2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Badgers Nose]

You guys are wasting your energy thinking about trades focused on futures,

Conroy's only capital is draft picks, our pending UFAs and maybe some salary retention.

Rebuild is out of the question, we all know that because the team has told us that. Murray not wanting to lock up Lindholm and Hanifin is not the same as agreeing to a rebuild. Flames insiders are singing from the same song sheet, 'this is playoff team on paper,' 'Huby is elite.'

I'll only believe a rebuild is happening when we are 50% of the way through it LOL.

More likely is trying to get a player/players that can unlock Huby and/or a new coach. I doubt Huska goes any sooner that a full season into his tenure, so it's unlikely that will happen.

Conroy has gotta build around Huby - we are married to him. So what does that mean? Duclair? Other players like him?

Can you do that by shipping out the UFAs? Our UFAs should be most appealing to a contender team, but would a contender send a productive winger to Calgary for any of our guys? Does a 3C, 4D, or 6-7D get you a fast play driving right winger? Because on a contender it's hard for me to see how our guys would be anything more than that. Does any good team sacrifice productive players for depth? No, of course not.

Does eating some of the salary make it more appealing to contenders? Sure, but when has this team ever done that? It seems Murray has no problem spending money on contracts, as long as it's to pay people to play here. Can't say that I blame him.

So that leaves draft picks.

I have a feeling that the moves the Flames are about to make are really going to upset a certain portion of the fanbase.

[Harry Lime]

The Hanifin chatter is coming from new York, not calgary. Picking up wahlstrom opens up a potential move on forward, and he's already 23, so not a pure future. New York would be kicking in odelius and a 1st.

Hanifin gone would open up a chance to trade for perunovich, who is 25 and a high ceiling. We can do this by moving a forward to st. Louis.

There are moves to make the flames a younger team, without a rebuild. 23 to 26 year old college or European players should be conroys bread and butter, I think.

[Sandman]

I have really liked Wahlstrom in the past, but I worry about his GAF meter these days. In games I have seen him, he looks like he’s coasting, and ineffectual.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

The Hanifin chatter is coming from new York, not calgary. Picking up wahlstrom opens up a potential move on forward, and he's already 23, so not a pure future. New York would be kicking in odelius and a 1st.

Hanifin gone would open up a chance to trade for perunovich, who is 25 and a high ceiling. We can do this by moving a forward to st. Louis.

There are moves to make the flames a younger team, without a rebuild. 23 to 26 year old college or European players should be conroys bread and butter, I think.

If you are 25 years old and are an offensive dman who has 6 points in 21 NHL games I would really question how high your ceiling is. This team is bad enough in my opinion to make poor trades for 24-26 year old players and still finish bottom 5 in the league.

[jg13]

Jack Hughes went down tonight. Apparently may take a day or two to find out how serious / unserious it is.

May be a landing spot for Lindholm especially if we retain.

[Strange Brew]

I just saw the Rangers recalled two ex Flames. Mackey and Domingue.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by jg13

Jack Hughes went down tonight. Apparently may take a day or two to find out how serious / unserious it is.

May be a landing spot for Lindholm especially if we retain.

Wonder how far-fetched it would be to aquire Dawson Mercer- no points,-2 in 10 games, despite getting good ice time. If not Mercer, the Devils have many enticing pieces.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

You guys are wasting your energy thinking about trades focused on futures,

Conroy's only capital is draft picks, our pending UFAs and maybe some salary retention.

Rebuild is out of the question, we all know that because the team has told us that. Murray not wanting to lock up Lindholm and Hanifin is not the same as agreeing to a rebuild. Flames insiders are singing from the same song sheet, 'this is playoff team on paper,' 'Huby is elite.'

I'll only believe a rebuild is happening when we are 50% of the way through it LOL.

More likely is trying to get a player/players that can unlock Huby and/or a new coach. I doubt Huska goes any sooner that a full season into his tenure, so it's unlikely that will happen.

Conroy has gotta build around Huby - we are married to him. So what does that mean? Duclair? Other players like him?

Can you do that by shipping out the UFAs? Our UFAs should be most appealing to a contender team, but would a contender send a productive winger to Calgary for any of our guys? Does a 3C, 4D, or 6-7D get you a fast play driving right winger? Because on a contender it's hard for me to see how our guys would be anything more than that. Does any good team sacrifice productive players for depth? No, of course not.

Does eating some of the salary make it more appealing to contenders? Sure, but when has this team ever done that? It seems Murray has no problem spending money on contracts, as long as it's to pay people to play here. Can't say that I blame him.

So that leaves draft picks.

I have a feeling that the moves the Flames are about to make are really going to upset a certain portion of the fanbase.

I would like to sign up for the group that will be very upset if they trade away draft picks to bring in veteran players to get Huberdeau going.

[Hackey]

That would be a classic Flames move. What's sad is I feel it isn't far fetched at all.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by CroCop

Kent Johnson demoted. Maybe he could be got

Maybe. Cole Sillinger’s girlfriend is from Calgary and is much more famous than he is. Mike Sillinger is from Saskatchewan so there’s more of a connection than there would be for Kent Johnson. Though Johnson being from Vancouver is also a western Canadian boy.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Wonder how far-fetched it would be to aquire Dawson Mercer- no points,-2 in 10 games, despite getting good ice time. If not Mercer, the Devils have many enticing pieces.

Would absolutely buy low on Mercer.

Mercer, prospect, high pick for Lindy?

[InternationalVillager]

Mercer. Yes please. That kid is good enough to do a 1 for 1 with Lindholm.

[Sandman]

I would do 1-for-1 as well, but hell to the yeah if we could get more. I think we could, with how bad his start has been.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

You guys are wasting your energy thinking about trades focused on futures,

Conroy's only capital is draft picks, our pending UFAs and maybe some salary retention.

Rebuild is out of the question, we all know that because the team has told us that. Murray not wanting to lock up Lindholm and Hanifin is not the same as agreeing to a rebuild. Flames insiders are singing from the same song sheet, 'this is playoff team on paper,' 'Huby is elite.'

I'll only believe a rebuild is happening when we are 50% of the way through it LOL.

More likely is trying to get a player/players that can unlock Huby and/or a new coach. I doubt Huska goes any sooner that a full season into his tenure, so it's unlikely that will happen.

Conroy has gotta build around Huby - we are married to him. So what does that mean? Duclair? Other players like him?

Can you do that by shipping out the UFAs? Our UFAs should be most appealing to a contender team, but would a contender send a productive winger to Calgary for any of our guys? Does a 3C, 4D, or 6-7D get you a fast play driving right winger? Because on a contender it's hard for me to see how our guys would be anything more than that. Does any good team sacrifice productive players for depth? No, of course not.

Does eating some of the salary make it more appealing to contenders? Sure, but when has this team ever done that? It seems Murray has no problem spending money on contracts, as long as it's to pay people to play here. Can't say that I blame him.

So that leaves draft picks.

I have a feeling that the moves the Flames are about to make are really going to upset a certain portion of the fanbase.

I get what you're saying but if the seasons going to #### and Lindy and Hanifin want out I don't see how they have a choice.

Trading for and then overpaying another UFA who hasn't played here would be committing suicide for this franchise. If we trade lindy/hanifin for an established player with term, it's going to be for a much worse player.

I guess they could take a run at Nylander as a UFA but goodluck.

Or possibly sell Lindy/Hanifin for futures then move those futures for another player like Canucks did. But what player could they possibly get that could help turn this franchise around that was bad even before losing a #1C and top 4D.

They need top end talent. The only possible route to get that in an established player is Nylander and that is a looooooong shot, far from a guarantee it would work and could potentially cause irreparable damage to this franchise.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Wonder how far-fetched it would be to aquire Dawson Mercer- no points,-2 in 10 games, despite getting good ice time. If not Mercer, the Devils have many enticing pieces.

Do we really want more guys with zero points in 10 games? Lindholm is our leading scorer. We have enough zero point guys.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

You guys are wasting your energy thinking about trades focused on futures,

Conroy's only capital is draft picks, our pending UFAs and maybe some salary retention.

Rebuild is out of the question, we all know that because the team has told us that. Murray not wanting to lock up Lindholm and Hanifin is not the same as agreeing to a rebuild. Flames insiders are singing from the same song sheet, 'this is playoff team on paper,' 'Huby is elite.'

I'll only believe a rebuild is happening when we are 50% of the way through it LOL.

More likely is trying to get a player/players that can unlock Huby and/or a new coach. I doubt Huska goes any sooner that a full season into his tenure, so it's unlikely that will happen.

Conroy has gotta build around Huby - we are married to him. So what does that mean? Duclair? Other players like him?

Can you do that by shipping out the UFAs? Our UFAs should be most appealing to a contender team, but would a contender send a productive winger to Calgary for any of our guys? Does a 3C, 4D, or 6-7D get you a fast play driving right winger? Because on a contender it's hard for me to see how our guys would be anything more than that. Does any good team sacrifice productive players for depth? No, of course not.

Does eating some of the salary make it more appealing to contenders? Sure, but when has this team ever done that? It seems Murray has no problem spending money on contracts, as long as it's to pay people to play here. Can't say that I blame him.

So that leaves draft picks.

I have a feeling that the moves the Flames are about to make are really going to upset a certain portion of the fanbase.

There are a lot of pipe dreams going on in this thread. Johnson, Sillinger, Mercer ain’t happening. That would involve GMs panicking. I can’t see panic moves this early in the season, and if anyone should be panicking, it would be conroy.

Time to stop moving picks. Time to look at buy low opportunities. Flames have been linked to Armia previously and wouldn’t be surprised if that’s who they were scouting in Arizona. Adds size to the lineup and plays a 2 way game. Here’s an old article linking him to us.

https://www.habsfanatics.com/Joel-Ar...-Flames-146051

Time to move on from 88 and 29 and maybe those are pieces we can dangle (not necessarily in an Armia trade). Small streaky wingers with defensive deficiencies. Markstrom would have a better save percentage if he had players in front of him who play a 200 foot game. Treliving way overpaid for 88, not earning his keep right now. Paid top dollar for a player who had an outlier 35 goal season.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Do we really want more guys with zero points in 10 games? Lindholm is our leading scorer. We have enough zero point guys.

Would we even trade Lindholm for McDavid at this point? Elias has 8 points and McDavid only has 9. We have enough middling point men, no need to pick up another.

Some might point out that Mercer had 56 points in his 21 year old year and Lindholm only had 39 at the same age but I think the first 10 games are a good enough sample size to put an end to this Mercer could be good insanity.

[bax]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Do we really want more guys with zero points in 10 games? Lindholm is our leading scorer. We have enough zero point guys.

lol Flames are getting dragged into a rebuild whether they like it or not.

Mercer put up 56 points last year at 21 years old. If you could get him for UFA Lindholm you take it and run.

Unfortunately I don’t see the Devils biting on that, even with Hischier and Hughes out.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

There are a lot of pipe dreams going on in this thread. Johnson, Sillinger, Mercer ain’t happening. That would involve GMs panicking. I can’t see panic moves this early in the season, and if anyone should be panicking, it would be conroy.

Time to stop moving picks. Time to look at buy low opportunities. Flames have been linked to Armia previously and wouldn’t be surprised if that’s who they were scouting in Arizona. Adds size to the lineup and plays a 2 way game. Here’s an old article linking him to us.

https://www.habsfanatics.com/Joel-Ar...-Flames-146051

Time to move on from 88 and 29 and maybe those are pieces we can dangle (not necessarily in an Armia trade). Small streaky wingers with defensive deficiencies. Markstrom would have a better save percentage if he had players in front of him who play a 200 foot game. Treliving way overpaid for 88, not earning his keep right now. Paid top dollar for a player who had an outlier 35 goal season.

If you can get your hands on a big winger who makes 3.4 million this year and next year and had 14 points last year and 14 points the year before you pull the trigger. He would be huge for the tank.

Armia was available on waivers for free 24 days ago but the price was too low to pick him up at that point. Now is the time for Conroy to pull the trigger and give up an asset for him.

Armia is the type of worthless asset that a contending team would throw in a 2nd round pick with him in a trade where they got back 50 bucks just to get out from under his contract.

[Hackey]

The market for Mangiapane at nearly 6 million is likely slim to none. If you could move him I wouldn't expect much value coming back beyond cap space or another similar contract trying to bounce back.