[Signing] Gaudreau to Columbus (7 x $9.75 million) - Page 41 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

dino7c · 07-13-2022, 08:11 PM

The guy doesn't care about winning at all...I have spent all these years defending him and some of you were right. He just wants to out up points and make fancy plays. Long offseason at the beach.

Psytic · 07-13-2022, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by blankall

Whoever that person is...better be pretty F-ing important to the organization. Because the Flames just lost their star player to....Columbus. If Gaudreau said him or me, the organization should have taken a long look at letting whoever it was go.

Maybe it’s Murray Edward’s. Found it weird there was a rumour he called him.

dino7c · 07-13-2022, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

Calgary is better.

No kidding was that a joke? 111 points

Beatle17 · 07-13-2022, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 442scotty

Maybe he didn’t like Treliving… Tired of being lowballed… feeling disrespected by the low initial offer… who knows

When was he lowballed?

tureksyndrome · 07-13-2022, 08:14 PM

No one will convince me this is was “family decision”

Displaced Flames fan · 07-13-2022, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Something that stood out to me about the picture at Monahan's wedding was the absence of certain high-profile player. Are we experiencing another Fleury-like situation where his personality is divisive and driving players away? It would suck if it came down to a him versus me scenario and the team picked the wrong guy.

Or maybe he was just in Greece with his own family?

2macinnis2 · 07-13-2022, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cdnsir

Only read through 10 pages so far. What is everybody up in arms about? It's down to three things.

1. He doesn't want to be here
2. Why wouldn't you hold out till the last minute when you're in the position to do so? You would do the same when negotiating
3. Writing was on the wall when Tre couldn't get him re-signed last off season. But what else can Tre do when it was clear the team would make the playoffs by Christmas time? No way would you trade your star player when you have a chance at the cup.

Finally we know Columbus is not a world class city, but is Calgary that much better?

Covered this in another thread but as someone who has visited both cities but lived in neither, YES, Calgary is MUCH better.

CalgaryFan1988 · 07-13-2022, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

The guy doesn't care about winning at all...I have spent all these years defending him and some of you were right. He just wants to out up points and make fancy plays. Long offseason at the beach.

If he didn't care about winning, wouldn't he have shot wide in game 7 OT?

Some of you guys are pathetic.

dino7c · 07-13-2022, 08:17 PM

Missed the playoffs by 20 points

Gaudreau "sounds great"

Cleveland Steam Whistle · 07-13-2022, 08:17 PM

Serious question. Is Columbus where Glee is / was?

2macinnis2 · 07-13-2022, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

Missed the playoffs by 20 points

Gaudreau "sounds great"

Yup. Found out about the hockey player definitively. We know he’s got great skill. But he’s a loser.

dino7c · 07-13-2022, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

If he didn't care about winning, wouldn't he have shot wide in game 7 OT?

Some of you guys are pathetic.

Okay it's obviously not a major concern of his...he shot wide plenty of times in his playoff career...might never see them again though.

He joined a terrible team in the best division for less money. Winning is not high on his list...no pressure is.

Geeoff · 07-13-2022, 08:18 PM

If he turned down Jersey and went with Columbus, it's simply because he wants to be out of the spotlight with no expectations. I can respect that...but also he is dead to me LOL

GioforPM · 07-13-2022, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

If he didn't care about winning, wouldn't he have shot wide in game 7 OT?

Some of you guys are pathetic.

What about game 5 in the next series?

Azure · 07-13-2022, 08:20 PM

Lets summarize.

He citied family reasons for not staying.
The closest city to where his family is was in Philly. Philly didn't have the cap space to sign him.
The next closest is New Jersey, who had the cap space.
New Jersey also has a brighter future.

Instead, his camp reaches out to Columbus and basically tells them he wants to play there. Columbus has basically done nothing in 20 years as a hockey organization, so there are no expectations, nothing. Outside of Arizona, is there another team that has been so mediocre for that long?

All in all, my best guess is he does not care about winning, can't stand the pressure of winning, and wanted to go to a destination where he could do just that.

And he was willing to forgo $18 million to do that.

His decision, but I can't imagine his teammates, other teams, the NHL, NHLPA, the Flames, GMs around the league and other player agents are looking at that situation and thinking he made a smart move.

You don't go to UFA to leave $18 million on the table. Yes, you sign for less sometimes, and sometimes you want to play in certain cities. But if you are a top player, you command top money & you can pick where you want to play. That is the point of being a UFA.

Hard to see all of this as anything other than a complete disaster for the Johnny side of things. And as complete disasters usually go, they tend to follow you along for the rest of your career.

topfiverecords · 07-13-2022, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyB

The Flames have tweeted their thanks to Gaudreau and at least Katie Gaudreau has responded.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1547392228330536964

… apart …

You’re welcome for the CBA UFA rules.

MrMike · 07-13-2022, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

If he didn't care about winning, wouldn't he have shot wide in game 7 OT?

Some of you guys are pathetic.

Well come on, if winning was important he wouldn’t sign with Columbus. That’s a given.

Atodaso · 07-13-2022, 08:21 PM

Not in Canada, check

Closer to home, check

Low pressure market, check

Easier travel, check

While Columbus isn't the most desirable destination, it checks a lot of boxes Calgary does not.

I'm still directing most of my disdain for this on management. Even if Treliving was "duped", he should have had a better Plan B than what's happened this far. He looked rattled in the presser as if he was blindsided. This was always a possibility.

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2macinnis2 · 07-13-2022, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

If he didn't care about winning, wouldn't he have shot wide in game 7 OT?

Some of you guys are pathetic.

I’m sure he likes winning. Who doesn’t? He just doesn’t like the focus, attention or expectations that come along with trying to be great.

CalgaryFan1988 · 07-13-2022, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

What about game 5 in the next series?

Is this a serious question? So, he cares about winning some nights and other times he doesn't? Is that the argument now?

Dino claims Gaudreau wants long summers. If that was the case, wouldn't he have just dumped it in the corner against Dallas and went for a line change?