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Old 08-18-2021, 12:07 PM   #801
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Sure, the Vaccine and Autism connection has been debated over the years. But of course you didn't touch on anything else I've mentioned. Let me ask you this...does the majority of people have an over 99% chance of beating Covid? and are fetus cells used in vaccines? Waiting to here from you of course since you're so credible not to mention those things in your response.
The (rare) use of human cells in the development of a small number of vaccines is common knowledge: https://www.historyofvaccines.org/co...ne-development.

I don't know if you are a parent or not, but do you believe that the use of human cells (from a fetus aborted by maternal choice 40 years ago) would morally compel you to not give your child the rubella (German measles) vaccine? If so, why?
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Sure, the Vaccine and Autism connection has been debated over the years.
No it hasn't been "debated".

There is no link.

There was a falsified "study" but there is no link.

Perhaps you can provide a link to the study that connects Autism and Vaccine usage.


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Sure, the Vaccine and Autism connection has been debated over the years. But of course you didn't touch on anything else I've mentioned. Let me ask you this...does the majority of people have an over 99% chance of beating Covid? and are fetus cells used in vaccines? Waiting to here from you of course since you're so credible not to mention those things in your response.
No, not by reasonable people, it hasn't.
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It's definitely not worth your time to respond to the other things I've mentioned because fact is we have over a 99% chance of beating Covid and fetus cells are used in vaccines. Keep getting those booster tho shots bud.
Have you had any other vaccine grown in a fetal cell? Or are you completely unvaccinated?
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Where do you draw the line? Do you find the continued use of HELA cells in medical testing to be abhorrent as well? Why or why not?
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https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/yo...ed-fetal-cells

https://www.chop.edu/centers-program.../fetal-tissues

Here are some interesting resources about vaccines and fetal tissue. It's not like pieces of an aborted child are in the vaccine (can't believe I had to type that out but I am thinking you may believe that.)
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Sure, the Vaccine and Autism connection has been debated over the years. But of course you didn't touch on anything else I've mentioned. Let me ask you this...does the majority of people have an over 99% chance of beating Covid? and are fetus cells used in vaccines? Waiting to here from you of course since you're so credible not to mention those things in your response.
You seem to be pretty firm in your assertions.

Healthcare personnel are being pummeled by Covid, primarily, actually directly as a result of the great majority of incoming Covid patients being unvaccinated.

Quick question?

How would you feel about NOT admitting those patients who denied their opportunity to be vaccinated?
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Sure, the Vaccine and Autism connection has been debated over the years. But of course you didn't touch on anything else I've mentioned. Let me ask you this...does the majority of people have an over 99% chance of beating Covid? and are fetus cells used in vaccines? Waiting to here from you of course since you're so credible not to mention those things in your response.
First, the majority of what people? Canadians? In Canada the CFR has varied between a high of 9% and a low of below 1%. Second, what is “beating” COVID? Just surviving? Or having no long term effects?

Fetal cells? No. None of the COVID vaccines use fetal cells.

Some vaccines in history have been created using fetal cell lines. Fetal cell lines are cells that grow in a laboratory and descend from cells taken from elective abortions in the 1970s and 1980s. Those individual cells from the 1970s and 1980s have since multiplied into many new cells over the past four or five decades, creating fetal cell lines. Current fetal cell lines are thousands of generations removed from the original fetal tissue. They do not contain any tissue from a fetus.

BUT Neither Moderna nor Pfizer use fetal cell lines (much less fetal cells). J&J uses fetal cell lines from a 1985 abortion.
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It's definitely not worth your time to respond to the other things I've mentioned because fact is we have over a 99% chance of beating Covid and fetus cells are used in vaccines. Keep getting those booster tho shots bud.
Neither of the things you say are true.
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“Did my own research”

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Narrator: As research is related to peer reviewed science literature, they in fact did no research.
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"'Found like minded individuals to corroborate bat##### ideas"
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That’s the one. Engrave it.
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No it hasn't been "debated".

There is no link.

There was a falsified "study" but there is no link.

Perhaps you can provide a link to the study that connects Autism and Vaccine usage.


I mean sweet ####ing Jesue, this #### pisses me off, it is dangerous and stupid to say such things
It's been debated over the years and a quick google search of "Vaccine linked to Autism" will provide thousands of websites with information on this. If there was no debate, then nothing would come up when searching right? Maybe a video will help you better.

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It's been debated over the years and a quick google search of "Vaccine linked to Autism" will provide thousands of websites with information on this. If there was no debate, then nothing would come up when searching right? Maybe a video will help you better.

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/co...s-cause-autism

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Most scientific and medical experts are satisfied that no connection exists between vaccines and autism and other neurodevelopmental disorders. Still, critics continue to question the issue. Not only do they question the relationship between MMR and thimerosal and autism, they bring up further culprits they believe might play a role in development of autism. Researchers continue to examine these questions, but there is no evidence that these factors play a role in autism development. Most autism researchers hold that the causes of autism are many and include genetic and environmental factors, but do not involve vaccines
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For ####'s sake, take your bull#### elsewhere.
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First, the majority of what people? Canadians? In Canada the CFR has varied between a high of 9% and a low of below 1%. Second, what is “beating” COVID? Just surviving? Or having no long term effects?

Fetal cells? No. None of the COVID vaccines use fetal cells.

Some vaccines in history have been created using fetal cell lines. Fetal cell lines are cells that grow in a laboratory and descend from cells taken from elective abortions in the 1970s and 1980s. Those individual cells from the 1970s and 1980s have since multiplied into many new cells over the past four or five decades, creating fetal cell lines. Current fetal cell lines are thousands of generations removed from the original fetal tissue. They do not contain any tissue from a fetus.

BUT Neither Moderna nor Pfizer use fetal cell lines (much less fetal cells). J&J uses fetal cell lines from a 1985 abortion.

"However, Pfizer and Moderna did perform confirmation tests (to ensure the vaccines work) using fetal cell lines. And Johnson & Johnson uses fetal cell lines in vaccine development, confirmation and production."
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/yo...ed-fetal-cells

Riiiiight!
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It's definitely not worth your time to respond to the other things I've mentioned because fact is we have over a 99% chance of beating Covid and fetus cells are used in vaccines. Keep getting those booster tho shots bud.
99% chance of beating Covid = 370,000 dead Canadians.

A .5-1% chance of death is really high risk compared to anything else you do.

It also means that you believe the life time risk in Covid vaccines will cause more than .5%-1% deaths.
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https://kidshealth.org/en/parents/autism-studies.html

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Vaccines do not cause autism. There is no scientific evidence of a link between vaccines and autism.
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"However, Pfizer and Moderna did perform confirmation tests (to ensure the vaccines work) using fetal cell lines. And Johnson & Johnson uses fetal cell lines in vaccine development, confirmation and production."
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/yo...ed-fetal-cells

Riiiiight!
Absolute clown show. Fetal cell lines are not the same as fetal cells/tissue. Use your brain.

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No, the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines do not contain any aborted fetal cells. Fetal cell lines are not the same as fetal tissue. Fetal cell lines are cells that grow in a laboratory.
https://www.icsi.org/covid-19-vaccin...h-fetal-cells/

"If more people knew about fetal cell lines, they wouldn't take the COVID vaccines!"

Well, if we didn't use fetal cell lines in development, corroboration, or production, vaccine treatments for the following wouldn't exist or be anywhere close:

- Polio
- Measles/Mumps/Rubella
- Chickenpox
- Hepatitis A
- Hepatitis B
- Rabies
- Rheumatoid Arthritis
- Sepsis
- Adenovirus
- Smallpox
- HIV/AIDS
- Ebola

We'd also be well behind in research regarding diabetes, other infectious diseases, diseases and conditions that affect current (living) fetuses we attempt to save, etc.

Fetal cell lines have saved and improved the lives of 100s of millions of people. How many dead people do you want to see? How many children with diseases that become life altering? Is that the goal? Does it feel righteous to rail against something you don't understand when the alternative for millions of people would have been death?

People who suggest we shouldn't use vaccines or other treatments that rely on fetal cell lines at some stage of research and development are immoral people who would rather sentence others and their children to death or a lifetime of hardship. I have no time for it. And the notion that these COVID vaccines contain actual fetal tissue is just the idiotic icing on the cake.
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https://www.autismspeaks.org/what-causes-autism

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Vaccines. Each family has a unique experience with an autism diagnosis, and for some it corresponds with the timing of their child’s vaccinations. At the same time, scientists have conducted extensive research over the last two decades to determine whether there is any link between childhood vaccinations and autism. The results of this research is clear: Vaccines do not cause autism.
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