Edmonton is No Good XI: Mud, Sweatpants and Tiers

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

This year's Rieder?

This year's Oiler.

[Reggie Dunlop]

A 22-year-old former first rounder who's struggled might be worth taking a flier on as a reclamation project, but nobody's going to give up more than a fringe player/tweener or a mid-to-late rounder for him.

[Jaybo]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1737558935954235433

The only joke here is the Oilers themselves.

[sureLoss]

Remember the real gift of Connor Brown is the potential $3.25 mil bonus overage for next season.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Remember the real gift of Connor Brown is the potential $3.25 mil bonus overage for next season.

why is it only a potential? isn't it guaranteed now?

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Remember the real gift of Connor Brown is the potential $3.25 mil bonus overage for next season.

Isn’t that bonus already confirmed? I think he reached his games played so they’ll have that $3.25 million on their cap next year. That’s my understanding.

[sureLoss]

Its potential because the Oilers could still theoretically clear cap space to partially or fully fit the bonus into this season's books.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by Jaybo

https://twitter.com/user/status/1737558935954235433

[Locke]

Originally Posted by DionTheDman

McDavid and Draisaitl in Siberia.

McDavid and Draisaitl on the UFA Market.

Edmonton, when the toilet seat fell.

Brown, when the bonus is paid!

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Its potential because the Oilers could still theoretically clear cap space to partially or fully fit the bonus into this season's books.

I did not know that.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

A HHOF offensive defencemen who was never good in his own zone gets put into a position to teach players how to play defence.


WTF??

In itself, that's not ridiculous. Jacques Lemaire was a point-per-game player on one of the highest-flying offensive teams of all time, then turned around and became perhaps the most stifling defensive coach of all time.

The real problem is that Paul Coffey isn't all that bright, which may be why he never got a sniff at an NHL coaching job until he was 62. Even then, it took the combination of a truly desperate GM and an owner who wants to collect all the old boys in the club.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

In itself, that's not ridiculous. Jacques Lemaire was a point-per-game player on one of the highest-flying offensive teams of all time, then turned around and became perhaps the most stifling defensive coach of all time.

The real problem is that Paul Coffey isn't all that bright, which may be why he never got a sniff at an NHL coaching job until he was 62. Even then, it took the combination of a truly desperate GM and an owner who wants to collect all the old boys in the club.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

In itself, that's not ridiculous. Jacques Lemaire was a point-per-game player on one of the highest-flying offensive teams of all time, then turned around and became perhaps the most stifling defensive coach of all time.

The real problem is that Paul Coffey isn't all that bright, which may be why he never got a sniff at an NHL coaching job until he was 62. Even then, it took the combination of a truly desperate GM and an owner who wants to collect all the old boys in the club.

And Coffey didn't even want to be a coach right now. They pretty much told him he had to do it.

The game plan is obviously to cover up for their poor goaltending and defensive short comings by going full on offense. That might have worked back in the 1980s when the talent pool was fairly shallow. A team could hoard offensive players and it was difficult for other teams to match. It's true that the Oilers have two of the best offensive players in the league right now, but I think they under estimate just how much talent other teams also have these days. The gap between McDavid and other star forwards isn't like what the gap was between the phenoms and other stars back in the 80s. It's a lot closer these day.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by looooob

well don't look now but one of them is having their value skyrocket



https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/edmonton-oile...-ahl-1.2051333

Unbelievable…. Broberg is literally worth a 3rd/4th rounder. He can’t crack arguably the worst defensive core in the entire NHL. Who writes this crap?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Unbelievable…. Broberg is literally worth a 3rd/4th rounder. He can’t crack arguably the worst defensive core in the entire NHL. Who writes this crap?

People who dont know the difference between a 'sink' and a 'urinal.'

[browna]

Coffey was forced on McLellan's staff by Lowe in 2017 or 2018 as a skills coach. Didn't last very long, but stayed as a "senior advisor".

Anyways, back to Dreger shamelessly plugging for the Oilers and Brobergs agent, even with that ridiculous tire pump, why now? There's a roster freeze in place until after Christmas. Just link bait for the mouth breathers whio believe (or who are hired to pump up) all the tripe to retweet, push through Reddit or HF, and hope it gains some social media traction.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

And Coffey didn't even want to be a coach right now. They pretty much told him he had to do it.

And when he did, according to an article I just read, Gretzky told him point-blank: ‘You're setting yourself up to fail.’

I think they under estimate just how much talent other teams also have these days. The gap between McDavid and other star forwards isn't like what the gap was between the phenoms and other stars back in the 80s. It's a lot closer these day.

I forget who it was, but it was a fairly major pundit some years ago who said that the 1984 Oilers had six of the best players in the NHL and six of the worst players in the NHL. They were able to win because the worst players rarely saw the ice.

It's been said (the official stats don't go back that far) that Gretzky used to play as much as 30 minutes a night on a regular basis. You can't do that anymore; the game is so much faster that it would kill you. That makes depth more important.

Every team used to have a face-puncher on the fourth line, and most had two. The fans loved them, but most of them could hardly play. Coaches used to roll three lines unless the game was out of reach. In fact, until 1982, teams only dressed 17 skaters and there really was no such thing as a fourth line, just a couple of spare players in case of injuries or misconduct penalties. I believe the Flames' own Bob Johnson was one of the first coaches to use four lines regularly, and the media praised his teams for their amazing depth.

There is no bringing any of that back. It's bizarre watching the Oilers try.

[calgaryred]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

And when he did, according to an article I just read, Gretzky told him point-blank: ‘You're setting yourself up to fail.’







I forget who it was, but it was a fairly major pundit some years ago who said that the 1984 Oilers had six of the best players in the NHL and six of the worst players in the NHL. They were able to win because the worst players rarely saw the ice.



It's been said (the official stats don't go back that far) that Gretzky used to play as much as 30 minutes a night on a regular basis. You can't do that anymore; the game is so much faster that it would kill you. That makes depth more important.



Every team used to have a face-puncher on the fourth line, and most had two. The fans loved them, but most of them could hardly play. Coaches used to roll three lines unless the game was out of reach. In fact, until 1982, teams only dressed 17 skaters and there really was no such thing as a fourth line, just a couple of spare players in case of injuries or misconduct penalties. I believe the Flames' own Bob Johnson was one of the first coaches to use four lines regularly, and the media praised his teams for their amazing depth.



There is no bringing any of that back. It's bizarre watching the Oilers try.

The 80s Oilers has always been their blueprint for success, as soon as they got McDavid he was set up to play Gretzky minutes.

[442scotty]

The way McDrai have been playing this year it looks like they’re done, burnt out with the Oilers circus. It seems like they are having a hard time self motivating

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Unbelievable…. Broberg is literally worth a 3rd/4th rounder. He can’t crack arguably the worst defensive core in the entire NHL. Who writes this crap?

Dreger is no good

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Its potential because the Oilers could still theoretically clear cap space to partially or fully fit the bonus into this season's books.

New tradition for Oilers GM’s to crop dust the room on their way out. Chiarelli signed Kostkinen to that extension right before he was fired and Holland ensured he left a stinker when Brown counts as dead cap next year nullifying the cap increase for the Oil with dead money.