2021/2022 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Monahan's contract is a big problem for this team, both this year and next, no matter which way you cut it. Jankrok is an instant upgrade at #3C at a much lower cap hit. Getting Monahan's contract off the books would be a big benefit to this team.

Gio can still play at a reasonably high level. He's been playing far better this season than I though he would.

Haydn Fleury would be a depth defenseman for the playoffs.

FWIW Jarnkrok has played mostly on the wing for the last several years with Gourde, Duchene, Granlund, Johansen, Craig Smith. I'm sure he could play well down the middle, and is probably better suited to the 3C role than Monny, but Jarnkrok isn't exactly a seasoned centreman.

CJ is outproducing SM at EVS, but he has essentially had 1st line deployment, and a 14.9% S% (essentially tying his career high, though his average isn't that far off at 11.9), while Monahan has a career low 8.3% (career avg 14.1%). Monny is better at faceoffs and has twice as many hits. CJ's playoff numbers aren't very impressive, though he does have lots of experience.

Jarnkrok is definitely better bang for your buck, but IMO a bit of a lateral change with a higher-floor/lower-ceiling.

[Mathgod]

Among forwards on the Kraken with at least 500 minutes 5 on 5, Jarnkrok has the top GF/60 on the team. His GA numbers are not great, but it's a bit tricky to read into a player's stats when he plays on a bad team. Last year in Nashville he had the 3rd best GF/60 and the best GA/60 on the team. His xGF/60 and xGF% were middle of the pack however, but that could be a sign that he's more of a selective shooter, having a pass-first mentality.

Monahan's celing doesn't appear to be anything higher than what we're seeing from him recently. He has had time to find his game and work through his injury situation - if he hasn't done it by now, how likely is it that he will in the coming months?

[Sandman]

I love Jarkrok, but if we're trading with Seattle, I would look into the cost of aquiring McCann.

[camm13]

Originally Posted by Pickle Juice

My number one choice continues to be JT miller. Our defence is fine and if anything we need to keep him away from the Avs!!

Keep drinking that pickle juice

[The Boy Wonder]

Imagine looking at the coach you’re GM of, and sitting there thinking wow we’re better off with mony than bennett.

For all the good tre has done this this may go down
as savard, Gilmour levels of mismanagement

[TheScorpion]

I really don't think that was the extent of Tre's thought process when he made the trade.

Also, we're talking about the guy who's eighth on the Panthers in scoring, right? Not exactly Gilmour or Savard yet.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

Imagine looking at the coach you’re GM of, and sitting there thinking wow we’re better off with mony than bennett.

For all the good tre has done this this may go down
as savard, Gilmour levels of mismanagement

Bennett never once played better than Monahan in his entire time in calgary. Maybe that 5 point game against Florida.


It was an easy choice. Imo Bennett will also not perform at this level beyond this season. He has already slowed considerably.

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Bennett never once played better than Monahan in his entire time in calgary. Maybe that 5 point game against Florida.


It was an easy choice. Imo Bennett will also not perform at this level beyond this season. He has already slowed considerably.

I doubt it, Bennett has found a good home in Florida and they use him properly.

Bennett is a good physical two way center. He is slowing a bit yes but he will likely hover around 50 points a year and provide all of the other good stuff.

Bennett is a good player, we don't have to be salty about it. It didn't work here and the organization fumbled Bennett more tomes than can be counted. It happens and it is what it is.

Personally I hope he goes on to have a great career. He plays the game the right way and is a stand up guy.

[Vinny01]

Emily Kaplan trade stuff

https://www.espn.com/nhl/insider/ins...re-fleury-more

Gio apparently is ready to move and is not even submitting a 10 team list

[GioforPM]

At the risk of re-entering Bennett stuff obviously egged on by his #1 fan, Bennett wasn’t mismanaged, he was, apparently, miscoached, since the utilization has always been the complain. Now, yes, Treliving has some responsibility in that he chose the coaches. But said coaches didn’t “wreck” Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Mangiapane, Andersson, etc. And given the influence Sutter clearly has, if he really thought it was a moronic trade it wouldn’t have happened.

Bennett’s relative success is, IMO, a combination of him not being used better here, him not working as effectively to be successful here, getting a better fit there due to simple circumstance of team construction, and getting a new and fresh opportunity and working harder at it there. All those things in combination.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Emily Kaplan trade stuff

https://www.espn.com/nhl/insider/ins...re-fleury-more

Gio apparently is ready to move and is not even submitting a 10 team list

It must be frustrating for Gio to be on a struggling expansion team after what the last expansion team was able to accomplish, and then to see what the Flames have been doing this season without him.

I don't think the Flames should trade for him, but I hope he gets dealt to a strong eastern conference team.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Among forwards on the Kraken with at least 500 minutes 5 on 5, Jarnkrok has the top GF/60 on the team. His GA numbers are not great, but it's a bit tricky to read into a player's stats when he plays on a bad team. Last year in Nashville he had the 3rd best GF/60 and the best GA/60 on the team. His xGF/60 and xGF% were middle of the pack however, but that could be a sign that he's more of a selective shooter, having a pass-first mentality.

Monahan's celing doesn't appear to be anything higher than what we're seeing from him recently. He has had time to find his game and work through his injury situation - if he hasn't done it by now, how likely is it that he will in the coming months?

He's a good player and we should try to add him; I'm just skeptical he's an 'upgrade' on Monahan...but as a poor-man's Lindholm he might actually be a great winger for 23.

Mangi-Backlund-Toffoli
Coleman-Monahan-Jarnkrok
Lucic-Ruzicka-Lewis
Dubé

The ideal add is a fast, play-making, good defensively C/W with playoff experience. Jarnkrok probably checks those boxes as well as anyone realistically available. Dubé seemed to have a lot of those qualities, but it just isn't happening at the moment.

[powderjunkie]

I'm just gonna throw a name out there: Cogliano.

Not sure how is wheels are at this point, but he could be a good 12/13th F on the cheeeeap.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I love Jarkrok, but if we're trading with Seattle, I would look into the cost of aquiring McCann.

It would start with a 1st plus, and the plus would not be small.

McCann would be very much in demand.

[shutout]

I am thinking that the NYI might be a one stop shop.
The higher of the two second round picks for Chara and Parise.
NYI holds whatever salary is needed to make it work for the Flames.
Both players have experience and know what it takes to win.
Both are older and can use the rest in the regular season coming in and out as the 7th defenseman and 13th forward if needed.
Both can play up the lineup if they need to during the playoffs.
Both have to be motivated to win while they still have the chance to keep playing.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

Imagine looking at the coach you’re GM of, and sitting there thinking wow we’re better off with mony than bennett.

For all the good tre has done this this may go down
as savard, Gilmour levels of mismanagement

Get some new material, this is one of the best Flames teams of all time

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

I would love to see the flames land both Toffoli and Jarnkrok while hanging on to Monahan and I think it’s definitely achievable. With Johnny’s contract up they have to swing for the fences and deal with the contracts afterwards I can’t see them not going for it. A combined cap hit of 6.25 mill for Toffoli and Jarnkrok makes it so Calgary only has to shed about a mill to make it work.

Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk
Mangiapane - Monahan - Toffoli
Coleman - Backlund - Jarnkrok
Lucic - Ruzicka - Dube
Lewis, Richardson

Waivers/Taxi - Ritchie, Pitlick (potentially included in a trade?)

Crazy deep forward lineup that has scoring threats throughout.

The first part of my hope has worked out so well, really hoping we add Jarnkrok I think it would stabilize the faceoffs with him being a righty winger/Center hybrid like his cousin. He’s literally Lindholm lite. Go get him Treliving!

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Emily Kaplan trade stuff

https://www.espn.com/nhl/insider/ins...re-fleury-more

Gio apparently is ready to move and is not even submitting a 10 team list

I hope the Rangers drive up the price enough that it exceeds what the Flames are willing offer. It sounds like he may even fetch a 1st round pick.

[Vinny01]

If the Flames are destined to win the Cup this year I absolutely would love for Gio to be part of it. Seattle would be a great one stop shop for the Flames but they would have to be willing to take Monahan back to make the salary work but Gio and Jarnkrok would be nice adds.

I could see the Islanders being a decent option as well. Chara and Clutterbuck would be a nice combo to pick up.

[Tkachukwagon]

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