Biden speaking live right now and just tore into Trump. Called him the most incompetent president in U.S. history, an embarrassment, and not worthy to hold the office.
Says he's fine with Trump not showing up to the inauguration, and doesn't want him there: "One of the few things he and I agree on".
It's a really good speech by the way. Man, it'll be nice having a mature adult in the WH for the next while.
Biden is a hell of a step up over Trump in terms of being reasonable and making sense, but damn is he ever boring to listen to. The way he speaks just makes me want to sleep.
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I thought the US nuclear arsenal was still controlled via the votes system. Where the President needed a vote by a cabinet member or senior political appointee, and the Joint Chiefs would still be able to determine if the order was lawful.
Its more difficult then Trump mashing a button.
It’s more difficult, but not vastly more. I don’t particularly feel like pinning the hopes of life on earth on one of Trump’s remaining circle finding their inner Denzel.
There really shouldn’t even be a button. Not one nuclear power would dare attack another at this stage, and an attack from another nuclear power is the only thing that could possibly necessitate an instant, unconsidered nuclear launch.
It’s not like you could sneak attack a nuclear opponent fast enough to eliminate all their weapons and those of their allies before they hit you back.
All a button does is create a situation where you could actually launch first. Which is how you lose a nuclear war in the first place.
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Unfortunately primarying Manchin simply results in an unelectable Democrat, and as a result an easy Republican victory in WV. Better to live with Manchin, accept that he's not a true Democrat but will be with you on more votes than most Republicans. They need a strong showing in states like Georgia (again), Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and North Carolina in 2022 and they can make Manchin irrelevant again.
Manchin is trash and really not all that indistinguishable from corporate nut-hugging Republicans.
The article says he said he loves his daughter and doesn't get involved in her business and doesn't agree with a bad stimulus plan that you believe in. Therefore he is a corporate nut-hugging republican.... and you say the left is not like the crazy right wingers.
Lindsey should have stuck with his original assessment of Trump... unlike Romney, who still can stand tall on being consistent on his views of Trump - though that apparently didn't prevent MAGA folks from berating him on an airplane
Manchin is trash and really not all that indistinguishable from corporate nut-hugging Republicans.
While this may be true, he fills a very needed role: a centre-left Democrat will almost certainly never win a senate seat in West Virginia anytime soon, and a progressive Democrat is even more of a pipe dream. Manchin is electable for his constituents, and without his +1 seat in the D column, we'd be looking at a 51-49 Republican-controlled senate and Moscow Mitch retaining his position as Majority Leader. The winning strategy for Democrats is to run electable moderates in red states and leftist progressive candidates in safe blue states.
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The article says he said he loves his daughter and doesn't get involved in her business and doesn't agree with a bad stimulus plan that you believe in. Therefore he is a corporate nut-hugging republican.... and you say the left is not like the crazy right wingers.
What's the equivalence here?
Left wingers called a crappy politician and his POS daughter trash for price gouging and putting lives at risk.
Right wingers have and continue to stage a violent insurrection in an attempt to overthrow the government, they spread dangerous conspiracy theories, ignore public health directives putting millions of lives at risk, oh and they vote people like Manchin into office and think he's a hero of capitalism.
Hey, perhaps you should take a look at some data. I can help you with that. Data analyst.
I can bring you through everything as simple as you possibly need. Just in case your arrogance is because of your intellectual capacity or out of lack of research.
But yes, if you take the time to look at the statistical data, proven through multiple different methods, you would see, through no other speculation, that the numbers that have been certified are mathematically impossible and in other cases mathematically improbable to degrees your brain couldn't comprehend.
edit: you can't cure stupid, and you can only bring a horse to water. You can not make it drink. You may support an illigitiment president, however I will not have my name go down supporting what is, in essence, a dictator by definition.
If you want to take a look, do it yourself, compare the standard deviation of voting turnout in PA as an example, compare it to the past 5 elections just to save time. Do it yourself. Let me know your results. If you want something else, once again compare the voter disparity in votes after precisely 3:42am. Let me know the probability.
As someone with a degree in math (there is no fata-ing 'S' at the end you non americans!!!!) and a job as an informatics analyst, I can confidently say that I thought this entire post was a copy pasta joke until reading further.
I just don't have the mental capacity for stuff this dumb.
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While this may be true, he fills a very needed role: a centre-left Democrat will almost certainly never win a senate seat in West Virginia anytime soon, and a progressive Democrat is even more of a pipe dream. Manchin is electable for his constituents, and without his +1 seat in the D column, we'd be looking at a 51-49 Republican-controlled senate and Moscow Mitch retaining his position as Majority Leader. The winning strategy for Democrats is to run electable moderates in red states and leftist progressive candidates in safe blue states.
Until Manchin starts voting with Republicans in the Senate on hotbutton issues in his state. Then he won't be such a necessary evil, he'll just be regular evil.
Biden is a hell of a step up over Trump in terms of being reasonable and making sense, but damn is he ever boring to listen to. The way he speaks just makes me want to sleep.
After the gong-show of the last four years, boring is a nice change.
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Until Manchin starts voting with Republicans in the Senate on hotbutton issues in his state. Then he won't be such a necessary evil, he'll just be regular evil.
Which he hasn't done yet. On any big issues where he potentially could have been the decisive vote (Trump's impeachment trial, confirming ACB and Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, etc.) he's reliably voted with his Democratic caucus members even though that likely cost him support with his constituents in WV.
Left wingers called a crappy politician and his POS daughter trash for price gouging and putting lives at risk.
Right wingers have and continue to stage a violent insurrection in an attempt to overthrow the government, they spread dangerous conspiracy theories, ignore public health directives putting millions of lives at risk, oh and they vote people like Manchin into office and think he's a hero of capitalism.
Not all crazy is created equal.
Of course, not equal. It's just tiresome to see these lazy arguments attacking every moderate Democrat as a corporate nut-hugger when the Democrat is just making a reasonable stance against a bad idea.
I've yet to hear one good argument why these $2000 checks are a good idea or what problem they'll solve.
Until Manchin starts voting with Republicans in the Senate on hotbutton issues in his state. Then he won't be such a necessary evil, he'll just be regular evil.
There literally is not a single issue or even grouping of issues that he could vote with republicans on that matter as much as the fact that he makes Schumer the majority leader, which gives the dems the ability to chair every committee, get their judicial nominees through the senate, get their cabinet through the senate, get their government appointments through the senate, make Sanders chairman of the Senate Budget committee. But the left worries about how he votes on a single issue or two. It would almost be laughable if it was not so sad. Somebody probably will primary him, he will win the primary and then god-willing win in 2024 because once Manchin is gone the Dems will never win a Senate seat again in West Virginia in my lifetime.
In West Virginia’s other senate seat the Republican won 62-34 in 2014. That was the nail biter, as she won 70-27 this year. In a state where the GOP is +40 on the Dems, Manchin wins and continues to win.
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Of course, not equal. It's just tiresome to see these lazy arguments attacking every moderate Democrat as a corporate nut-hugger when the Democrat is just making a reasonable stance against a bad idea.
I've yet to hear one good argument why these $2000 checks are a good idea or what problem they'll solve.
You've heard several. You just don't care because you don't happen to be the type of person who could use one.
You've heard several. You just don't care because you don't happen to be the type of person who could use one.
There is no reason that 75% of a 400 billion dollar plus initiative should go to people who aren't financially affected by COVID or are in need. Now that the Democrats have all levels of government, the right thing to do is figure out a way to get all of that 400 billion to the 25% who are out of work, or lost their small business, or are otherwise affected.
Giving everyone $2000 is not even a good progressive action. It's completely out of touch with the people who really need it.
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There is no reason that 75% of a 400 billion dollar plus initiative should go to people who aren't financially affected by COVID or are in need. Now that the Democrats have all levels of government, the right thing to do is figure out a way to get all of that 400 billion to the 25% who are out of work, or lost their small business, or are otherwise affected.
Giving everyone $2000 is not even a good progressive action. It's completely out of touch with the people who really need it.
Okay, so how do you means test in a quick way to determine who needs it? Is it just those who are unemployed? What about the ones who don't qualify for unemployment? How about people who aren't unemployed but have seen their hours or wages reduced?
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There is no reason that 75% of a 400 billion dollar plus initiative should go to people who aren't financially affected by COVID or are in need. Now that the Democrats have all levels of government, the right thing to do is figure out a way to get all of that 400 billion to the 25% who are out of work, or lost their small business, or are otherwise affected.
Giving everyone $2000 is not even a good progressive action. It's completely out of touch with the people who really need it.
Good luck passing a bill that gives 400 billion dollars to 25% of the population, covering only the poor and in-need, in the United States of America.
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