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Old 06-09-2023, 08:14 AM   #801
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No the stupid take was your reaction. You had a temper tantrum when you heard news you didn't want to hear so you called it an epic failure. Way to pass judgement on something that may not happen or could even turn out good
Because my opinion would be that hire would turn into epic failure. Then you said someone had to have hired a coach before to have an opinion on coaches which is laughably stupid. How many coaches have you hired? None? So why are you even speculating then, if that is the standard you believe one must have to be able to have an opinion on a coach you have no reason to be discussing it. Adios.
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Old 06-09-2023, 08:15 AM   #802
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Lol at this and Spurs thanking it

Two peas in a pod
Right? The guy says prove it like nobody can look at his posting history. Loads of proof right there.
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Old 06-09-2023, 08:19 AM   #803
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I have a different reaction when I look at that list. Except for Baertschi prior to concussions issues, none of those guys found success during or after the Flames. Is that on Huska or were they just mediocre prospects who weren't good enough to make it?
I am not saying it is one or the other, however, from my observations players development comes on opportunities they are given. Lots of times a player is held back so never develops. Other times they are thrust in the spotlight and excel.

A coach/organization can really derail someone's career in professional sports. It would be pretty crazy to think that the Oilers organization didn't ruin several top prospects careers. It's very possible Huska derailed a few careers, but I will be honest I didn't follow the heat much when he was the coach of the Heat.
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Old 06-09-2023, 08:20 AM   #804
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If the team is hiring Huska it’s possible this is a player’s hire based on exit interviews and other internal discussions. Maybe some of the FAs have communicated a desire to player for Huska, and hiring him has been deemed to be the only way to keep this team headed in the same direction.

This is absolute speculation and I hope I’m way off base, but player sentiment has to be given some consideration in this process. Certainly Huska would be best positioned to communicate a plan to win with guys he’s already coaching, but past performance is usually the best way to gauge the future, and this team isn’t flush with post season triumphs.

If the Flames are once again committing to the desires of an aging group that has produced minimal playoff success, they’re fueled by hope, not a vision. If that’s the case, the new boss seems quite similar to the old boss. If Huska is the hire, I’d fully support him, but if he’s going to be expected to make this veteran core skate with the likes of the Avs, Kings, Canes…. I think he being handed a tough gig.
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Old 06-09-2023, 08:42 AM   #805
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Assistant Coaches promoted to Head Coaches.

Somewhere out there is a strategic consulting slide deck showing what happens when you promote AC's to HC's based on several years of data across the league. If it doesn't exist, it should.

My guess is it isn't a flattering depiction of internally promoting. Good cop having to play bad cop suddenly, blueliners liking their guy and forwards not buying in, etc.

Those of us not keen on Huska is not because we think we know better than the GM or don't like Huska. It's the suspicion that AC's to HC's on average is not a great idea.

And now compounding this potential mistake is Love is likely the assistant and thus would not make a great HC promote in the future.
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Old 06-09-2023, 08:44 AM   #806
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Prove it

Anyway, should stay away if you can’t take opinions.

There is always a case behind every post I made. You may not like it but there are always some reason for it.

If they picked Huska, it has more to do with money than anything. Can’t tell me there are no more qualified candidates
Prove it? I can't imagine anything easier to prove... have you looked at your posting history? What is happening?
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Lol at this and Spurs thanking it

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Those 2 accounts are probably the same person
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I want to believe Huska is the next big thing.

But this guy was part of three coaching staffs that botched the Sam Bennett situation. Is that really the continuity we want going forward?

My other greatest hesitation is that he really seemed to clash with 18-19 yo Kylington in the AHL. Kylington
finally took a step forward when Huska was moved to the NHL and Cail MacLean took over and just let him play. And while Huska has historically gotten credit for developing big names like Duncan Keith amd Shea Weber, I do wonder if there is a disconnect between developing them and maximizing them while he had them.
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Definitely feels like there is something wonky going on.

Friedman doesn't share info on HNIC unless he is 99% sure. But Sec214 has not been wrong much, if ever, and certainly never to this degree.

I wonder if negotiations with Love took a turn or someone had a change of heart and they are now pivoting to Huska. Certainly wouldn't be ideal but, if that's the case, it's nice to have a second high quality internal candidate.
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Old 06-09-2023, 08:55 AM   #810
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If it is indeed Huska, I'm more than willing to give him a chance. But I was also pretty vocal last coaching hire (Sutter) that I was done with the team going bargain-bin hunting and they should ALWAYS go out and get proven winners regardless of the price tag. This (potential) hiring goes completely against that, so mark me down on the side that is less than excited. Again, more than willing to be proven wrong, but this is the Flames. I am fully prepared for it to blow up in their face, and back to the carousel we go.

If the Flames philosophy is to promote from within so young players get more ice time and less emphasis on acquiring veterans, than I guess that same philosophy should follow on the management staff.

Ultimately I think that Huska's success will come off the play of Markstrom, Huberdeau and other top guys having bounce-back seasons. Let's hope it all comes to fruition.
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Notice how every few days we have a new name get leaked and CP discusses the new name, this is Conroy using CP as part of his interview process.
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Definitely feels like there is something wonky going on.

Friedman doesn't share info on HNIC unless he is 99% sure. But Sec214 has not been wrong much, if ever, and certainly never to this degree.

I wonder if negotiations with Love took a turn or someone had a change of heart and they are now pivoting to Huska. Certainly wouldn't be ideal but, if that's the case, it's nice to have a second high quality internal candidate.
Connie has been a Huska fan for a long time. He was most likely going to get the job. Everyone was focused on other names.
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Notice how every few days we have a new name get leaked and CP discusses the new name, this is Conroy using CP as part of his interview process.
Hopefully he does the opposite of what we think

As for Huska, I wouldn't read much into any results with Sutter

Sutter by all accounts does things his way and doesn't even consult other coaches
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The double standard here is hilarious by some people.

Sutter is the best the players are snowflakes because he had a Vezina goalie and star players over 100 points it was all Sutter.

Love it was all Wolf never mind his teams performed and top players performed at top levels it was all Wolf.
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I want to believe Huska is the next big thing.

But this guy was part of three coaching staffs that botched the Sam Bennett situation. Is that really the continuity we want going forward?

My other greatest hesitation is that he really seemed to clash with 18-19 yo Kylington in the AHL. Kylington
finally took a step forward when Huska was moved to the NHL and Cail MacLean took over and just let him play. And while Huska has historically gotten credit for developing big names like Duncan Keith amd Shea Weber, I do wonder if there is a disconnect between developing them and maximizing them while he had them.
Ryan Huska coaches the defense...hard to put a lot of the blame for Bennett on him.

Andersson, Kylington, Zadorov, Hanifin, all took steps forward in development under him IMO.

His only real failure IMO would be Valimaki...but we've also heard Sutter just didn't really like the player either and it was really when Sutter came on board that things really went south for Valimaki.

Also think you are misremembering on Huska/Kylington. Kylington played 47 games as an 18 year old under Huska, and then took a step in year two playing 60 games and had 27 points and was a +3 under Huska, and then had a good third season under Huska as well with 35 points. His offense took off under Maclean in 18-19 but he literally only played 21 games for the guy, spread across two seasons.

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Ryan Huska coaches the defense...hard to put a lot of the blame for Bennett on him.

Andersson, Kylington, Zadorov, Hanifin, all took steps forward in development under him IMO.

His only real failure IMO would be Valimaki...but we've also heard Sutter just didn't really like the player either and it was really when Sutter came on board that things really went south for Valimaki.
I don't think he had anything to do with Bennett either not sure why we have to bring him up in every conversation.

He is still making those same dumb plays in Florida.

The person who ruined Bennett is in Edmonton now anyways.

If it is Huska hopefully the staff around him is strong at running the powerplay and bench. We can't have a Jim Playfair situation again with a coach with zero respect and unable to match lines on the road.
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Love stinks?
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Huska Du? More like Huska DONT!
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