your wives dressup and go paintballing?"
I originally thought that the Rick/Shane conflict would be one of the constant themes in this show, but the way they have been building it up this season (and especially with Lori and Rick in the tent), it doesn't seem like there is any way out except Shane getting killed.
Which in a way, is too bad. The character (and actor) has really brought a lot to the show.
I really don't think he will get killed off (Although I thought that about Jimmy on Boradwalk Empire too). However, I can see the group splitting with 2 storylines. That would be better IMO.
Shane always talking about how he'd do things better, so the show lets him walk the walk. I would love to see him go out kill a bunh of people, run into trouble and have Rick save him.
I guess we'll see. Also, the baby storyline makes me cringe. You have to be out of your mind to have a baby/toddler at that time/place. I keep expecting her to lose the baby, but it is looking like the writers are seeing this one out. You just know that farm is going to get attacked at season end.
I think this is the best show on TV right now. I can't get my wife to watch as it would scare her.
My wife accidentally got hooked by just happening to be in the room while I was watching during season one. She shuts her eyes and plugs her ears through most of the zombie stuff, mind you. For all her fear and disgust, she cannot turn away.
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"...harem warfare? like all your wives dressup and go paintballing?"
Great episode,might have been my favorite of the series
Interesting read on ign.com about how the last episodes with darabonds involvement was the mis-season finale. The new writers were unhappy with the slow burn pace of the show. I think we will see the show start picking up considerably in the last couple episodes.
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That was a great episode all around and one this show really needed. It was great to see some emphasis put on the Rick/Shane friendship. Seeing Shane with the ability to step away from the ledge and actually be able to sympathize with him, went a long way in making this episode as good as it was. Considering the small amount of characters that actually saw the screen tonight, it was obvious tonight was a big episode in the mind of the writers and one to address the heart of the show which has always been Rick/Shane.
I did think some of the punches in that Rick/Shane fight were pretty cringe-worthy though, if I had to find one negative.
I know a common sentiment is getting the group off the farm, and yeah, I'd like to see them off the farm as well. But I want to believe a decision the group makes to leave the farm. I don't want to see something forced. Outside of the farm being taken over by zombies, I can't think of a reasonable explanation as to why the group would leave.
Based on the preview for next week it seemed kind of pointless.
They go there, hash this stuff out, but Shane still wants to remove Rick and still feels the same way.
Despite the fact they got all that out in the open "bro style" and Rick saved his life.
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