Official WWE/ECW/WCW/TNA talk, or whatever v2

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Don't get me wrong, the main event was good (aside from the very predictable ending). I loved Punk's entrance and the video that played right before it.

But prior to the ME, I felt like I had just been watching an episode of Raw or SD. No wow factor.

Yeah, still think that has to do with the build and how it was booked though.

The matches themselves had some really cool stuff (Reverse 450 Senton!) but the build was just poor.

Jey vs Gunther was fine IMO and I think hating on Jey is just the IWC's thing right now, but the match was okay. The finish felt off, but think it was a call to how fast Gunthier tapped out against Ilya to lose the NXT title.

New Day vs War Raiders...this one felt like a Raw match...really should have been Smackdown Tag TLC tonight (which had a much better build) and then this match on Raw After Mania.

Jade vs Naomi ... TBH they probably should have just had this be a triple threat with Bianca too. Would have been a less awkward close to the story and would have helped protect Jade more. Iyo vs Rhea could have carried on it's own, or even Iyo vs Rhea vs Liv would have made sense too.

Fatu with LA Knight... thought this was a good match. Fatu is a future star. The Moonsault into the BFT was cool even if the camera's didn't catch it well.

El Grande Amerianco vs Rey Fenix ... have to think there was something more planned here that was thrown for a swerve with Mysterio being hurt but the 450 reverse senton was crazy and still a decent match as a whole.

Tiffany vs Charlotte... personally I thought it was fine. They were super stiff, and ended up being a bit sloppy but the match and intensity felt pretty real.

Main Event ... the ending was predictable but was executed to perfection. Which is the good type of predictable, don't need any of the Vince McMahon swerve for a sake of a swerve in that match.

I'd probably give it like a 7.5 / 10 as a whole. Lots of 7/10 matches with only the Main Event being a great match. But 39 and 40 were so great that it's disappointing comparatively.

[SuperMatt18]

Tommorow night should be better:

Iyo vs Bianca vs Rhea ... could probably steal the show.

Intercontinental 4 Way ... has been a good build and lots of potential.

Styles vs Logan Paul ... could go either way but I expect them to have something up their sleeves.

Preist vs McIntyre ... going to be an absolute brawl

Women's Tag Team ... kind of weird to drop Bailey but I guess we can see what happens.

Orton vs ??? also a bit of a wait an see (bit weird to have both of the surprise performer matches tonight).

Rhodes vs Cena...I'm expecting a lot of shenanigans similar to last years main event.

Had they flipped the womens title matches, and Orton vs ??? and the El Grande Americano match it probably would have balanced the cards a little better for sure.

[LIP MAN]

Night 2 will likely be better. Was a bit of a snooze fest until the main event. Really liked Tiffy’s entrance BTW. They used some hologram tech for it.

[dammage79]

Just wanted to add a thought on Jade vs. Naomi. To me it looked more like poorly executed choreography vs. bad wrestling. I guess that is bad wrestling maybe but I don't recallajor botches that would put either in physical danger, just that some of the power moves took a couple.attempts to execute or the timing was off or the prompt signals were missed a couple of times.

Very 80s style wrestling.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I see that Steve Austin and Bret Hart went into the hall of fame for their match at WM13. That match was awesome and probably kick started the attitude era. What a terrible WM tho lol. I think that’s when Sid pooped himself and Undertaker went to tombstone him and almost fainted because poop was everywhere.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Just wanted to add a thought on Jade vs. Naomi. To me it looked more like poorly executed choreography vs. bad wrestling. I guess that is bad wrestling maybe but I don't recallajor botches that would put either in physical danger, just that some of the power moves took a couple.attempts to execute or the timing was off or the prompt signals were missed a couple of times.

Very 80s style wrestling.

If it was a one-off from Jade, I might agree with you, but this is just who she is.

[rubecube]

Is the stream quality complete ass for anyone else?

[SuperMatt18]

Mine is fine right now

[trackercowe]

Incredible match! That's match of the night right there. Those women always put on a show. Bianca might be the most athletic wrestler in the world.

[SuperMatt18]

Is that the best WWE Women's match ever? Might be

[SuperMatt18]

Well Sunday is off to a much better start than Saturday, at all timer levels through 2 matches

[rubecube]

Not sure why WWE felt the need to advertise Cena for Australia tonight. I thought the whole build was that he was retiring with the title if he won tonight. Feels like the stakes aren't as high now.

[rubecube]

2/2 on good matches tonight.

[TheIronMaiden]

I'd like to watch a dirty dom vs el grande americano match to determine who the greatest luchadore of all time is.

[rubecube]

Feels like the crowd either isn't that hot or they've done a #### job of mic'ing the audience.

[TheIronMaiden]

Wow. What a match.

[trackercowe]

Fantastic night two so far. 3/3

[dammage79]

3 matches, 3 consecutive matches of the night in a row.

[dammage79]

Perhaps the most perfect RKO ever caught on camera??

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Perhaps the most perfect RKO every caught on camera??

Love how they captured it. What a WrestleMania moment that was.