Israel declares war on Hamas

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-ki...gets-tiberias/


Terrorists dropping like flies, world celebrates. Calgary puck forum in shambles, struggling to spin deaths as genocide, war crimes, famine, apartheid or possibly a open air prison ��

That particular strike 11 dead at least two senior members of leadership is probably something that most people will tolerate.

Now can you account for the other 630 dead in your article, at least half women and children with the same level of significance in disabling Hezbolah?

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Yup. Didn't happen. Your story is changing and all over the place.

You said your location was Kensington/Earls Court and a couple of blocks away which is nowhere near the scene of the f Hyde park bomb. Not to mention being caught up in an event like that is something you'd remember. Not to mention there is zero record of a car bomb of a magnitude to take out windows two blocks away in the area your group home was in.

Sidetracking the thread but had to call you on that porkie.

Hyde Park is in Kensington you mook, its a few blocks away from the Gloucester Rd, still you carry on I aint arguing over my most memorable day at work outside of the Christmas Eve when one of the girls got raped

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

Hey Nage Waza, you assured me that it was just "the usual suspects" who inaccurately accused you of dodging their responses, but I see you're back in the thread and have ignored this twice. That seems odd :

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Sorry, what did I ignore? Happy to respond, might have missed a post here or there. Many posts won't be answered because they are just hateful attacks. Any legit discussion, for sure, I am happy to chat.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

If you live in Gaza and are know to be feeding information to the IDF your life will be short and painful, I think we all know that, that was the stupidity of Naga'a statement

Is your argument that Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, Syria, Russia and China are no threat to Israel? The thousands of rockets being fired at Israel should be ignored since they are no big deal? More than ten percent of Israel has been evacuated for a year, and you are a world away saying that is no big deal? The only reason it is no big deal (your claim) is because of Israeli intelligence and the IDF hunting these lunatics down.

Israel cannot afford what is happening to Ukraine (having a war on their land) since the country is tiny - the war must be fought on the enemies land. Overwhelming force might motivate these fools into making better choices, and you can see Iran making some better choices. The enemy has made it very clear, kill jews everywhere, are those of us that have to live with true racism and hatred stupid?

[Nage Waza]

[QUOTE=ThePrince;9208489]So what is representative of the IDF as a whole?

Originally Posted by ThePrince

When they assassinate journalists?

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/09/05/m...stigation-intl

There is no freedom of speech in Gaza, you call them journalists? They are amongst terrorists without unfirms. I suggest they stay away, unless their purpose is exactly what they are doing.

Originally Posted by ThePrince

When they throw civilians off of roofs in the West Bank?

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/09/20/m...bank-roof-intl

You mean dead bodies, right? You think IDF were throwing live humans off buildings? Now the issue is Israel isn't nice enough to dead terrorists? You have no idea if there are stairs, ladders or soldiers had to climb up there, but here you are, once again, defending terrorists who want to murder jews. Good one!

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

So what is representative of the IDF as a whole?

There is no freedom of speech in Gaza, you call them journalists? They are amongst terrorists without unfirms. I suggest they stay away, unless their purpose is exactly what they are doing.

Their purpose is to document atrocities. It's no surprise you'd want them to not do that. It's also not really shocking she'd "accidentally" get shot by the same ones committing those atrocities, and them not be held responsible.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Hyde Park is in Kensington you mook, its a few blocks away from the Gloucester Rd, still you carry on I aint arguing over my most memorable day at work outside of the Christmas Eve when one of the girls got raped

I'm very much aware of Hyde Park and the area.
Not all of it is in Kensington as you know. In fact a significant part of it isn't. It's a big park and the bomb went off nowhere near Gloucester Rd, nowhere near the area the area you claim and NOT in Kensington

Don't get upset because I'm raining on your sad effort at a cool story bro. It was so memorable a day that you can't recall eff all about it, where this supposed bomb a couple of streets away exploded or were their casualties etc. You can't even recall the year?

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

I have been 'blown up' by the IRA

What an attention seeking drama queen.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Bagor

I'm very much aware of Hyde Park and the area.
Not all of it is in Kensington as you know. In fact a significant part of it isn't. It's a big park and the bomb went off nowhere near Gloucester Rd, nowhere near the area the area you claim and NOT in Kensington

Don't get upset because I'm raining on your sad effort at a cool story bro. It was so memorable a day that you can't recall eff all about it, where this supposed bomb a couple of streets away exploded or were their casualties etc. You can't even recall the year?

What an attention seeking drama queen.

#### this is the least of cool stories I could tell, most of my cool stories involve gang fights and drug overdoses, there was the time my house got shot up by the IP because one of my kids owed them money on a front, you just dont like me because I'm a Brit, as we both know, it's always been an acceptable form of racism

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

#### this is the least of cool stories I could tell, most of my cool stories involve gang fights and drug overdoses, there was the time my house got shot up by the IP because one of my kids owed them money on a front, you just dont like me because I'm a Brit, as we both know, it's always been an acceptable form of racism

Good for you.

Now. Pick a new bomb.. You must be at least know the year that this supposed event happened.

[afc wimbledon]

the weird thing is it's always N American Irish that still hate the Brits, no back home gives a tinkers anymore

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Good for you.

Now. Pick a new bomb.. You must be at least know the year that this supposed event happened.

sometime between 82 and 85, probably in the middle, I was 21 or 22 and frankly bombs going off were the least of the shocking things going on for me at the time, kids getting high on glue and throwing himself out a 3rd floor window, the many many rape disclosures I dealt with, having the SPG raid the house looking for stolen cigarettes at 4am, having my dumb arse boss push the big red button on the wall outside the infirmary at Feltham YDC and have 40 screws take us down mob handed because the big red button isnt a doorbell in a jail, no the main thing I remember about the window blowing in is being relieved I didn't have to write up an incident report as no one got hurt

[ThePrince]

[QUOTE=Nage Waza;9209179]

Originally Posted by ThePrince

So what is representative of the IDF as a whole?



There is no freedom of speech in Gaza, you call them journalists? They are amongst terrorists without unfirms. I suggest they stay away, unless their purpose is exactly what they are doing.



You mean dead bodies, right? You think IDF were throwing live humans off buildings? Now the issue is Israel isn't nice enough to dead terrorists? You have no idea if there are stairs, ladders or soldiers had to climb up there, but here you are, once again, defending terrorists who want to murder jews. Good one!

Do you even bother to read anymore? Or are you so content with being brainwashed that you refuse to even acknowledge when truths are put in front of you.

Yes, the JOURNALIST that was assassinated by the IDF was wearing a vest that was clearly marked with PRESS on the front and back. She was murdered with a single shot to the back of the head.

How disgusting do you have to be to refuse to look at the information provided to you and instead just make up your own version that’s so far removed from reality only a sick human could come up with it.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

#### this is the least of cool stories I could tell, most of my cool stories involve gang fights and drug overdoses, there was the time my house got shot up by the IP because one of my kids owed them money on a front, you just dont like me because I'm a Brit, as we both know, it's always been an acceptable form of racism

I really don’t care about whether your story is true or not but did you just claim people are racist against British people? This is the biggest colonialist nation that is responsible for many of the historical decisions leading to systemic racism throughout the world.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

the weird thing is it's always N American Irish that still hate the Brits, no back home gives a tinkers anymore

LOL! There you go! You're qualified to speak for everyone now. You're just an expert on everything.

What lead you to the conclusion that I hates Brits? My English BIL? The 20 odd of them at my wedding. Strong chance I have more English friends than you. I'm just calling a know all feck all story teller like like yourself out on a bs story.

You say that you got blown up by a bomb. A significant enough car bomb that blew your windows in 2 blocks away yet there is zero evidence of this and the event was so significant you can't remember anything about it, even the year. What was the target? If it took your windows 2 blocks away it's fair to assume it did significant damages.

Yet there is no record of this?

It never happened. You're making it up. But hey at least Snuffleupagus believed you

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Bagor

It never happened. You're making it up. But hey at least Snuffleupagus believed you

No I just don't feel the need to call him a liar out of something I know nothing about, out of the dozens and dozens of bombs I'm sure it touched many many people, like my Canadian aunt who was just riding a bus. Or in your mind am I lying too?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

Sorry, what did I ignore? Happy to respond, might have missed a post here or there. Many posts won't be answered because they are just hateful attacks. Any legit discussion, for sure, I am happy to chat.

Oh, me! I have one:

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Honest question for all the “your terrorist buddies” and “classic anti-semite” repeaters here. Let’s use the same logic you use to deny genocide.

If everyone critical of Israel here is anti-semitic and pro-terrorist, why haven’t they expressed anti-semitic views or “supported terrorism” regarding any other topic on this board in the last decade?

Surely if everyone you disagree with is an anti-semite, you’ve got some evidence of that beyond “critical of the Israeli government,” right? Surely if everyone you disagree with is “buddies” with terrorists, you’ve got some evidence of their support for terrorist groups beyond “critical of the Israeli government,” right?

…right?

…any evidence at all?

I mean it’s pretty easy to quote posts where someone says they’re “cheering” on Israel as they kill thousands of children, or wishing posters were victims of a terrorist attack, or supporting Russia’s anti-LGBTQ laws, or promoting white nationalist propaganda, or calling Palestinians animal that need to be killed, and that’s just from some of the more vocal pro-Israeli government posters. So if you guys are that bad, surely you have evidence of the anti-war posters being much worse…

Weirdly, all of the posters this was referring to ignored it. That’s… strange. Must have been a total coincidence.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by GGG

I really don’t care about whether your story is true or not but did you just claim people are racist against British people? This is the biggest colonialist nation that is responsible for many of the historical decisions leading to systemic racism throughout the world.

Yes, like I said it's acceptable, if your British you know you have to take it dry, a fair number of people don't like Brit's because we did ####e things in the world

I wasn't complaining about it but if you are British it's a fact of life, you will meet people that don't like you because you're British, I have never ever said anything untoward to Bangor on any thread, I have never so much as criticized anything he's said to the best of my knowledge and yet he (I assume) has always been short with me, on this thread he has accused me of lying about something he has no knowledge of what so ever for no real reason, it's not like I was even talking to him, in fact I studiously avoid any interaction with him at all and always have since I came to the conclusion a long time back that he doesn't like me for no particular reason I can ascertain other than, I assume, I'm British.

I could be wrong, but I cannot think of any reason someone would just out and call me a liar in a conversation he wasn't even part of for no good reason, further he is claiming I am lying about experiencing a bombing in the early 80's in Kensington and Chelsea in West London when we all know there were at least three bombs within a mile or so of the area I worked in, I don't know whether he thinks I'm lying about working in a group home in Kensington in the 80's, he can't think I'm lying about bombs going off as we know that happened, no he thinks I am lying about my experience of one of those bombs going off, a wholly inconsequential experience at that, not one that I have claimed is anyway important, I mean why the ***k would I bother telling porkies about a bomb breaking a window where I wasnt hurt or did anything brave or anything else remarkable?

Like I said if you are British sometimes you just have to take it dry, we probably earnt it

[ThePrince]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Oh, me! I have one:



Weirdly, all of the posters this was referring to ignored it. That’s… strange. Must have been a total coincidence.

It’s crazy to me that this argument basically boils down to most people saying “Israel, you’re killing way too many civilians, you need to be more precise with your attacks and save civilian lives”. And then a group of unhinged maniacs responding that that’s anti-semitic and Israel is doing great and should be able to kill as many civilians as it wants because it is defending itself.

Do people realize literally all they’re arguing against is that Israel can do a better job protecting civilians, and they’re not doing so? No one here supports Hamas. No one here thinks Israel should not defend itself. No one here is anti-Semitic. We literally just want Israel to give more of a #### about Palestinian civilians.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by ThePrince

It’s crazy to me that this argument basically boils down to most people saying “Israel, you’re killing way too many civilians, you need to be more precise with your attacks and save civilian lives”. And then a group of unhinged maniacs responding that that’s anti-semitic and Israel is doing great and should be able to kill as many civilians as it wants because it is defending itself.

Do people realize literally all they’re arguing against is that Israel can do a better job protecting civilians, and they’re not doing so? No one here supports Hamas. No one here thinks Israel should not defend itself. No one here is anti-Semitic. We literally just want Israel to give more of a #### about Palestinian civilians.

Because they think this path is the only one Israel has, and this path will lead them to safety and security. So if you criticize it, you are saying you don't believe Israel has a right to safety and security, so #### you because that's monstrous, and you must be a terrorist. It's pretty reductive thinking, but we haven't seen a lot of intelligent thought out of those posters, so it tracks.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

Sorry, what did I ignore? Happy to respond, might have missed a post here or there. Many posts won't be answered because they are just hateful attacks. Any legit discussion, for sure, I am happy to chat.

Thanks! We can skip over the rest, but this is the part where I wasn't sure if we were talking about totally different things around the formation of Israel:

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

It certainly proved to be true. Every jew was kicked out of the countries surrounding Israel while Israel maintained their Muslim population.

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

Wait - are we talking about different things here?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_P...ion_and_flight