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Old 09-09-2013, 05:46 PM   #961
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As much as you dismiss those that won't understand the "loaded question" reference that Nenshi posted, they are still his constituents as much as those that do understand what it all means.

As an example this was needed to be explained to a 14 year old boy, who is a huge fan of Nenshi and follows him religiously on twitter. He came to me with it as i was watching football yesterday and even after a bit of a discussion and explanation, he was still somewhat confused as to the context. This is a child who saw his mother abused by his father when he was young.

Im merely pointing out how poorly thought out the reference is, and how it most certainly can be offensive to others, including many who are his direct constituents. That's all. Whether you agree or not is irrelevant, as its a completely valid observation.
It's offensive to people who don't get it. When it is explained to them, they should no longer be offended and hey, they learned something!

Nobody should have to apologize for using what is, despite arguments to the contrary, a very common response to a loaded question.

It's like people getting offended at the use of the word "#####rdly". If you don't get it, that's your problem, not the person who has a better vocabulary than you do. Nobody should have to apologize for something that wasn't offensive to begin with.

As for Ezra himself, there is absolutely no doubt that he knows what it means. He is cynically riling up his fans, the dumbest people in the province, with this nonsense about "domestic violence". He's taking advantage of his own audience's ignorance and they don't even know it.

Edit: ha ha ha. The word was actually censored. "ni&&ardly" is what I was going for.
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Old 09-09-2013, 05:52 PM   #962
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Is everyone still beating a dead horse?
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Old 09-09-2013, 05:53 PM   #963
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That's offensive.




To horses...and unattractive people.
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Old 09-09-2013, 05:55 PM   #964
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It's offensive to people who don't get it. When it is explained to them, they should no longer be offended and hey, they learned something!

Nobody should have to apologize for using what is, despite arguments to the contrary, a very common response to a loaded question.

It's like people getting offended at the use of the word "#####rdly". If you don't get it, that's your problem, not the person who has a better vocabulary than you do. Nobody should have to apologize for something that wasn't offensive to begin with.

As for Ezra himself, there is absolutely no doubt that he knows what it means. He is cynically riling up his fans, the dumbest people in the province, with this nonsense about "domestic violence". He's taking advantage of his own audience's ignorance and they don't even know it.

Edit: ha ha ha. The word was actually censored. "ni&&ardly" is what I was going for.
I definitely want to use that word!
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Old 09-09-2013, 05:57 PM   #965
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I could just picture those two in the same hotel room, curious young college guys getting off to the sound of their own voices......as they practice for the next days debate.
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Old 09-09-2013, 06:11 PM   #966
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Is Ezra Levant still a blowhard?
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Old 09-09-2013, 06:13 PM   #967
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Do bears poop in the woods?
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Old 09-09-2013, 06:40 PM   #968
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Ezra rolled out the red carpet for Anne Coulter here a couple of years ago, a self-confessed right-wing polemicist (and lawyer) who unabashedly intends to stir the pot every time she opens her mouth.

With company like that, its no wonder Ezra likes to spin faster than a Stampede teacup ride.
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Old 09-09-2013, 08:23 PM   #969
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Levant is a tool and it'd be nice if he were just ignored.

I am sure the mayor is loving this though as he gets to be the offended one now and people will forget his camp was the was the twitter blowhard not long ago. It worked out well for him.
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Old 09-09-2013, 08:34 PM   #970
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This just in: Levant claims Minnie doesn't care about the woods. "He wants to let bears **** all over it"
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Is everyone still beating a dead horse?
You mean this thing that just happened yesterday? I know the internet moves fast, but jesus, can't we just have a couple of days to discuss it before people come in with the "OMH we're STILL talking about this!!!??!" stuff?
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Old 09-10-2013, 12:11 AM   #972
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No. Everyone's here pretty much settled on Levant being an idiot for pretending to be offended by an innocent metaphor and Nenshi being a hero in this exchange very quickly. I hate speaking in defence of people/personalities I actually dislike, and I do dislike Levant, but this is the case in point: he asked two tough questions and Nenshi did all but gave good and credible responses. Even in today's blog post he avoided direct responses. Regardless of Levant's motive, questions were straightforward: can Nenshi's Pembina address recorded on youtube be re-posted, so that everyone can form an opinion for themselves; and, secondly, why are PR people at Pembina given juicy municipal consulting contracts masked as scientific? I wouldn't mind knowing the actual answers that are not generalized and whitewashed. (To be fair, the second question is loaded and presumes that these contracts are sleazy; so, perhaps, an explanation of why Pembina Institute is hired to do anything and what does their hiring process involve would be more appropriate.)

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When did you stop beating a dead horse?
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You mean this thing that just happened yesterday? I know the internet moves fast, but jesus, can't we just have a couple of days to discuss it before people come in with the "OMH we're STILL talking about this!!!??!" stuff?
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ok, so can someone explain this whole thing to me? Except for the twitter exchange, which I totally understand.

I have no idea what the Pembina Institute is, and why it is bad (or perceived as such) for the city to have obtained their services.

I have some vague guesses from the context of this argument, but I don't work in the Oil Industry, which seems to be who is getting offended, so perhaps the point of the issue is escaping me.
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Old 09-10-2013, 07:35 AM   #976
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Got a free copy of the Sun today and accidentally read the headline of Levant's piece today. The hypocrisy was so stunning I couldn't bring myself to care or read anything he actually had to say.
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Old 09-10-2013, 07:40 AM   #977
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Got a free copy of the Sun today and accidentally read the headline of Levant's piece today. The hypocrisy was so stunning I couldn't bring myself to care or read anything he actually had to say.
Wait, they're not always free? As in.....people pay for the Sun?
I thought the paper existed only as something given to McDonalds and A&W,for the old folks to read while they enjoy their 5th free coffee refill.

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Well, obviously not, or he wouldn't have responded with a wall of text.
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Got a free copy of the Sun today and accidentally read the headline of Levant's piece today. The hypocrisy was so stunning I couldn't bring myself to care or read anything he actually had to say.
The Reader Comments to this article are nuts:

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