[News] Darryl Sutter out as Head Coach. Maloney presser at 11:30 AM MT

[Enoch Root]

Just saw that it's some dude named Bell, not Ball. Apologies to Ball. Bell? not so much.

[jammies]

I'm glad we've moved on from the old news of Sutter being fired to the fresh and exciting discussion of Sam Bennett.

[calculoso]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

What a terrible article - petty and whiny.

And singling out Huberdeau like that is not only cringeworthy, but unprofessional, IMO. We have no idea what Huberdeau said to Maloney. Also, Huberdeau worked hard all year, and never complained, no matter how bad things got.

Just bush league from Ball (who I generally like)

Check the author again…

Ball

Vs

Bell

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by jammies

I'm glad we've moved on from the old news of Sutter being fired to the fresh and exciting discussion of Sam Bennett.

Bringing it back to Sutter, what did you folks think of the Phaneuf trade?

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by sa226

Bennett was in a conundrum. He was a frustrating player who needed an opportunity. He was lost in the bottom 6 being deployed all over the place.

At centre, he was behind Monahan and Backlund.

The argument was that he should have forced the teams hand. But he didn't.

In Florida he was given #2C and took it and ran with it

Well isn't that exactly where this organization falls flat time and time again?

Successful franchises put these players in positions that suite and compliment their skillsets which in turn allows them to establish themselves and build confidence from the get go. Expecting these talents to come in and "earn" minutes while playing in a role they have never been asked to play at in any level prior is absolute lunacy and is such an outdated mentality.

We saw it with Bennett. We saw it with Ruzicka. We saw it with Valimaki. We even saw it to a small degree with Phillips.

Hell it even took this organization five full seasons before putting Gaudreau and Tkachuk together. The lack of foresight this organization has continually displayed is quite frankly embarrassing.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by jammies

I'm glad we've moved on from the old news of Sutter being fired to the fresh and exciting discussion of Sam Bennett.

Be patient. Once we give everyone a chance to post the same thing they've posted about Bennett 100 times over the past 4-5 years just ONCE more, then we can get to the new takes. We're so close.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by jammies

I'm glad we've moved on from the old news of Sutter being fired to the fresh and exciting discussion of Sam Bennett.

CP is playin the hits!

[DeluxeMoustache]

And the can’t miss hit of posters who post more about what other posters are posting than anything useful.

Over in the Florida series thread I found this. It’d be good here

Originally Posted by FanIn80

1. Time to develop and mature
2. Icetime befitting a highly-skilled superstar
3. Given a letter and treated like it actually means something
4. Older teammates who respond to his leadership
5. Younger teammates who also respond to his leadership (because of #4 above)
6. A coach who makes him the focal point on the power play
7. A coach who uses him in key situations like overtimes, shootouts and dying minutes of the game

Who knew all you had to do was let the guy grow up, leverage his natural leadership, give him proper icetime and allow him to play to his strengths? I mean sure... quite a few of us knew that, but you can't expect a Hall of Fame bound coach with a lifetime of hockey experience to know that, can you?

[timun]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Just saw that it's some dude named Bell, not Ball. Apologies to Ball. Bell? not so much.

Some dude? That's Rick "THE DINGER" Bell!

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Beating a drum?



All I'm saying is that it was both sides ... that's hardly controversial.



I was a Bennett fan, and defended him all the time, but I'm not one to just ignore the player's role in seizing opportunity.



It isn't like it was one coach in his way to succeeding. He played for five different bench bosses in 7 years in Calgary.



All of them were in Bennett's way?



Team certainly could have done a better job; so could have the player. (is that beating a drum?)

Yeah, he clearly has value, but kind of is what he is at this point. Good player but clearly not someone who should have went 4th overall. Ohh if only Edmonton had botched the pick before us and taken him instead of Drysaddle...

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

And the can’t miss hit of posters who post more about what other posters are posting than anything useful.

Over in the Florida series thread I found this. It’d be good here

How many times are you going to post about other posters who are posting about other posters?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

How many times are you going to post about other posters who are posting about other posters?

He has to let everyone know he's aware of other posters posting about other posters in between times he tells everyone he prefers not to post about other posters while other posters are posting about other posters.

What would we do without that content?

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Kadri was a Knight too right?

He was acquired in a trade. They've basically had pretty well anyone who's in their region who's been good at one time or another.

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Yeah, he's definitely shown mopre and he's had a great POs this year. But he's been a 40-50 point guy in Fla, which is not what you expect from a 4OA. It's good but he benefitsd in Florida by not having that pressure, by maturing his game and by playing first with on top of his game Huberdeau and now with Tkachuk. Frankly, with Tkachuk's season, Bennett should have had more Lindholm-like numbers.

EDIT: The Flames obviously didn't wait long enough or put him in the right situation. I wonder if they can do a reverse and snag an underperforming C like Byfield.

That is probably a decent market to be in. Teams have trouble valuing good players who under-acheive their draft position.

[bax]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

I’m not talking about them being good/better next year - I’m talking about them picking a direction, having a plan, sticking to it, and not making stupid, self-defeating decisions on a regular basis.

They can and should blow this up - they couldn’t win WITH this core WITH Johnny and Tkachuk.

They’re not gonna win with all of them north of 30.

A little off topic, but this is the type of mindset that holds Canadian teams back.

It reminds me of a couple years ago when everyone wanted to trade Gaudreau/Tkachuk and start a rebuild. You don’t build a winner overnight.

You continue to add pieces, gain experience, and let your younger players grow and mature.

Heck I remember last off season a surprisingly large contingent of fans saying they were happy with Tkachuk wanting out because of lack of playoff success.

Now look at him - 25 years old and leading the entire league in playoff scoring.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

He has to let everyone know he's aware of other posters posting about other posters in between times he tells everyone he prefers not to post about other posters while other posters are posting about other posters.

What would we do without that content?

Lol

Last time I saw you, you were telling me it was just my opinion that Sutter had a shelf life. Ridiculing me for using reason and daring to think that my opinion was right

At precisely that time, the news came out that Sutter was turfed

And you did get quiet for a while

That was nice while it lasted

That will be all I have to say about you. Thanks for your interest

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by timun

Some dude? That's Rick "THE DINGER" Bell!

yeah, some (often angry) dude.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Lol

Last time I saw you, you were telling me it was just my opinion that Sutter had a shelf life. Ridiculing me for using reason and daring to think that my opinion was right

At precisely that time, the news came out that Sutter was turfed

And you did get quiet for a while

That was nice while it lasted

That will be all I have to say about you. Thanks for your interest

This reads a lot like a poster who posts more about what other posters are posting than anything useful.

I feel like someone just made a comment about that. You should listen to them. They are clearly very smart.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

OK then...

I am finding that I am rooting more for Love as HC than anybody for GM. I know it has to be GM first and he/she get's to decide, but I wonder if the choice of GM will depend a little on whether they view Love as the choice.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

That's his audience though.

The ones that lose focus after a sentence.

The ones that have short thoughts.

He can't put multiple sentences in a paragraph.

His readers would find it uncomfortable.

Then they wouldn't feel he's one of them.

I believe that style is actually mandated by the Sun, as it pegs its readership at a Grade 5 level of ability and comprehension.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Lol

Last time I saw you, you were telling me it was just my opinion that Sutter had a shelf life. Ridiculing me for using reason and daring to think that my opinion was right

At precisely that time, the news came out that Sutter was turfed

And you did get quiet for a while

That was nice while it lasted

That will be all I have to say about you. Thanks for your interest

You're gettin trolled dude. Walk away.