Connecticut School Shooting

[Flash Walken]

More desensitizing than stylized and pixelated artistic renderings of violence, could a decade of government instigated warfare and the daily coverage it receives contribute to the romanticism of guns, violence and death?

Nah, probably not.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

You might want the move that decimal place over to the right a bit.

311 million Americans
4.3 million NRA members.

= 1.4%

My math might be off but i stand by the post.

1.4% of the populace having that strong a voice.....can't be good.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

More desensitizing than stylized and pixelated artistic renderings of violence, could a decade of government instigated warfare and the daily coverage it receives contribute to the romanticism of guns, violence and death?

Nah, probably not.

That is indeed crazy talk.

Wasn't there a study done on it? Pretty sure I recall something about it.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by EddyBeers

Why don't all these other factors affect Canadians like they do Americans?

Who said they didn't?

In fact, I would wager that they have the same influence, but they are working with a different 'canvas' of a person who is otherwise influenced by things like 'gun culture' to possibly produce different outcomes.

Let me clear here, I do not think that video games cause violence in any direct way. I do not even think they are anything more than a very minor influence in the much larger picture. I am simply stating that exposure to violence in the media, even video game violence, especially at a young age will desensitize a person towards violence.

How this impacts someone in the long run, I really have no comment on, other than to say that a kid playing Call of Duty will likely have no noticeable increase in problems associated with this desensitization than someone who just watched your typical prime time TV.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Piers Morgan ...the guy who has his own armed body guards calling on Americans to give up their gun rights? Why doesn't that clown go back to the UK where the slaves are already disarmed?

The solution to stop mass shootings at schools is so blindingly obvious. Mass shootings always happen in gun free zones like malls, schools etc.

Israel used to have problems with psychotic Palestinians walking into jewish schools and killing kids. Their solution was to arm the schools/teachers. Maybe teachers should be mandated to use some of this "professional development" time to take firearm training courses?

Also, why doesn't the media tell their audience how all these mass shooters have mental health problems and their prescription meds cause them to snap? They wouldn't want to lose add revenue to those drug companies now would they? I think this has a bigger effect than video games.

With all due respect Mikey. I do not own a gun, and I am certainly nobodies slave.

Please don't speak for me with your lunatic views.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Piers Morgan ...the guy who has his own armed body guards calling on Americans to give up their gun rights? Why doesn't that clown go back to the UK where the slaves are already disarmed?

The solution to stop mass shootings at schools is so blindingly obvious. Mass shootings always happen in gun free zones like malls, schools etc.

Israel used to have problems with psychotic Palestinians walking into jewish schools and killing kids. Their solution was to arm the schools/teachers. Maybe teachers should be mandated to use some of this "professional development" time to take firearm training courses?

Also, why doesn't the media tell their audience how all these mass shooters have mental health problems and their prescription meds cause them to snap? They wouldn't want to lose add revenue to those drug companies now would they? I think this has a bigger effect than video games.

How about almost none of them were on meds, and the meds don't cause someone to plan a violent assault. You are wrong to think this. In fact, it couldn't be further from the truth and you're trying to distance the argument from the obvious.

Most "suicide mass murderers" are UNTREATED.

Stop with the bull####

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Azure

That is indeed crazy talk.

Wasn't there a study done on it? Pretty sure I recall something about it.

I don't understand.

[Senator Clay Davis]

*Shakes head, shrugs shoulders*

"Basically, there's three models," says Derek Williams. "A SwissGear that's made for teens, and we've got an Avengers and a Disney Princess backpack for little kids."

Williams is the president of Amendment II, a Salt Lake City-based company that manufactures lightweight body armor for law enforcement and military use. But lately they've moved into a different market: body armor for kids. Six months ago, Amendment II introduced a new line of backpacks, built with the company's signature carbon nanotube armor, designed to keep kids safe in the event of school shootings. Since Friday's massacre at a Newtown, Connecticut, elementary school, sales have gone through the roof. "I can't go into exact sales numbers, but basically we tripled our sales volume of backpacks that we typically do in a month—in one week," Williams says.

With thoughts of defenseless children seared into the national consciousness, the company doesn't plan on letting the crisis go to waste. "We want to be sensitive to how we do that, but we are gonna try to get the word out that this product does exist that there are ways to at least provide our children with some protection," Williams says.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012...ook-sales-soar

[Red Ice Player]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Piers Morgan.....drivel deleted.... video games.

What a sad, pathetic, paranoid little world you live in Mikey. I will give you credit for waiting four days before spewing your usual delusions.

[CaptainCrunch]

Apparently Mikey got internet access in his bomb shelter.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by EddyBeers

Morgan does not have armed body guards.

If he has any sense what so ever he should have now.

[afc wimbledon]

Hey Mikey, if guns keep you safe then how come this wack jobs mother who owned 5 guns got wasted first?

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by HOOT

Could you imagine if people started firing back in a dark movie theatre in Denver? Do you not think that more people could have been hurt?

What happens if the first person to take out their gun to get the attacker is shot by another person packing because it is thought in the moment they are part of the first attack?

I would say the best way to combat easy killings is by removing these dangerous types of guns like he was using. I'm sorry but there is no way this kid would be able to find access to an assault rifle if it wasn't in his home. He wasn't living in the hood in Chicago, this was little town middle of nowhere.

I just don't understand how more guns would equal less deaths. Any stats to show this?

If you are sitting in a movie theatre and someone is shooting what would you prefer? Someone with a gun that could combat the situation or everyone unarmed gettting gunned down at random? I know what I would choose.

I make this point knowing that removing guns from the public is not reallity.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

I make this point knowing that removing guns from the public is not reallity.

Why not?

Stop the sale of bullets for these guns, and they will eventualy turn into pretty paper weights.

[RogerWilco]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Yeah see the thing with cracking down on violent video games is, where does it end? OK so lets say after they successfully remove Call of Duty off the shelves another shooting happens. So you start removing violent movies and TV shows. So now we live in a happy society where nobody has access to simulated violence right? Well what about books, plays, operas and other types of performing arts with violence. So next mass shooting, you remove Macbeth, Crime and Punishment and Swan Lake since they're not really wholesome and can influence our children. Alright, so what happens if someone else goes loony and kills a bunch of children after that? Well we haven't stopped teaching about wars in school which were pretty violent. Let's stop teaching our children about WW2, since that was a horrible tragedy and you don't want young minds to be exposed to such violence. Soon you live in a sterilized bubble with armed guards everywhere and everyone packing heat. But hey, at least we preserved America's second amendment rights.

No kidding, the shooter by reports was also an expert at Dance Dance Revolution. I guess we need to ban that as well?

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by Flabbibulin

Im still not sure how to react to all the idiot religious friends i have on facebook with their posts that reference this more God in school idea. Until now I have ignored them, but Im becoming more tempted to respond. Defriending them altogether is a lame approach imo.

The really amusing part of it all being that most kids I have known that have gone to strict Christian schools come out incredibly rebellious and angry.

An online xian friend posted this in response:

Children do not die because God is not in our schools. Children do not die because God is absent. God is never absent. Children die because something tragic happens. We must make sure that tragic death is not an excuse for taking God's name in vain. Claiming the absence of God's presence anywhere will perpetuate evil as much as gun violence or physical abuse or sexual abuse or poverty or sickness or neglect. Claiming the absence of God as a cause of evil will perpetuate evil because it will turn our hearts away from the real cause of evil, our own complacency and complicity. There is nothing that separates us from the Love or presence of God, not even the evil we saw happen today. To claim anything else is blasphemy.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Minnie

An online xian friend posted this in response:

well that should clear things up

[Minnie]

Eh, I think all religion is complete and total rot but it was somewhat nice to see a different response from a xian in regards to the whole "it's because GOD!!"

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

If you are sitting in a movie theatre and someone is shooting what would you prefer? Someone with a gun that could combat the situation or everyone unarmed gettting gunned down at random? I know what I would choose.

I make this point knowing that removing guns from the public is not reallity.

Seriously? You don't think someone in a dark theatre trying to "combat the situation" would make matters worse?

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

If you are sitting in a movie theatre and someone is shooting what would you prefer? Someone with a gun that could combat the situation or everyone unarmed gettting gunned down at random? I know what I would choose.

I make this point knowing that removing guns from the public is not reallity.

Yeah just what we need. More bullets spraying everywhere in total darkness. Terribly helpful, that. No thanks.