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Old 04-26-2023, 03:48 PM   #9121
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"Naheed Nenshi: Danielle Smith has surpassed all expectations. Not in a good way."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/nahe...-way-1.6372060
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Whatever happened to the SoCreds? They turned into the "Pro-Life Alberta Political Association", who are a single issue anti abortion group who uses the fact they are technically a political party to have their supporters get huge tax credits from donations. They have raised more in the last year than any party not named UCP or NDP.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...arty-1.6821605
Heard this on commute this morning and was mortified this actually allowed to happen...democraziness
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Old 04-26-2023, 04:08 PM   #9123
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"Naheed Nenshi: Danielle Smith has surpassed all expectations. Not in a good way."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/nahe...-way-1.6372060

“Time will tell if Smith proves to be a good premier after all, but one thing is certain. She has done what I would have thought impossible: she’s made many Albertans long for the leadership of Jason Kenney.”


Hahaha ain’t that the sad truth.
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Does this mean that anyone who votes for the UCP now isn’t doing so because they’re fiscally responsible but instead because they support their other let’s just call them shenanigans?

I don’t think “fiscal responsibility” is a principle of any party these days. I think they’re all going to spend like drunken sailors based on their party line. Some are just way more drunk than others.
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Old 04-26-2023, 07:43 PM   #9125
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I don’t think “fiscal responsibility” is a principle of any party these days. I think they’re all going to spend like drunken sailors based on their party line. Some are just way more drunk than others.
Ok. So let’s set that issue aside and compare all of their other ideas. Who’s the more sensible option in your opinion and why?
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Ok. So let’s set that issue aside and compare all of their other ideas. Who’s the more sensible option in your opinion and why?

For me it comes down to Smith being so bat##### crazy, there’s no way I could support her. The UCP candidate in my riding is a Mini Smith, and the NDP candidate is an environmentalist and conservationist but I haven’t figured out if she’s moderate or extreme (I don’t do Facebook but seems that’s where her info is). Going to be voting against UCP/Smith more than anything.
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Found on Reddit, but a list of all the terrible things the UCP has done since 2019. With sources.

Copy and pasted list here (without sources):
Spoiler!

Edit: Looks like the Google doc link has waaaay more than the spoilered list.
9 appears to be a non-sequitor and hyberbole. She didn’t steel pensions to buy a pipeline. They also didn’t steel a pension they changed oversight which likely isn’t great but it’s not stealing.

Money on the Glenbow seems like a weird transgression as is money for pickle ball
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This is a pretty damning report of how Albertans have fared economically under the UCP. Spoiler alert: it hasn't been great. #ableg

https://twitter.com/maxfawcett/statu...889361409?s=21

The Alberta Advantage is melting away:

https://albertacentral.com/insights/...-melting-away/
This is an argument for the UCP if you believe that politicians control the economy. Essentially our housing is so cheap and wages so high that we have strong migration into Alberta which is preventing labour shortages from driviNg up wages.

So by any fair read this is what should be happening to an economy that is strong. It should attract migration which suppresses wages.

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The source of the weaker wages and income growth will be explored in an upcoming report. However, preliminary findings suggest that the situation is the result of: 1) a strong migration to Alberta keeping the supply of workers higher than in other parts of the country, and 2) continued adjustment following the 2010s energy boom-bust cycle.
In reality macro economics dictates most of our economy and the government only affects the edges.

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Old 04-27-2023, 12:12 AM   #9129
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This is an argument for the UCP if you believe that politicians control the economy. Essentially our housing is so cheap and wages so high that we have strong migration into Alberta which is preventing labour shortages from driviNg up wages.

So by any fair read this is what should be happening to an economy that is strong. It should attract migration which suppresses wages.



In reality macro economics dictates most of our economy and the government only affects the edges.
A lot of the in migration is from government policy failures in other jurisdictions as well. I manage a handful of rental properties, and 2 of my last 3 new tenants have been people leaving Vancouver for cheaper rent.

Nobody in Alberta has any influence over BC real estate prices. Those are a mix of capital controls in China and artificial controls on land use in the Lower Mainland (absurd zoning + ALR).
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So here’s Smith (apparently last night) chilling with the author of the MOU that called for the overthrow of the Canadian government.

Just chilling with seditionists.

As you do (at least when you’re Smith).

#abpoli #ableg #cdnpoli

https://twitter.com/thebreakdownab/s...826644993?s=21
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Good Bless Beaverton

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So here’s Smith (apparently last night) chilling with the author of the MOU that called for the overthrow of the Canadian government.

Just chilling with seditionists.

As you do (at least when you’re Smith).

#abpoli #ableg #cdnpoli

https://twitter.com/thebreakdownab/s...826644993?s=21
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What an embarrassment. He's not just a seditionist, he's a court-proven bigot, in his own words.
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Old 04-27-2023, 08:39 AM   #9134
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“You are the average of the five people you spend the most time with.” – Jim Rohn

Alberta can do better.
No Albertans are doing fine. If one doesn’t like it one knows where the door is.
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No Albertans are doing fine. If one doesn’t like it one knows where the door is.
Leave Canada then
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Apologies if a Fata...

"Naheed Nenshi: Danielle Smith has surpassed all expectations. Not in a good way."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/nahe...-way-1.6372060
Why Fata? if there is one thing Nenshi always had going for him, it was calling people on their bs, glad he's going after Smith.

His problem was making stupid people feel stupid. Not the best way to last forever as a politician. I know IQ isn't everything but the average person is in the 50th percentile of intelligence, therefor is dumber than half the people out there, but the average person rates themselves somewhere in the 70s percentile of intelligence, people like to tell themselves they are ~60% higher on the intelligence curve than they actually are, and they really don't like having it pointed out that they aren't. But it doesn't mean we can't enjoy Nenshi pointing out that Smith is stupid.

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Leave Canada then
The fact that he can't even interpret that quote with the Danielle Smith and her loony friends picture is just gravy to his own comment.
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Can we stop quoting that ignoramus
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From the "aging poorly" pile...Sorry Jen, I really loved this quote.

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"Edmonton is the clear example of this. I mean, clearly, so much of Edmonton's flagging, sad, little ego is tied up in their hockey success that they needed to sign a scam of a deal to give a sweetheart arena over to (Oilers owner) Daryl Katz. And now all of a sudden the expectation is that Calgary is going to fall in line?"

"I'm afraid we're not that pathetic," she said. "We're just not that pathetic, as a city."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...rena-1.4313740

We are that pathetic.
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From the "aging poorly" pile...Sorry Jen, I really loved this quote.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...rena-1.4313740

We are that pathetic.
Ooof ... I usually like Jen Gerson's takes. But her words in that 2017 panel has aged worse than milk.
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