2026 Toronto Blue Jays Season Thread

[Inferno]

I don't know if this is one of them but my biggest issue with the Dodgers is how they abuse deferred contracts. There should be a limit as to how many you can sign. Like 2, maybe 3 at the most.

Yes, I know other teams can do it too but most can't. And it is an advantage. They promise players big money but as an IOU.

[Jiggy_12]

Completely insane money for a player of Tucker’s calibre. Makes Vladdy look like highway robbery.

Cant fault him for taking that. Dodgers clearly have f*** y** money and they are saying exactly that to everyone else. Lockout will be brutal because of it but they will be laughing all the way to the championship.

Hope we can still get Bo. But does this inflate his price now?

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Sure can. Jays haven't done anything comparable to the Ohtani contract. Jays situation isn't comparable to Dodgers.

You don’t really want a salary cap. You just want the Jays be able to spend the way the Dodgers do.

[Joborule]

Baseball needs a lockout. This is beyond ridiculous.

[flamingred89]

Folks that are disappointed by this news should take a look at Teo's stats and compare them to Tuckers. WAR loves a player like Tucker because he can walk a little bit. But from an actual contact and production standpoint Teo has better numbers. Teo's contract 3 years 66 Million. Tucker makes that in one year. Jays absolutely dodged a bullet here and hopefully they can refocus and resign Bo to keep the core together. Sometimes the shiny new toy isnt always the best thing.

[868904]

Originally Posted by flamingred89

Folks that are disappointed by this news should take a look at Teo's stats and compare them to Tuckers. WAR loves a player like Tucker because he can walk a little bit. But from an actual contact and production standpoint Teo has better numbers. Teo's contract 3 years 66 Million. Tucker makes that in one year. Jays absolutely dodged a bullet here and hopefully they can refocus and resign Bo to keep the core together. Sometimes the shiny new toy isnt always the best thing.

Teo is a liability in the field, Tucker is a gold glove outfielder.

[browna]

I really don’t think anyone figured Tucker, not himself, would get $60MM a year even this time last week.

Again I think the Jays got a bit smug with the money and term they could offer that Tucker, I think he was genuinely interested in it, and Jays could’ve locked him down earlier than this (ie a week or 10 days ago) and he would have made only $30 or $35MM a year for 6 or 7 years.

Blame the slow moving Jays for a top guy, again IMO. Yes I know they got the other business done with good players. In my opinion those signings are directly related to the good vibes the organization got from being observed in the WS in addition to the slight overpays that Rogers have to make…all good, those players don’t come to Toronto in previous years even for the same money.

Yes also blame the Mets for coming late to the party and raising the stakes with Tucker a few days ago, which allowed the Dodgers to sweep in and scoop him. But if the Jays were more aggressive before the Mets started to panic this would’ve been done already.

So, the real big fish got away, again, from the Jays.

Outside of winning a WS upcoming and having that goodwill to go along with Rogers cash, it pretty much shows that the true top guys aren’t going to choose Toronto.

Really, it’s time for last years shiny toy in Santander to step up.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Tucker is also a decent base runner too. Like he's a very good player, but $60 million per is comical. $40 million would have been a slight overpay so this is egregious, but doesn't matter for the Dodgers if he flops.

[dustyanddaflames]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

You don’t really want a salary cap. You just want the Jays be able to spend the way the Dodgers do.

Yes - we all want the Jays to acquire talent as easily as the Dodgers do. Absolutely. But there is something fundamentally wrong when you don’t hear from 25 clubs from September to March.

I hate how easy it is for the dodgers to do this. But I also hate how hard it is for a large majority of clubs to attempt to do it too.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

You don’t really want a salary cap. You just want the Jays be able to spend the way the Dodgers do.

Salary cap may or may not be the best way to go. I don't know. But what I do know is that the status quo is horrible and quite frankly embarrassing. No team should be able to defer unlimited amounts of salary to the future the way the Dodgers have, and simply buy championships.

[flamingred89]

Originally Posted by 868904

Teo is a liability in the field, Tucker is a gold glove outfielder.

And that's worth an extra 40million per year? Myles Straw is a gold glover and he can barely crack a lineup.

[ben voyonsdonc]

It might be copium talking but hear me out.

I think Tucker going to the Dodgers is the best option if he didn’t end up with the Blue Jays.

1) To win the World Series, you have to get to the World Series. Having him out of the AL helps that.

2) I think one Goliath team is better than 2-3 super teams. All it takes is one David to take down a team that has a bad stretch. Sometimes sheer talent doesn’t end up winning in baseball. We were going to be underdogs against the Dodgers even if they didn’t have Tucker. If a team manages to upset the Dodgers en route to the World Series, you could see a much more beatable team represent the NL in the World Series.

3) Beating the Dodgers in the World Series would be even sweeter now.

[flamingred89]

I think Im more just annoyed at how dumb this contract is and what this is going to do to skew contracts going forward. He's a good player. But he's not even a top 25 player in the league getting 60 million a year. He is getting paid the same amount as Schwarber and Alonso are combined for next season. And those two had 95HR and 270RBI combined between them. Tucker isnt even a marketable guy. He's not going to hit bombs at the All Star game. He's not going to bring swag to your lineup. You can pay the Ohtani's, Soto's and Guerrero's more than they're worth because of what they mean for the sport and the communities they come from. Tucker is just a vanilla dude who is somewhat good at the game of baseball.

God. Why did Hoffman have to give up that meatball to Rojas. If the Jays had a ring for beating those clowns this would be kind of funny...

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

It might be copium talking but hear me out.

I think Tucker going to the Dodgers is the best option if he didn’t end up with the Blue Jays.

1) To win the World Series, you have to get to the World Series. Having him out of the AL helps that.

2) I think one Goliath team is better than 2-3 super teams. All it takes is one David to take down a team that has a bad stretch. Sometimes sheer talent doesn’t end up winning in baseball. We were going to be underdogs against the Dodgers even if they didn’t have Tucker. If a team manages to upset the Dodgers en route to the World Series, you could see a much more beatable team represent the NL in the World Series.

3) Beating the Dodgers in the World Series would be even sweeter now.

Yeah. I’m more upset at the principle of what happened than I am at losing out on this specific player. He is very good but not the difference maker that contract would indicate. He is not a Judge or an Ohtani, he’s not even a Soto.
He’s not even a Vladdy IMO.

Oh well.

[FireGilbert]

lol ffs

[browna]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

It might be copium talking but hear me out.

I think Tucker going to the Dodgers is the best option if he didn’t end up with the Blue Jays.

1) To win the World Series, you have to get to the World Series. Having him out of the AL helps that.

2) I think one Goliath team is better than 2-3 super teams. All it takes is one David to take down a team that has a bad stretch. Sometimes sheer talent doesn’t end up winning in baseball. We were going to be underdogs against the Dodgers even if they didn’t have Tucker. If a team manages to upset the Dodgers en route to the World Series, you could see a much more beatable team represent the NL in the World Series.

3) Beating the Dodgers in the World Series would be even sweeter now.

Sure maybe but him going to the Mets wouldn’t have been terrible either because they’d be one of those teams maybe taking in the Dodgers on. Though losing Diaz and Alonso, they may be in tough.

Jays are going to be in tough still IMO to get to the WS even with the upgrades on paper.

The Padres tried to build a team to take on the Dodgers and are dismantling it now. Dodgers didn’t enter the playoffs that hot last year so they aren’t invincible, but they can turn it up come playoffs because that’s all those players really care about.

[Inferno]

I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you. I was expecting more than that though.

https://twitter.com/user/status/2012010376410624029

[mile]

Ughhh


Come back Bo. Match whatever the Phillies offer

[KootenayFlamesFan]

DH: George Springer
CF: Daulton Varsho
1B: Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
RF: Addison Barger
C: Alejandro Kirk
LF: Anthony Santander
3B: Kazuma Okamoto
2B: Ernie Clement
SS: Andrew Gimenez

I mean.........that's still a pretty solid lineup. Obviously a lot rests on Santander getting his act together and if Okamoto can hit well in the MLB. Getting Bo back would be huge but I'm not counting on it. But there's always trades and whatnot during the season. I'm already pumped for next season.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by dustyanddaflames

Yes - we all want the Jays to acquire talent as easily as the Dodgers do. Absolutely. But there is something fundamentally wrong when you don’t hear from 25 clubs from September to March.

I hate how easy it is for the dodgers to do this. But I also hate how hard it is for a large majority of clubs to attempt to do it too.

I hear you 1000%.

But frankly Jays fans are living the high life right now. Outspending every other AL team and I’m not sure they’re done yet. Would anyone be upset if Bichette and Framber sign tomorrow and Jays carry a $350 million payroll.

As is, Dodgers are only a concern at the World Series. Jays are winning the arms race amongst their competitors to get to that point. If you bring in an actual salary cap, that changes.

Historically well run organizations like the Cardinals are the ones getting shafted here.