10-31-2020, 06:22 PM
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#8501
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
He's also clearly wrong in suggesting that this is just about voting against Trump and Biden doesn't deserve any credit. The votes Biden will get are, in large part, votes expressly for Biden. Biden is an avatar of normalcy and stability and nothing about him seems crazy or extreme, He's more or less completely unoffensive, unless you're on the extreme wing of one party or another. The worst thing that Trump could come up with as a moniker for him was "Sleepy Joe". His big scandal to lob in Biden's direction is that his son is corrupt. Trump and company have repeatedly attempted to characterize him as someone beholden to the far left, which hasn't worked. And all Biden has had to say was, "Come on. You know me." Yeah, they absolutely do.
And you can debate whether he's honest, or if you need to grade on a "politician" curve to get there, but he comes across as direct and believable in a way that many other politicians, including most of the people in the democratic primaries not named Sanders or Yang, did not. Those people came across as rehearsed, fake politicians. This guy is who he seems to be. Hell, he doesn't even seem like he's capable of putting on a fake politician face - I mean, just look at the gaffes he makes. For better or worse, there's no polish on him.
And current events have hidden his weaknesses as a candidate at the same time as they've played into his strengths. In light of COVID, the fact that he's not maintaining a normal presidential campaign schedule doesn't make him look old and frail to the extent it would have in other years. COVID also makes him an inspired choice in that he doesn't have to shout over a disaster to introduce himself to the nation or explain what he stands for. He can say, "I'll fight for your health care, I did it before", and whether or not you like the way he and Obama dealt with health care policy or support the ACA, at least you have good reason to believe him.
And crucially, unlike last time when you had a candidate in Clinton who everyone viewed as shady and corrupt lecturing and preaching at the country about how Trump was a really bad person you guys, just deplorable, this time you have this guy.
I mean, whatever you think about him, he actually is the guy in those videos. He doesn't need to preach overmuch about being decent to people, because he actually comes across like a good, decent person. Lindsey Graham was actually honest for once in his life when he called him the nicest person in politics:
You can wish he was more progressive policy wise, or you can be concerned about him catering to the identitarian wing of the policy, or a thousand other things depending on your personal political ideology and the issues that matter to you. But he's turned out to be absolutely the right nominee for the Democrats in this cycle among the people who were on offer, and he's run his campaign more or less perfectly.
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He literally got a face lift and hair plugs. The guy's as slimy as they come.
And he gropes little girls.
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10-31-2020, 06:32 PM
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#8502
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Originally Posted by Magnum PEI
He literally got a face lift and hair plugs. The guy's as slimy as they come.
And he gropes little girls.
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Keep trying... you're wasting your time with this stuff, as is everyone else who's peddling it.
There's a reason that those attacks don't work. Perception is reality in politics. You can't make people think he's a socialist, and you can't make people think he's slimy, because he doesn't appear that way. And that has made him an excellent candidate.
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10-31-2020, 06:32 PM
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#8503
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bizkitgto
(Biden) He's no saint, the system is broken. If he wins, people shouldn't celebrate, but mourn the loss of the Republic.
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And what should happen if Trump wins?
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10-31-2020, 06:36 PM
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#8504
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Originally Posted by Aarongavey
The Flames could have used the Kavanaugh rule whereby the game ends with 2 minutes left in the third period. They would have won the first round. Trump's lackies are already doing his bidding, Kavanaugh already threw out what will likely be 20-30K votes in Wisconsin. Next up is the GOP lawsuit launched today in Houston for Harris County trying to throw out 127,000 votes that have already been cast. Pretty sure Kavanaugh and his conservative sidekicks on the SCOTUS will toss those votes as well.
It is time that Article 3, Section 2 of the Constitution is properly invoked by Congress. The SCOTUS should only have jurisdiction for cases involving Ambassadors and where the State is a named party. All other cases should be decided by the 13 circuit courts. That would be consistent with an originalist interpretation of the Constitution and should gain overwhelming support from Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, Thomas, ACB and Alito (although their support would not be necessary as they would not have jurisdiction to hear the case)
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As much crap as kavanaugh deserves for his freshman level concurrence on the Wisconsin ruling he was technically correct. The laws of Wisconsin do not allow votes to be counted if not received in time. The far right legislature saw fit to make accommodations for covid so a lower court judge did based on common sense. But it doesn’t change the law as far as the SOC is concerned unfortunately.
Take comfort though that while the SOC will enforce laws they won’t change then. Unless there’s a law somewhere that stops vote counting at midnight they at least can’t do that. We hope.
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10-31-2020, 06:38 PM
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#8505
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What does SOC stand for? I understand that you're talking about the Supreme Court, I'm just puzzled by the "O".
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10-31-2020, 06:45 PM
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#8506
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by calculoso
And what should happen if Trump wins?
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Maybe then you’ll finally admit the system is broken, rather than pray for another corrupt Democrat to win in 2024.
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10-31-2020, 07:07 PM
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#8507
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Join Date: May 2004
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Ah I knew your rhetoric felt familiar.
It's the "Burn it all down" stance.
What's your username on Bread & Roses?
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Settle down there, Temple Grandin.
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10-31-2020, 07:09 PM
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#8508
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bizkitgto
Maybe then you’ll finally admit the system is broken, rather than pray for another corrupt Democrat to win in 2024.
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So what you’re saying is:
Biden - mourn
Trump - Bizkitgto is right and happy
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10-31-2020, 07:16 PM
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#8509
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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10-31-2020, 07:21 PM
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#8510
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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10-31-2020, 07:22 PM
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#8511
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evil of fart
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Haha, dopes.
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10-31-2020, 07:22 PM
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#8512
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Originally Posted by bizkitgto
Trump deserves to rot in jail just as much as Obama, Clinton and Biden do... why did they destroy Libya again? They destroyed a country... and got away with it. Following the Clean Break memo, just as Bush and the neo-cons did. But we don’t want to talk about that. We can all pretend Biden is a “good man”, for the sake of the Republic, right?
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Someone needs to educate themselves on Libya's history 
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10-31-2020, 07:25 PM
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#8513
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Waitaminute... In-N-Out is in Texas now?
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10-31-2020, 07:27 PM
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#8514
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Someone needs to educate themselves on Libya's history |
I would say someone needs some education period. What a train wreck.
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10-31-2020, 07:33 PM
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#8515
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Originally Posted by New Era
I would say someone needs some education period. What a train wreck.
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I give you official mod permission to go full old school Lanny on them
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10-31-2020, 07:34 PM
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#8516
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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10-31-2020, 07:37 PM
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#8517
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Uneducated white men you say? huh.
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10-31-2020, 07:39 PM
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#8518
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bizkitgto
Trump deserves to rot in jail just as much as Obama, Clinton and Biden do... why did they destroy Libya again? They destroyed a country... and got away with it. Following the Clean Break memo, just as Bush and the neo-cons did. But we don’t want to talk about that. We can all pretend Biden is a “good man”, for the sake of the Republic, right?
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You know less about Libya than I know about playing a clarinet, what exactly do you think that NATO did in that civil war that (quite rarely for the region) started organically with no western interference, what we did, including Canada, was enforce a no fly zone and degrade from the air Ghaddafi's air force and armour, that was it, it was possibly absurdly hopeful to think that what was essentially a tribal conflict would lead to a democratic Libya but it was also absolutely clear that the alternative was a regime led ethnic cleansing of the western tribes of Hutu Tutsi like proportions using their massive air and armour advantage.
I suppose you could argue we should have just let the slaughter happen, none of our business etc, we need the Oil, you know, like we are doing in Yemen, personally I think what we did was a brave attempt to unscramble an egg that was ulitmately the most moral pathway
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10-31-2020, 07:59 PM
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#8519
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Does Biden have Secret Service body guards? If so, they should just shoot those hillbillies.
Although I guess the PR would probably not be good.
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10-31-2020, 08:02 PM
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#8520
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Why would Biden be campaigning in Texas three days before the election? Seems like a terrible use of his time.
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