2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Hockey-and_stuff

Pretty rare a player walks away from guaranteed money. 3.9 million in cap space off the books for both Washington and Carolina.

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I forgot that Washington is off the hook now too. That really helps them.

Carolina is going to be looking for someone now. Kadri??

[Hockey-and_stuff]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

I forgot that Washington is off the hook now too. That really helps them.



Carolina is going to be looking for someone now. Kadri??

I'm wondering if they take that extra 4 million and sign Necas. Doesn't help their C issue but keeps a valuable player on the roster.

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[Icon]

Originally Posted by Hockey-and_stuff

I'm wondering if they take that extra 4 million and sign Necas. Doesn't help their C issue but keeps a valuable player on the roster.

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They still have to re-sign Jarvis too I think.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

I forgot that Washington is off the hook now too. That really helps them.

Carolina is going to be looking for someone now. Kadri??

Never say never, but Carolina has been notorious for signing cheaper deals. I can't imagine they would target Kadri considering the length of his deal and his age.

[Hockey-and_stuff]

Originally Posted by Icon

They still have to re-sign Jarvis too I think.

I did some flimsy math on capwages.com and it looks like after the contract termination they'll have around 18 million to sign Necas, Drury and Jarvis

You can probably squeeze everyone in with that much cap but it will be tight.

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[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Never say never, but Carolina has been notorious for signing cheaper deals. I can't imagine they would target Kadri considering the length of his deal and his age.

Also I doubt the Flames would want to retain over 5 years.

Not happening.

[Bourque's Twin]

Originally Posted by Ped

The Flames do not have too many forwards. If you can't crack the lineup of a team widely expected to be bad, then losing you to another team is not going to be the end of the world.

It will be hard for Coronato and Pelletier to crack the top 9 on this team, and it would be nice for them to each get a legit shot at it. I don't think 4th line time for either of them is best. I don't think Coronato has anything to prove in the AHL and Pelletier didn't either before his injury.

How about this? Balanced lines.
Kuzmenko - Kadri - Pospisil
Coronato - Zary - Huberdeau
Pelletier - Sharangovich - Mantha
Lomberg - Backlund - Coleman

None of the C's above should be a 4th line C. The only true 4th liner is Lomberg.

[Bingo Jr.]

Pospisil - Kadri - Sharangovich
Pelletier - Backlund - Coleman
Huberdeau - Zary - Coronato
Lomberg - Schwindt/Morton - Klapka

I hope the lines look something like this before or around deadline after moving Mantha and Kuz. Getting Pelts and Coronato reps in the top 9 consistently is important, I just don't see space with the forwards we have to start the season unless they have monster camps.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin

It will be hard for Coronato and Pelletier to crack the top 9 on this team, and it would be nice for them to each get a legit shot at it. I don't think 4th line time for either of them is best. I don't think Coronato has anything to prove in the AHL and Pelletier didn't either before his injury.

How about this? Balanced lines.
Kuzmenko - Kadri - Pospisil
Coronato - Zary - Huberdeau
Pelletier - Sharangovich - Mantha
Lomberg - Backlund - Coleman

None of the C's above should be a 4th line C. The only true 4th liner is Lomberg.

I prefer this...

Mantha - Kadri - Sharangovich
Huberdeau - Zary - Kuzmenko
Pelletier - Backlund - Coleman
Lomberg - Pospisil - Klapka


This will be Zary's first real stretch as a C in the NHL so I put him with Huberdeau and Kuzmenko since those guys need some sheltering to be at their most effective anyways, Pelletier takes Mangiapane's old spot since I figure that's his future role on the team anyways and it's time to see how he does in it, Pospisil goes down to the 4th line since he's better suited to that line then the alternatives as it's traditionally been deployed... we make it up to him by giving him the more important role and making him the C on the line.

Coronato starts with the Wranglers. He's waver exempt, he didn't really show that he's a full-time NHL player last year, and I'd rather he play big important minutes in the A and force his way up and establish himself like Zary did last year.

[WickerChicken]

Originally Posted by Parallex

I prefer this...

Mantha - Kadri - Sharangovich
Huberdeau - Zary - Kuzmenko
Pelletier - Backlund - Coleman
Lomberg - Pospisil - Klapka


This will be Zary's first real stretch as a C in the NHL so I put him with Huberdeau and Kuzmenko since those guys need some sheltering to be at their most effective anyways, Pelletier takes Mangiapane's old spot since I figure that's his future role on the team anyways and it's time to see how he does in it, Pospisil goes down to the 4th line since he's better suited to that line then the alternatives as it's traditionally been deployed... we make it up to him by giving him the more important role and making him the C on the line.

Coronato starts with the Wranglers. He's waver exempt, he didn't really show that he's a full-time NHL player last year, and I'd rather he play big important minutes in the A and force his way up and establish himself like Zary did last year.

I like these lines! I can only image the excitement and chaos the Lomberg - Pospisil - Klapka line will create. Our version of the Hanson brothers.

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by Parallex

I prefer this...

Mantha - Kadri - Sharangovich
Huberdeau - Zary - Kuzmenko
Pelletier - Backlund - Coleman
Lomberg - Pospisil - Klapka


This will be Zary's first real stretch as a C in the NHL so I put him with Huberdeau and Kuzmenko since those guys need some sheltering to be at their most effective anyways, Pelletier takes Mangiapane's old spot since I figure that's his future role on the team anyways and it's time to see how he does in it, Pospisil goes down to the 4th line since he's better suited to that line then the alternatives as it's traditionally been deployed... we make it up to him by giving him the more important role and making him the C on the line.

Coronato starts with the Wranglers. He's waver exempt, he didn't really show that he's a full-time NHL player last year, and I'd rather he play big important minutes in the A and force his way up and establish himself like Zary did last year.

Agree 100%
This is a good year to:
-see if Zary and/or Pospisil can cut it as a centre
-pump up the UFAs to sell at the deadline
-put Pelletier beside Backlund to learn from the master
-keep Coronato in the AHL for injury replacement and post-deadline
-integrate Klapka and Soloyov on the big club

[Enoch Root]

also pretty easy to rotate Klapka and Coronato - same with Pelletier and Stromgren

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Hockey-and_stuff

Pretty rare a player walks away from guaranteed money. 3.9 million in cap space off the books for both Washington and Carolina.

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I do wonder if there was also some risk for Kuznetsov...he's had some issues in terms of the Player Assitance program and his next strike would have left him not getting paid and possible suspension.

Trading in 1 year in North America with the risk of not getting paid...for 4 years in Russia with out that risk.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Never say never, but Carolina has been notorious for signing cheaper deals. I can't imagine they would target Kadri considering the length of his deal and his age.

Carolina also has been one the oldest teams in the league over the last few years.

I could see them bridging Jarvis and signing Necas and still having space to spend.

Kadri might have a long-term bad contract but right now to sign a near PPG player who has a great playoff track record that is younger is costing way more than $7 mil or you trade for a player that fits that description and has a better contract likely costs way more in assets to acquire.

Carolina isn't afraid to lose players knowing they seem to draft well and replace players through the system. The picks to acquire Kadri would be much less than the picks to acquire someone like Kadri who makes less and is younger.

Carolina has always shown they want to keep their picks and right now Kadri cap hit lines up to be a good bang for your buck for what he brings to the table. They are in win mode now, only reals question is does Kadri waive to go to Carolina and if the Flames asking price is too high.

For an elite team, Carolina consistently is drafting 6-10 players every draft in the last 5 years, and they have most their picks in next draft. Actually, up a 3rd down a 5th. They seem to value that and bang for your buck over what Kadri's age is

[gvitaly]

Since everyone is posting lines, here's what I would love to see to start:

Coleman - Backlund - Sharangovich

Coleman and Sharky had great chemistry while killing penalties. This would be the top matchup line that can provide offense.

Kuzmenko - Kadri - Pospisil

They were great at the end of last season. Consistently creating offense. That's the offense first line, facing the other team's 2nd line and exchanging opportunities.

Huberdeau - Zary - Mantha

This is the sheltered line, that gets mostly offensive zone faceoffs. Zary and Huberdeau looked like they started to build chemistry at the end of the season. If Mantha doesn't have chemistry with Huberdeau, then I'd try Coronato, and if that fails I would look into trying Sharangovich on the wing.

Lomberg - Rooney - Pelletier

This line can really have anyone next to Lomberg. Ideally it would have 2 fast players on it. Schwindt, Duehr, Hunt, Klapka, Morton and even Stromgren might make it.

The D is a crapshoot for now. All I have is Weegar - Miromanov in pencil. It might all change in camp. The 2 best D out of: Miromanov, Bean, Bahl, Solovyov, Pachal, Grushnikov, Poirier, Kuznetsov, Brzustewicz, Morin, and Parekh will play along side Andersson and Weegar.

I think that Solovyov will beat out a few people and one of Bahl and Solovyov will be Andersson's partner. Weegar will likely play with a more offensive D-men so that's why I'm thinking Miromanov, Poirier, Brzustewicz, or Parekh.

[Niemo]

I’d expect Rooney to be the 13th forward. Duehr may not even make the team if he is the same as last year. Hunt, Coronato, Pelletier, Klapka are the ones knocking (even though it sounds like Stromgren is very close. I’m not sure we want Coronato in a 4th line role either. He may be better served lighting up the AHL with Honzek or Stromgren until an injury or a trade of Kuzmenko or Mantha for futures.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin

It will be hard for Coronato and Pelletier to crack the top 9 on this team, and it would be nice for them to each get a legit shot at it. I don't think 4th line time for either of them is best. I don't think Coronato has anything to prove in the AHL and Pelletier didn't either before his injury.

How about this? Balanced lines.
Kuzmenko - Kadri - Pospisil
Coronato - Zary - Huberdeau
Pelletier - Sharangovich - Mantha
Lomberg - Backlund - Coleman

None of the C's above should be a 4th line C. The only true 4th liner is Lomberg.

I’ve been kicking around the forward lines for a while. Based on discussions about Mantha and the lack of picking up a center I think it will be:

Huberdeau Sharongovich Mantha
Zary Kadri Kuzmenko
Pospisil Backlund Coleman
Hunt Rooney Lomberg

Coronato
Pelletier
Duehr

One of Coronato or Pelletier starting in the AHL.

[DionTheDman]

Originally Posted by WickerChicken

I like these lines! I can only image the excitement and chaos the Lomberg - Pospisil - Klapka line will create. Our version of the Hanson brothers.

Mmmbop Hanson? I don't see excitement and chaos from them.

[Niemo]

Originally Posted by Niemo

I’d expect Rooney to be the 13th forward. Duehr may not even make the team if he is the same as last year. Hunt, Coronato, Pelletier, Klapka are the ones knocking (even though it sounds like Stromgren is very close. I’m not sure we want Coronato in a 4th line role either. He may be better served lighting up the AHL with Honzek or Stromgren until an injury or a trade of Kuzmenko or Mantha for futures.

I’m also expecting Pelletier to have taken a small step and to get the 1 wing spot left in the top 9 since he is waiver eligible. He should get some runway.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by Parallex

I prefer this...

Mantha - Kadri - Sharangovich
Huberdeau - Zary - Kuzmenko
Pelletier - Backlund - Coleman
Lomberg - Pospisil - Klapka


This will be Zary's first real stretch as a C in the NHL so I put him with Huberdeau and Kuzmenko since those guys need some sheltering to be at their most effective anyways, Pelletier takes Mangiapane's old spot since I figure that's his future role on the team anyways and it's time to see how he does in it, Pospisil goes down to the 4th line since he's better suited to that line then the alternatives as it's traditionally been deployed... we make it up to him by giving him the more important role and making him the C on the line.

Coronato starts with the Wranglers. He's waver exempt, he didn't really show that he's a full-time NHL player last year, and I'd rather he play big important minutes in the A and force his way up and establish himself like Zary did last year.

I think they want to try Mantha with Huberdeau..

Sharangovich - Kadri - Kuzmenko
Huberdeau - Zary - Mantha
Pelletier - Backlund - Coleman
Lomberg - Pospisil - Klapka

That 4th line will be a lot of fun to watch.