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Old 02-03-2025, 05:37 PM   #921
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Yikes, sorry, I didn't mean to encourage this butterfly weirdo.
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Old 02-03-2025, 05:43 PM   #922
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Where did I say that? What are you even talking about? I posted a ####ing meme.

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Don't even ask the question. The answer is yes, it's priced in. Think Amazon will beat the next earnings? That's already been priced in. You work at the drive thru for Mickey D's and found out that the burgers are made of human meat? Priced in. You think insiders don't already know that? The market is an all powerful, all encompassing being that knows the very inner workings of your subconscious before you were even born. Your very existence was priced in decades ago when the market was valuing Standard Oil's expected future earnings based on population growth that would lead to your birth, what age you would get a car, how many times you would drive your car every week, how many times you take the bus/train, etc. Anything you can think of has already been priced in, even the things you aren't thinking of. You have no original thoughts. Your consciousness is just an illusion, a product of the omniscent market. Free will is a myth. The market sees all, knows all and will be there from the beginning of time until the end of the universe (the market has already priced in the heat death of the universe). So please, before you make a post on wsb asking whether AAPL has priced in earpods 11 sales or whatever, know that it has already been priced in and don't ask such a dumb ####ing question again.
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Old 02-03-2025, 05:48 PM   #923
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Spin, lol. For the thousandth time, I abhor tariffs as they create needless economic inefficiencies that leave people worse off in the aggregate.

Trump was crowing about it before November. He's made no attempt to hide his agenda, which was multiplied by his implied chance of winning and priced into the equity, forex, and treasury markets long before the election occurred. The yield on the 10-year is up 2 basis points today. Huzzah?

People are flipping out like it's a COVID shock. It's just not a big deal. Trudeau handled it today like he should have on Saturday when almost everyone in the media and online were losing their marbles.

We have a republic here, which means there is no "glorious leader". The power rests in the Congress. Is Justin Trudeau your "glorious leader"? Or would that be Stephen Harper? Take a step back and breathe.
Oh I see the issue now. You’re just stuck with confirmation bias. Yes, he floated the idea in November 25 and the market didn’t really react. We had a couple months of very little reaction, because no one believed that he would actually put the tariffs in. Now, after the tariffs were scrapped, before implementation, you want to act like this was all known all along and not a big deal.

Meanwhile, anyone who watches the market saw clear as day that the open was down significantly this morning. Of course that wasn’t priced in, otherwise we wouldn’t have seen the decline at the open.
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Old 02-03-2025, 05:48 PM   #924
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The market was not fully pricing in an extended period of tariffs at all. Some of it was slightly priced in but the prevailing belief was that he wasn’t going to actually push through with them. If he didn’t push those a month then the market would have bled most of the week. The indexes recovered intraday with the announcement he pushed Mexico by a month.
That part is definitely true. Do you have any data to support the rest of it?
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Old 02-03-2025, 05:49 PM   #925
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Can’t believe people are buying into what Trump says like a fool

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Old 02-03-2025, 05:54 PM   #926
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Old 02-03-2025, 05:56 PM   #927
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Oh I see the issue now. You’re just stuck with confirmation bias. Yes, he floated the idea in November 25 and the market didn’t really react. We had a couple months of very little reaction, because no one believed that he would actually put the tariffs in. Now, after the tariffs were scrapped, before implementation, you want to act like this was all known all along and not a big deal.

Meanwhile, anyone who watches the market saw clear as day that the open was down significantly this morning. Of course that wasn’t priced in, otherwise we wouldn’t have seen the decline at the open.
Significantly? We never see +/- 1-2% moves in the stock market before they settle down? I mean, look at the current level of volatility in the market. It's just so historic.

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That part is definitely true. Do you have any data to support the rest of it?
Do you? Everything priced in is the laziest analysis you can do. If he keeps those tariffs on which no one actually expected him to do then it starts cutting into the earning power of companies that are already trading off stretched valuations and it would make it a lot harder for the fed to cut rates and add an outside chance of them actually implementing a rate hike. It wouldn’t be a cataclysmic stock market drop but it would add a lot of uncertainty to a market that is stretched as is.
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Do you? Everything priced in is the laziest analysis you can do. If he keeps those tariffs on which no one actually expected him to do then it starts cutting into the earning power of companies that are already trading off stretched valuations and it would make it a lot harder for the fed to cut rates and add an outside chance of them actually implementing a rate hike. It wouldn’t be a cataclysmic stock market drop but it would add a lot of uncertainty to a market that is stretched as is.
No. That's why I buy ETFs with the minimum expense ratio because other people will do it for me.

Some companies are trading on stretched valuations, not all. But value equities have been laggards with respect to growth ones for some time now - inexplicably to me.

There's no chance there will be a rate increase. Most people are expecting nothing and a small minority of people are expecting a 25 bp cut.
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I have a question.

President Trump is apparently upset that Canada and/or Mexico are not putting enough effort into protecting the USA border.

Does the USA put any effort into Protecting the borders of Canada and/or Mexico? Do they intercept illegal drug shipments headed to Canada? firearms headed to Canada? People crossing the border headed to Canada?

I struggle to find reciprocity.
Unfortunately we aren't a big irrational buffoon, so we kinda have to take what we get on this one. Unfortunately, the US is the world's most powerful economy, country, military, etc. We are price takers, not makers.
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Haha this is a joke only a constitutional nerd like myself would get. Well done.
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Significantly? We never see +/- 1-2% moves in the stock market before they settle down? I mean, look at the current level of volatility in the market. It's just so historic.

You don’t think a -700 futures print on the Dow is significant, or a drop of 3/4% in mega caps like we saw earlier this morning? That’s not just par for the course. That’s pricing in new information that took place over the weekend, and to help clear up any confusion, that new information wasn’t Beyoncé winning album of the year.
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Mexican Coke is made with cane sugar instead of high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS). Which used to be the case for all Coke.

HFCS is only used here because the corn industry successfully lobbies the government to have it subsidized to make it artificially cheaper than sugar. Another scam.
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No. That's why I buy ETFs with the minimum expense ratio because other people will do it for me.

Some companies are trading on stretched valuations, not all. But value equities have been laggards with respect to growth ones for some time now - inexplicably to me.

There's no chance there will be a rate increase. Most people are expecting nothing and a small minority of people are expecting a 25 bp cut.
Tariffs took the no chance of a rate hike off the table that was part of the sell off lol. You are so close to understanding
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Haha this is a joke only a constitutional nerd like myself would get. Well done.
Grammar nerds might take exception with your post. Not me, however.
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You don’t think a -700 futures print on the Dow is significant, or a drop of 3/4% in mega caps like we saw earlier this morning? That’s not just par for the course. That’s pricing in new information that took place over the weekend, and to help clear up any confusion, that new information wasn’t Beyoncé winning album of the year.
Not really. That's <2%. It had a negative impact on the market but nothing remarkable. Go back and look at what happened when we realized COVID was a thing.
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Tariffs took the no chance of a rate hike off the table that was part of the sell off lol. You are so close to understanding
Lol, look at the CME charts. There's been zero chance of a rate increase since Christmas.
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Not really. That's <2%. It had a negative impact on the market but nothing remarkable. Go back and look at what happened when we realized COVID was a thing.
Hahaha, I’m well aware of what happened with Covid, and look if you want to compare a once in 100 year event to contrast this I can’t stop you. It’s a ridiculous gauge, but however you need to spin this to feel better about your position is fine.
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