2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Poe969]

This team is bad right now and needs to make a "futures for help now" trade so they can get back to the middle of the pack.

I am 100%confident the team will mortgage what little future this team has for help now before they make a rebuilding move.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

If you can get your hands on a big winger who makes 3.4 million this year and next year and had 14 points last year and 14 points the year before you pull the trigger. He would be huge for the tank.

Armia was available on waivers for free 24 days ago but the price was too low to pick him up at that point. Now is the time for Conroy to pull the trigger and give up an asset for him.

Armia is the type of worthless asset that a contending team would throw in a 2nd round pick with him in a trade where they got back 50 bucks just to get out from under his contract.

I’m just saying he’s been linked to us previously. If we can get him for 50% does that change the calculus? Maybe we get a sweetener to take him on? I’m not suggesting paying top dollar, rather take him on with conditions and maybe he rebounds or at the bare minimum, plays a solid defensive game. It’s not a huge risk. With the smurfs we have on the team that don’t play 200 foot game and don’t do much unless they have the puck on their stick, maybe time to bring in players who have that ability.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Hackey

The market for Mangiapane at nearly 6 million is likely slim to none. If you could move him I wouldn't expect much value coming back beyond cap space or another similar contract trying to bounce back.

I would move Mangiapane next year and eat some salary. Suspect at the end of the day this year he ends up at 25 goals and 55 points. If he puts up that production next year he would have decent value to a team if they are getting him at 4.25 million or something with the Flames eating 1.6 or so.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Hackey

The market for Mangiapane at nearly 6 million is likely slim to none. If you could move him I wouldn't expect much value coming back beyond cap space or another similar contract trying to bounce back.

I’d take a player back who may score less but can backcheck and doesnt lose their assignments or turns the puck over. Unless he’s scoring (and he’s streaky), he doesn’t add much. Mix is off in room, we are married to huby and kadri, have to make changes where we can.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

I’m just saying he’s been linked to us previously. If we can get him for 50% does that change the calculus? Maybe we get a sweetener to take him on? I’m not suggesting paying top dollar, rather take him on with conditions and maybe he rebounds or at the bare minimum, plays a solid defensive game. It’s not a huge risk. With the smurfs we have on the team that don’t play 200 foot game and don’t do much unless they have the puck on their stick, maybe time to bring in players who have that ability.

We already have Rooney who can play the Armia role and he is cheaper, even at 50% off he is cheaper. The Habs are not at a stage where they would consider adding a sweetener to get rid of a contract.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

I’d take a player back who may score less but can backcheck and doesnt lose their assignments or turns the puck over. Unless he’s scoring (and he’s streaky), he doesn’t add much. Mix is off in room, we are married to huby and kadri, have to make changes where we can.

This team is just not that good, no sense in trying to save it. On a good team it has two potential first line forwards, two second line forwards and two third line forwards and the rest of the forwards are 4th liners or AHL players on most good teams.

It has 3 top 4 dman and 2 bottom 6 dmen on a good team. And it has an average goalie.

On top of that it has very little organizational depth so when they lose one of their top 4 dmen it really shows. No amount of moving the chairs on the deck of the titanic is going to cover up for that reality.

[butterfly]

There are a lot of pipe dreams occurring in this thread, and acquiring the 5th leading scorer of the Laval Rocket for $3 million takes the cake.

[Paulie Walnuts]

There should be zero thought given to trying to push this team into the playoffs.

Patience will win the day.

It's not constructed properly out star players are from other teams and you can't win like that.

[activeStick]

Kent Johnson has been sent down to the AHL. I recall some wanting Johnson for Lindholm.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1720510207988519198

[Number 39]

I’m probably not alone in wanting trades for picks and prospects and not established players. A big factor beyond wanting a rebuild is because I think the Flames pro scouting is incompetent. I don't have much faith in their ability to ID pro talent.

[CroCop]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Kent Johnson has been sent down to the AHL. I recall some wanting Johnson for Lindholm.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1720510207988519198

Old news lol

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Number 39

I’m probably not alone in wanting trades for picks and prospects and not established players. A big factor beyond wanting a rebuild is because I think the Flames pro scouting is incompetent. I don't have much faith in their ability to ID pro talent.

It depends. Guys like Sillinger than I’m on board with over late 1sts. Trades for similar aged players than I’d be annoyed

[CFO]

I actually don't think the flames are far off from being a future dominate team.

The young guys 25 and under are showing promise. All the flames need is a couple top 5 picks who are impact forwards and in 3-4 years the team will be considerable different. With Kadri and Huberdeau as the benn and Seguin of the team.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by CFO

I actually don't think the flames are far off from being a future dominate team.

The young guys 25 and under are showing promise. All the flames need is a couple top 5 picks who are impact forwards and in 3-4 years the team will be considerable different. With Kadri and Huberdeau as the benn and Seguin of the team.

They might be better if the younger guys progress, but they are certainly not going to be a dominant team without some stars. Right now, as good as some guys are progressing, none of them except Wolf project like that yet.

[CroCop]

Originally Posted by CFO

I actually don't think the flames are far off from being a future dominate team.

The young guys 25 and under are showing promise. All the flames need is a couple top 5 picks who are impact forwards and in 3-4 years the team will be considerable different. With Kadri and Huberdeau as the benn and Seguin of the team.

Cmon. If we bottom out for next bit we are 7 years from being competitive let alone dominate. Let’s be realistic here.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by CFO

I actually don't think the flames are far off from being a future dominate team.

The young guys 25 and under are showing promise. All the flames need is a couple top 5 picks who are impact forwards and in 3-4 years the team will be considerable different. With Kadri and Huberdeau as the benn and Seguin of the team.

Yeah they are a Bedard type pick away from being contender lol

There are some young talent but no more no less than most teams

[Paulie Walnuts]

I don't know about dominating but we are probably 2 impact draft picks away from competing for the playoffs at least. We have some decent prospects and some who could be impact picks themselves.

Plus Huberdeau is a good vet struggles and all he's a good player to have on the team for young guys.

We need that 1C from the draft somehow.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by CFO

I actually don't think the flames are far off from being a future dominate team.

The young guys 25 and under are showing promise. All the flames need is a couple top 5 picks who are impact forwards and in 3-4 years the team will be considerable different. With Kadri and Huberdeau as the benn and Seguin of the team.

Which young guys outside of maybe, and that is a big maybe, Wolf are showing promise to be a dominant team?

That doesn't mean they are bad but dominant is a pretty strong word and I can't see a single player on the team or in the system that leads you to think we can be dominant.

I can think of two dominant teams recently- Colorado and TB look at their top players- Makar, MacKinnon, Hedman, Kucherov, Point, Vasilevsky- who do we have in that group of players? Nobody

Edit: Forgot Rantanen and even Stamkos, we don't have a single prospect/young player that look able to reach that level.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Which young guys outside of maybe, and that is a big maybe, Wolf are showing promise to be a dominant team?

That doesn't mean they are bad but dominant is a pretty strong word and I can't see a single player on the team or in the system that leads you to think we can be dominant.

I can think of two dominant teams recently- Colorado and TB look at their top players- Makar, MacKinnon, Hedman, Kucherov, Point, Vasilevsky- who do we have in that group of players? Nobody

He or she just said we need a couple of those picks to be impact players they never said we have them.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

He or she just said we need a couple of those picks to be impact players they never said we have them.

The dominant teams have 3-5 elite players so a couple of drafts doesn't get us to that level. We would need some of our own players to reach the talent level that Colorado and TB have.

And even then that means we knock the drafts out of the park which is very unlikely as well. So becoming dominant in that time frame with zero dominant players coming from the group we have is borderline impossible.