I posted this several hundred posts ago and still have not received a satisfactory response, despite people continuing to support, or at least excuse, the rioting and looting.
I continue to await an explanation.
Not a defense of looting, but somewhat of an explanation.
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This is so wildly ignorant. How can you tell someone's life story by looking at a snapshot of them?
While they are white, so you know....
I don't think it's a particularly strong message they are sending with their protest, you have very legitimate complaints about policing in the states, and your gonna turn it into a doughnut joke hoping to bait conflict, come on. But its a much much weaker thing to criticize your allies because they don't look the way you expect.
Oh god, a middle aged white lady reading poems at an anti-racism protest. Just give me arson.
Kidding aside, that is kind of what I’m talking about along with what Cecil mentioned. These things are generally showings of “support” and they’re “anti-racism” which are really broad, ineffective gestures. A lot of the people that organise and attend these things for somewhat selfish means, or just the feeling of “I should do something” and it’s a pretty easy something.
Where were they a week ago? Where have they been while First Nations people are routinely mistreated and abused in Canada? That’s not to say “if you didn’t do that, you can’t do this” but please, if you’re someone going to one of these things, don’t let this be it. Don’t let it just be poems and hanging out in a field. Do something with whatever platform you have or create a platform. Talk to the people that can make a difference if you can’t and make change happen. Sacrifice something more than a few hours of one day.
Make this the start of you taking real action. Not just hanging out until the next feel good gathering that you can tell your friends about. Victims or prejudice and racism do not need dozens of people in a field. They need real action and real support.
Doing it a week later in another country just comes across as try hard crap by people who want to make themselves part of something to me. There's one planned for Wednesday too. There's a picture circulating to wear no identifiable clothes and cover tattoos for the Wednesday one, that just screams people who feel left out of causing some ####. Berlin and London were doing it within days, peacefully.
Edit: here it is
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CA1DdBJnX9V/
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Oh god, a middle aged white lady reading poems at an anti-racism protest. Just give me arson.
Kidding aside, that is kind of what I’m talking about along with what Cecil mentioned. These things are generally showings of “support” and they’re “anti-racism” which are really broad, ineffective gestures. A lot of the people that organise and attend these things for somewhat selfish means, or just the feeling of “I should do something” and it’s a pretty easy something.
Where were they a week ago? Where have they been while First Nations people are routinely mistreated and abused in Canada? That’s not to say “if you didn’t do that, you can’t do this” but please, if you’re someone going to one of these things, don’t let this be it. Don’t let it just be poems and hanging out in a field. Do something with whatever platform you have or create a platform. Talk to the people that can make a difference if you can’t and make change happen. Sacrifice something more than a few hours of one day.
Make this the start of you taking real action. Not just hanging out until the next feel good gathering that you can tell your friends about. Victims or prejudice and racism do not need dozens of people in a field. They need real action and real support.
You're trivializing their effort in this and making it sound like a superficial expression of support and telling them to do better in the rest of their lives while you have no knowledge of what they actually have been doing elsewhere? Give me some lady's poetry over that argument.
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God I wish CNN would stop interrupting their coverage to interview these privileged idiots from the comfort of their living rooms. They add zero insight. Except Spike Lee. I liked him.
Oh don’t worry, their union will fight the charges and they’ll be reinstated w/ back pay in no time. In the end this will have been a pointless PR stunt.
Cops enjoy protecting white murdering cops. It’s just a fact of life.
Interesting, but not surprising, that the victims names and ages are posted for all to see, yet no information about the identity of the officers other then the years they were employed.
Pretty much stayed clear of this whole thing for the most part
But to the 20 somethings that had nothing to say before this that are suddenly blowing up on social media.. great, but being a social media justice warrior while doing #### all to make or be a difference in your own life just comes across as making noise to temporarily fulfill your desire to feel a part of something while accomplishing nothing when it comes to the reality of that issue in the world.
Also painting all authorities with the same brush because of incidents that involve individuals with their own independent conscience is just small minded, mob level thinking.
People continue to define insanity by pointing at problems, expecting them to somehow go away by getting more and more riled up about them, rather than focusing on and exemplifying a solution.
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Also painting all authorities with the same brush because of incidents that involve individuals with their own independent conscience is just small minded, mob level thinking.
People continue to define insanity by pointing at problems, expecting them to somehow go away by getting more and more riled up about them, rather than focusing on and exemplifying a solution.
Yes, that's exactly the point. Nothing has changed in the US for a long time and people are riled up. What's a few bad apples a year? ....for 50 years?
The solution needs to be figured out by the police precincts, the politicians and leaders of the country.
The solution for the regular citizens? Continue teaching your kids and grandkids to be careful and wary of cops, because you don't know when they might just kill you by accident, on purpose.
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Also painting all authorities with the same brush because of incidents that involve individuals with their own independent conscience is just small minded, mob level thinking
Sorry, the bunch has been spoiled.
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Doing it a week later in another country just comes across as try hard crap by people who want to make themselves part of something to me. There's one planned for Wednesday too. There's a picture circulating to wear no identifiable clothes and cover tattoos for the Wednesday one, that just screams people who feel left out of causing some ####. Berlin and London were doing it within days, peacefully.
Edit: here it is
Spoiler!
https://www.instagram.com/p/CA1DdBJnX9V/
I don't necessarily disagree that it took too long for things to be organized in Calgary and in other countries but everyone I know who's planning on going tomorrow is intending to go peacefully... I want to show support for the people being oppressed and I'd like to be able to peacefully do so. But if there's a more impactful way to help out I'd like to hear it, can you give me some advice? Genuine question.
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