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Old 10-11-2023, 12:53 PM   #8921
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McDavid to New York in free agency makes a lot of sense. I don't think they would want to be in a bidding war for Lindholm.

At this point a deadline trade, or walking him to free agency with hopefully a playoff run is the most likely outcome.

Goodluck to him though in trying to get a 9 plus deal in free agency. Watch him sign with San Jose or something for 8 years at less than 8.
Lindholm would probably sign for less to be in NY. Just a hunch. Gaudreau-esque contract. They could afford probably both in a few years given the cap direction.
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Old 10-11-2023, 12:53 PM   #8922
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Boquivst+Johnson are the healthy scratches for the Jackets tonight. I would be into that exact package for Lindholm for sure.

More on Pettersson speculation

https://x.com/taj1944/status/1712162...Id-kuUoekIUv4A
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What about Detroit as a landing spot for Lindholm?

Something around 1st, Veleno, 1 of Wallinder or MacIssac?

Or same trade but sub the 1st out for Kasper?

Detroit really needs a good 1b Centre option to bolster their lineup. And I think Veleno has been misused.

Veleno might have been misused, but he has yet to show that. McIsaac was just on waivers so I can't imagine he has much value.
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Old 10-11-2023, 12:58 PM   #8924
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Boquivst+Johnson are the healthy scratches for the Jackets tonight. I would be into that exact package for Lindholm for sure.

More on Pettersson speculation

https://x.com/taj1944/status/1712162...Id-kuUoekIUv4A
Pettersson for Lindholm 1 for 1 would be ideal.

They get a more defensive #1 C like Tocchett wants and we get a more offensive player who can carry a line.

Vancouver by sounds of it want to play a game that was played in the 2000's while we are trying to play a modern game.
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Old 10-11-2023, 12:59 PM   #8925
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Boquivst+Johnson are the healthy scratches for the Jackets tonight. I would be into that exact package for Lindholm for sure.

More on Pettersson speculation

https://x.com/taj1944/status/1712162...Id-kuUoekIUv4A
Boquist + Johnson is frankly beyond my expectations. That would be magnificent.

I hope it's for Lindholm and not for Pettersson.
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Pettersson for Lindholm 1 for 1 would be ideal.

They get a more defensive #1 C like Tocchett wants and we get a more offensive player who can carry a line.

Vancouver by sounds of it want to play a game that was played in the 2000's while we are trying to play a modern game.
That's just fantasy. Pettersson is coming off a 39G, 102P breakout season, he's a RFA. Lindholm is 4 years older, coming off a 22G, 64P down season, he's an UFA.

I don't think that Vancouver would trade Pettersson for Lindholm + Andersson/Weegar + 1st.
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Yeah, there's nothing that we could do to compel Vancouver to trade us Pettersson.

Hoping for a 3 way also seems stupid- why wouldn't the middle team just keep Pettersson?

Pettersson being out there could hold down Lindy's trade value significantly though.
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Yeah, there's nothing that we could do to compel Vancouver to trade us Pettersson.

Hoping for a 3 way also seems stupid- why wouldn't the middle team just keep Pettersson?

Pettersson being out there could hold down Lindy's trade value significantly though.
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A Petterson to calgary deal would at minimum have to mirro the tkachuk trade.

Lindholm + hanifin + 1st + 3rd is the closest we could offer.

I think vancouver would be stupid to take this package for petterson and not go for younger players. The boqvist + Johnson would be a better package for them imo.

Getting boqvist + Johnson for lindholm would be an absolute homerun for this team.
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Old 10-11-2023, 01:22 PM   #8930
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To be fair, I can still easily see Lindholm signing here, it will just be a longer process now and the Flames will likely hold at their $8.6 and Lindholm at $9.3.

What I believe dissentowners sources are off on was the $9mil Flames offer and the fact that it was being signed imminently. It's off from every other insider and I can't see Lindholm being ready to sign it a deal that big and then suddenly they're not close again.
To be fair I implied I expected it shortly because I believed that $9M would be where they ended up. The source just stated the last offer the Flames put forward was 9MAAV x 8.
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Old 10-11-2023, 01:50 PM   #8931
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Getting boqvist + Johnson for lindholm would be an absolute homerun for this team.

Columbus is such a mess right now that I actually wouldn't be surprised if they would do this now. I didn't think that before Babcock got fired but now everything is up in the air again and Jarmo has to be feeling the heat. He may simply not have time to wait for Johnson to figure out the center position and clearly he hasn't yet if they are playing Laine as a C (lol).
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To be fair I implied I expected it shortly because I believed that $9M would be where they ended up. The source just stated the last offer the Flames put forward was 9MAAV x 8.
At $9M AAV, it is an overpay but not a huge one. At some point, Conroy has to draw a line and move on if this player doesn't want to be here without a significant overpay. Start figuring out the trade market sooner than later and hopefully you can get some pieces that help the team now and in the future.
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A Petterson to calgary deal would at minimum have to mirro the tkachuk trade.

Lindholm + hanifin + 1st + 3rd is the closest we could offer.

I think vancouver would be stupid to take this package for petterson and not go for younger players. The boqvist + Johnson would be a better package for them imo.

Getting boqvist + Johnson for lindholm would be an absolute homerun for this team.
I put this a page or 2 back but I went with:

Lindholm+Hanifin+Dube for Pettersson+Garland. I think the Flames likely need to add a pick or prospect but it is basically a version of the Tkachuk trade where a RFA aged player is moved for 2 stud UFA aged guys. I thought them dumping Garland and picking up Dube made up for the difference but the Flames likely need to add a 1st or decent prospect. The fact it is a western Canadian rival makes it even less likely to occur.
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I put this a page or 2 back but I went with:

Lindholm+Hanifin+Dube for Pettersson+Garland. I think the Flames likely need to add a pick or prospect but it is basically a version of the Tkachuk trade where a RFA aged player is moved for 2 stud UFA aged guys. I thought them dumping Garland and picking up Dube made up for the difference but the Flames likely need to add a 1st or decent prospect. The fact it is a western Canadian rival makes it even less likely to occur.
Andersson or Weegar would be required, no matter how we spin it. Hanifin likely bounces as a UFA, and I bet they’d ask for Andersson++ for Pettersson. I’d love Pettersson on this team but it would absolutely cost a pretty penny to get him, and I don’t think two pending UFAs are gonna do it.
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Just....ugh, resolve this situation already, sign or announce you're testing FA. Don't let this hang over us again.
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Just....ugh, resolve this situation already, sign or announce you're testing FA. Don't let this hang over us again.
Not a good outcome for the Flames. Having teams feel like the Flames still might have the option to sign him, is better for trade return than if they know re-signing is no longer a card Conroy holds.
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